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real 1970 daytona for sale

Started by BigBlockSam, January 22, 2009, 05:13:01 PM

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superbirdtom

so this daytonamellon is the real deal??

Ghoste

No.  It is the car that MCG mentions as having been built in Detroit and belonging to someone with access to the property but that is all.

69bronzeT5

IMO, it has to be worth a pretty penny. The dealership made it into a Daytona when it was new. It's not like it's a current day clone or anything.
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Ghoste

It's an old clone and means nothing more to me.  But I don't have 300k to waste either so.  :shruggy: :Twocents:

Dodge Don

Quote from: teamroth on January 27, 2009, 11:09:14 PM
plain and simple without the plug it's just a really unique daytona CLONE no?

Then the case can be made that Mr. Norm cars should have no additional value.

69_500

Quote from: Dodge Don on January 28, 2009, 08:33:17 AM
Quote from: teamroth on January 27, 2009, 11:09:14 PM
plain and simple without the plug it's just a really unique daytona CLONE no?

Then the case can be made that Mr. Norm cars should have no additional value.

And in most cases personally I think that they shouldn't. Now some cars that Mr. Norms did should have some additional value, but then you see people trying to make tons more on say a 69 383 RR that was sold at Mr. Norms. Nothing done to the car, just sold there. To me, who cares. Now if your talking about a GTS Dart, or something along those lines then yes they should have some more value. It was a dealer modified car for a purpose. Which is how I see the Purple car as well.

Aero426

Quote from: Dodge Don on January 28, 2009, 08:33:17 AM
Quote from: teamroth on January 27, 2009, 11:09:14 PM
plain and simple without the plug it's just a really unique daytona CLONE no?

Then the case can be made that Mr. Norm cars should have no additional value.

The difference is that particular cars modified and sold by Mr. Norm came from a dealer with some name recognition back then.  Same for Nickey, Yenko, Baldwin, etc.   Those unique cars have enhanced value.  But the name "Parsons Dodge" does not exactly go down in the annals of musclecar history.    

Now the purple car does have some decent value.   Is it worth 250k?     Is it above the value of a real '69 Daytona?     So far, buyers have not voted "yes" with their wallets.    

69_500

I will say that in todays times the car isn't worth more than say a 69 Daytona. However wasn't it sold for more than a HEMI Daytona the last time it actually changed hands? I mean wasn't it something like $10K back in 1977 when a HEMI Daytona was probably going at the same time for what $7,500?

maxwellwedge

Mister Norm's cars mostly get a few more bucks because they usually have the full dealership paperwork. The Yenko keeper of the paper will sell you just a photo-copy only for $5000.00  :o

Of course 440 Darts and any other GSS variants are rare, cool and fetch bigger money. And Norm was kinda the "Yenko" of Mopars....anyone else even come close? Don't think so.

Sell the nose and wing - 40k

A nice (not original survivor) 6 Pack 70 Charger - 65k    Total value  $105k    Less '70 Charger front end to purchase and holes in quarters repaired (-10k)    Grand total $95k    Putting an end to all this crap   ........  Priceless  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol:

69_500

I would think that a 6 pac, RT/SE sunroof car in a high impact color might fetch $100K on its own though.

As far as the Mr. Norms things go of the few Mr. Norms aero cars I notice they do seem to have quite a bit of paperwork. Especially the one 500 I looked at that came from there. STACKS of paperwork.

nascarxx29

My friend with the sitting blue AC 69 500 in his yard. Just to name a few of 30 cars he bought back in the day .Has the exact 70 RT FC7 Super track pac car AM 8 track etc .But doesnt have the sunroof .Wouldnt take $100.000 for it
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

moparstuart

man i hope wings and noses are not going for 40 k

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

maxwellwedge

During the peak it may have fetched more than that but these are different times. I can buy, right now, a fantastic original paint survivor '69 Charger R/T, Black with saddle, sunroof, loaded, loaded car for 65k. Maybe I should  :scratchchin:

maxwellwedge

Quote from: moparstuart on January 28, 2009, 09:58:18 AM
man i hope wings and noses are not going for 40 k


A friend bought the NOS nose from Great Lakes for just under 40k and I sold a used wing for 7k.

69_500

I agree the market isn't what it was even a year ago, let alone what it was 2 years ago.

Original paint R/T with a sunroof, would be a very nice looking ride. Just don't tell Ed Cook as he loves X9 cars JK. I think he is more into the 500's and A12 cars anyways.

moparstuart

Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 28, 2009, 10:03:27 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on January 28, 2009, 09:58:18 AM
man i hope wings and noses are not going for 40 k


A friend bought the NOS nose from Great Lakes for just under 40k and I sold a used wing for 7k.
WOW  I think you must have had just the right customer   :Twocents:  still see  daytona wings for 3k-4k 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

maxwellwedge

Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 28, 2009, 10:01:25 AM
During the peak it may have fetched more than that but these are different times. I can buy, right now, a fantastic original paint survivor '69 Charger R/T, Black with saddle, sunroof, loaded, loaded car for 65k. Maybe I should  :scratchchin:

nascarxx29

Here is a wing if its still around $2000.00  Daytona Wing for Sale
« on: November 16, 2008, 07:11:08 PM » 

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Used Daytona wing for sale. Uprights are black and wing is unfinished aluminum. Drivers side upright has some damage to the lower portion where it would meet the top of the quarter. Asking $2000 obo. PM me or Call Bob 607-772-6945. Thanks!
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Dodge Don

Quote from: DougSchellinger on January 28, 2009, 09:20:26 AM
Quote from: Dodge Don on January 28, 2009, 08:33:17 AM
Quote from: teamroth on January 27, 2009, 11:09:14 PM
plain and simple without the plug it's just a really unique daytona CLONE no?

Then the case can be made that Mr. Norm cars should have no additional value.

The difference is that particular cars modified and sold by Mr. Norm came from a dealer with some name recognition back then.  Same for Nickey, Yenko, Baldwin, etc.   Those unique cars have enhanced value.  But the name "Parsons Dodge" does not exactly go down in the annals of musclecar history.    

Now the purple car does have some decent value.   Is it worth 250k?     Is it above the value of a real '69 Daytona?     So far, buyers have not voted "yes" with their wallets.    

Doug I was being facetious. I believe a Mr Norm "special" is worth more.

On this 70, I do not for a second believe it is a factory car but I do believe it is a dealer conversion prior to customer delivery. Given that, and taking into consideration the car itself (options...shape) and the notoriety the car has (museum, press, documentation...etc etc) I believe the car, to a collector, is worth more than a real regular average run of the mill 440 Daytona. Is it worth more than a real Hemi Daytona...I wouldn't think so. If I had millions to to enjoy my hobby I'd buy that car in a heartbeat. And I'd buy a 69 Hemi Daytona, and a 70 Hemi Charger R/T SE and a 71 Hemi Charger R/T and and and and.....I think I need to win the lottery (too bad I never play them).

69_500

Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 28, 2009, 10:09:15 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 28, 2009, 10:01:25 AM
During the peak it may have fetched more than that but these are different times. I can buy, right now, a fantastic original paint survivor '69 Charger R/T, Black with saddle, sunroof, loaded, loaded car for 65k. Maybe I should  :scratchchin:


Very nice looking car.
I'd give up my 500 for that car in heartbeat. Man I'm too eager to kick my car to the curb sometimes. But that is a nice looking ride, and RT/SE too boot. What was there 29 RT/SE with factory sunroofs?

tan top

Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 28, 2009, 10:09:15 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 28, 2009, 10:01:25 AM
During the peak it may have fetched more than that but these are different times. I can buy, right now, a fantastic original paint survivor '69 Charger R/T, Black with saddle, sunroof, loaded, loaded car for 65k. Maybe I should  :scratchchin:


:drool5:  ..... nice looking charger :yesnod:  any pictures of the fender tag  :popcrn: ..........
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Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 28, 2009, 10:09:15 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 28, 2009, 10:01:25 AM
During the peak it may have fetched more than that but these are different times. I can buy, right now, a fantastic original paint survivor '69 Charger R/T, Black with saddle, sunroof, loaded, loaded car for 65k. Maybe I should  :scratchchin:

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Tan Top, Sunroof, Passenger Mirror, AND Stripe Delete!
Those are my favorite options, and that car is AMAZING!! :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:

Beep Beep Dave

This car always makes for interesting conversation.
To me I first remember seeing it in magazines as a High Schooler back around 1985'ish. I thought it was cool then and it still passes the test of time as I still really like it today.
In fact the one car I would want to build for myself one day would be a '70 Sunroof Daytona Clone, although it wouldn't be purple.

Does anyone know who the present owner is? Did Jerry actually sell the car when he was liquidating his collection? If so what did it change hands for. I remember seeing it for sale on HemiNet for $250k but that has to be at least 7 years ago now. 

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Aero426

The auction listing says "Hays Kansas",  so I assume Jerry has never sold it.

nascarxx29

Your right Dave it was for sale at $250K .I got to wonder why this 1 of 1 rare 70 daytona.Never went to a high end auction like Barrett Jackson or some others. When the cars were bringing alot money.Up till now things have changed seems like a bad time in the car market and the economy to try at this time for that price .Could it be that it wouldnt have sold or got any where near its asking price of $250.000 due to the MCG and other related 70 daytona facts and fiction.And the bar set  by exposing it there .Wouldnt allow you to get that price after the auction results. As it didnt get enough bids and the collectors were hesitant of it as a investment
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701