HLPAG: Please tell your stories and share what you think about them.

[426HemiCharger]

Well as another member said "we are all familiar with HLPAG". I wanted to see how bad it really is.  I have a personal story about them, and anyone who posts here is welcome to share a story if they have one.

Here's my story:

No Better than HLPAG, huh?

Well I think you are right, sad to say.  I bought my Charger R/T from them in mid September, and I was promised "AS IS" condition from when I saw it in June.  This meant I would get the car plus the trunk full of parts that I saw.  In the trunk was a G33 Mirror, S79 Steering Wheel, incorrect intake manifold (I was told was the correct one by Hans, himself), and the creme de la creme of parts a rare and pristine Cragar S/S wheel, the day on delivery came and the only thing in there was the "Correct" manifold.  They lied about the other parts and told me the S/S wheel was "cracked" (sure... I'd believe that the day they sold me the car with a running engine and with the taillights I saw on the back on the car.) Yes the engine was seized, yes they also stole the taillights, they replaced them with two broken taillights, one 69 & one 70.     

[jb666]

Do you have any pictures you can post?

[426HemiCharger]

Well see for yourself these are the pic they took

1. the (seized) engine

2. The interior with bondo floor pans

3. The exterior

[ChargerSG]

How long/many years can they go on, that nothing bad happend to them is unbeliveable considering the rip off on many peolpe...

[mikepmcs]

Here is a comprehensive thread already started by Tony Silva with pictures that would be somewhat closely related to Jeff's thread.
Mods, is a suggestion to merge 426hemicharger's with airbornesilva's out of line here?

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,3692.0.html

Also, there are quite a bit more threads on Luedtke Performance Auto Group on this site already as well. 

another one just for an example

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,18332.0.html

v/r
Mike

[nitrousn]

Well as another member said "we are all familiar with HLPAG. I wanted to see how bad it really is.  I have a personal story about them, and anyone who posts here is welcome to share a story if they have one.

Here's my story:

No Better than HLPAG, huh?

Well I think you are right, sad to say.  I bought my Charger R/T from them in mid September, and I was promised "AS IS" condition from when I saw it in June.  This meant I would get the car plus the trunk full of parts that I saw.  In the trunk was a G33 Mirror, S79 Steering Wheel, incorrect intake manifold (I was told was the correct one by Hans, himself), and the creme de la creme of parts a rare and pristine Cragar S/S wheel, the day on delivery came and the only thing in there was the "Correct" manifold.  They lied about the other parts and told me the S/S wheel was "cracked" (sure... I'd believe that the day they sold me the car with a running engine and with the taillights I saw on the back on the car.) Yes the engine was seized, yes they also stole the taillights, they replaced them with two broken taillights, one 69 & one 70.     

And you expected better of them.  Every mopar web site has not a good thing to say about those clowns. Buyer be very beware.

[jb666]

Bad info on HLPAG is NOT hard to come by. I mentioned the name here months ago and here's the result:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,47733.0.html

I was talking with Hans during the summer of 08 and the wife was on her computer across the room.. She says "Ummm, I think you should come read this stuff", and the rest is history.. I found BK  . Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

[426HemiCharger]

  well now I know about HLPAG and BK Auto,  so I just wish I could have done my research before I bought my Charger from them.  I talked with Hans, he sure is a con-artist, he actually befriended me then ripped me off a trunk load of goodies, plus an awesome Cragar S/S wheel.

[jb666]

well now I know about HLPAG and BK Auto,  so I just wish I could have done my research before I bought my Charger from them.  I talked with Hans, he sure is a con-artist, he actually befriended me then ripped me off a trunk load of goodies, plus an awesome Cragar S/S wheel.

Oh, Hans is quite the talker... Ask ANY questions and he's got the "right" answers for you!!

[skip68]

The best thing you can do is to use their own words against them.  Do you have a contract, bill of sale, agreement, written description, sale ad of the car, ? ? ? ? ? ?   You "MUST" show proof of them being dishonest.  For them to sell bondo buckets and telling you it's an easy fixer is not a crime, it's for you to do the homework on what it takes to build these cars.   YOU MUST get it in writting the details of what they are selling.      Post your paperwork and pictures showing them at fault.   Black all of your personal info out.       Chuck...........

[skip68]

AS IS condition means they don't have to do anything.  Buyer beware.  Everything MUST BE IN WRITTING.  I don't see a problem here.     Sorry..........

[charger01]

I was actually browsing their site a few years ago when I was looking for a General Lee replica.  They had one that looked really good in the pics and the ad said it was totally restored and ready to go.  You could tell by the pic that the speedometer cable under the car was just hanging there.  I actually called and spoke with Hans.  I inquired about a few things including if the guages all worked.  He told me they did not, but none do in these old cars.  Those two little things shyed me away from HLPAG.  If the car is listed as totally restored yet you tell me the guages dont work.  What else could be wrong with it?  I began shopping elsewhere.  Glad I did.

[426HemiCharger]

I was suckered in by: "Easy to do Garage Resto" and from the pics all I would have expected was a bumper straightening and a mirror.   Instead I get stuck with a car that does not run, had no trunk, neither of which was told to me.  The car was seen by my father and me and were told "what you see is what you get". I was promised a spare tire to "replace" the Cragar wheel, and was given a POS wheel that doesn't even go to a Charger.


AS IS was when I the trunk was full of parts!!!!!!

[joflaig]

They are only about an hour from me. When I fond their site back in early 2007 I sent them an email. This was their response:

"thanks for taking the time to write to us! with what you are looking to spend ad what youare looking to get is something very doable! every car is different. in that some cars require different things and come from different places. all of the cars you see on our main website   WWW.HLPAG.COM  we build them with the focus that you can jump in and drive them. we go through the whole mechanicals and replace what needs to be replaced. the drivetrain as well. if on a certain car we know of the history of the drivetrain we will go ahead and state it in the ad. but we make sure that you will have a nice healthy drive train that doesn't smoke, tick or knock or is on it's last limb! the bodies go back to bare metal and then we go from there. any body panel with rust gets cut out and replaced. we install tons of new parts depending again on what the car would need! the way we work is this: you tell us to jump and we are gonna ask how high! we can do as little or as much as you would want on it. so we can build you exactly what you want! i hope that this helps. if you have any other ?'s please feel free to email or give me a calll thanks  OSCAR........."

I quicly discovered on the internet not to do business with them. I still got screwed by someone else, but it's another story.

[426HemiCharger]

I talked to Oscar in 2006 and he said the same thing, just in person, what do you think about them?

[jb666]

I talked to Oscar in 2006 and he said the same thing, just in person, what do you think about them?

Hold on.. You said in another thread you were 6 years from legal drinking age right now, making you 15.. You were talking to HLPAG when you were 12?? WOW man, you knew you wanted a Charger early, huh?!?!

[69bronzeT5]

I once sent HLPAG a prank email

[joflaig]

I talked to Oscar in 2006 and he said the same thing, just in person, what do you think about them?

What do I think about them? I think it's not worth the time in prison for doing what I think.

[jb666]

Hans sent me this in September of 2008. He was all excited that someone was there filming them in their shop for a spot on Hotrod TV  



Check out who he says he built it for  

Hi Jeff this was a 472 cid new Hemi THING WAS CRAZY FAST!!!!
all I can say is a base 426 is good to have fun!!!! This 472 took AV gas and was just a race car the car in the pic is a car I build for Chrysler Corp.
it was crazy!!!!!!!!! thanks Hans

[426HemiCharger]

That's right, I was 12 and I have loved Chargers as far back as I can remember seeing the Dukes, seeing other musclecars, and going to a swap meet.

[426HemiCharger]

That is a beautiful Charger... definately not the work of HLPAG or their shop. Their shop is a one car wide extra long garage with an illegal alien hunched over the engine bay of a poor defensless Charger.

[jb666]

This one's funny.. And a huge red flag.. Painted trim, sitting on it's rotors, didn't remove the bumpers/mirrors, and the list goes on...

[426HemiCharger]

  WOW!!! So that's why my car has F3 paint under the window mouldings.    it out for

[jb666]

Yeah, then the next day the trim magically reappeared as chrome..


And then the finished & polished turd...

[426HemiCharger]

Painting philosophy tip 12: If it comes off, you should take it off before painting.