real 1970 daytona for sale

[maxwellwedge]

there are stories of Daytona nose cones and other parts being run over by bulldozers at the direction of Chrysler. 

Funny - Fred McNally told me years ago that he saw or someone he knows have seen this actually happen...Oh the humanity!  

[Aero426]

I think it was Terry Nichels who said they had stuff in a second story loft, and tossed it outside where the dozers awaited.

[hemigeno]

I dug through a little bit of paperwork and did not find anything beyond a June 19, 1969 Memo instructing B.L. Schram as follows:

"Please arrange to procure and ship to Nichels Engineering the following items from Group Release E518 and E598:"

It goes on to list a lot of the individual Daytona parts/assemblies, including more than a few component parts which were never sold separately that I know of (e.g. the individual sheet metal pieces which make up the nosecone shell).   A lot of those component part numbers were initially intended to have a stockpile of 25 or so, but were later lined off - indicating they were never ordered.  This one does show 50 full nosecone assemblies were ordered, and 25 of each rear wing component.  I have two different copies of this same document, and both show pretty much the same component part eliminations.

Wonder if the nosecones and other parts that hadn't sold yet were just trashed rather than ship them to Petty?  In any event, it makes us all cringe today even to think of such.

[Aero426]

Pure speculation, but I'd assume it was cost effective for Chrysler to write the parts off, versus shipping them to Petty.   Plus they were essentially obsolete for NASCAR in 1971.   Nichels apparently was allowed to retain some pieces to take care of their own cars, which they used up through 1972.   The stuff that came out of there in the late '70s was virtually ALL Superbird.   Lots of fenders, lots of grille frames, some rear plugs and wings.   During this same time, when Terry Nichels recycled the #30 Marcis car back into a Daytona, the owner had to get a nose from Don White.   That was the only one available.

[Daytona Guy]

I I personally owned a 70 RT that had an original 69 Daytona wing on it that was ordered and delivered with the wing.

I see what you mean. I meant that both the wing and the car were delvered from Chrysler.

[Aero426]

I see what you mean. I meant that both the wing and the car were delvered from Chrysler.

"Delivered from Chrysler" = how it came from the assembly plant (no wing)
"As delivered from the dealer" = wing installed at buyers request

[Aero426]

so whats the difference in Creative making the piece and putting it on, or a dealership buying the piece from Creative and putting it on?

About $50,000.

[Ghoste]

And a vin "X".

[FJMG]

   Actually I think one other vehicle had the second "X"; 68 Fury III and, if I am not mistaken the 69 version even had "X29". I don't know if there was actually a diff. in roofline from the regular Fury III.

[petercharger]

wow wow wow......in today's economy and getting a sweet 69 daytona for that kind of money...wow wow wow

[sound5262]

kind of confused, is there such a thing as a 70 daytona?

[moparstuart]

kind of confused, is there such a thing as a 70 daytona?

no sir there is not 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

kind of confused, is there such a thing as a 70 daytona?

The short answer is NO!...

The long answer is that at least one 1970 Charger R/T was "converted" using the readily available Daytona spare parts by a dealership... possibly before delivery to the original owner.  It would be similar to a current dealership converting one of the new Challenger R/Ts to a Challenger T/A using the available hood and stripe kits... is it a 2009 Challenger T/A then?  

XS

[sound5262]

did ya'll see what this is bringing on ebay?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

did ya'll see what this is bringing on ebay?

$200K+... I guess I need to take my new Challenger back to the dealer for immediate conversion to the ultra-rare 2009 Challenger SRT/A! 

XS

[Aero426]

did ya'll see what this is bringing on ebay?

It's possible (very likely) that there is no real money on the car.   It still has not met reserve.   Keep in mind the ebay listing is free for the seller for the first four cars.    It's just a way to generate exposure. 

[moparstuart]

did ya'll see what this is bringing on ebay?

$200K+... I guess I need to take my new Challenger back to the dealer for immediate conversion to the ultra-rare 2009 Challenger SRT/A! 

XS

200k   all I can say is Wow

[gasoline_24]

I think the reserve last time was around $250 or $300

[TUFCAT]

I think the reserve last time was around $250 or $300

It was a cool quarter million.

[Dodge Don]

I think it will worth more because of the infamy and the press/exposure it has gotten. The car is a legend.

For example, for some reason the BarrelCuda is worth more because it sat up on a bunch of barrels and became infamous on Cars in barns. 

[maxwellwedge]

But both remain unsold...

[maxwellwedge]

did ya'll see what this is bringing on ebay?

It's possible (very likely) that there is no real money on the car.   It still has not met reserve.   Keep in mind the ebay listing is free for the seller for the first four cars.    It's just a way to generate exposure. 

JJ schilling.......Nah   

[petercharger]

happened to have the Mopar collectors guide of sept 2002 and it stated  '70 daytonas..fact or fiction?  the last pictures statements say's  There is no evidence to support the claim that any 1970 charger daytonas were factory built or authorised.  So after months of investigation, and the help of such fantastic winged car enthusiasts as Jim RAdke, Joe and Sean Machado, Greg Kwiatkowski, Galen Govier, Ken Noffsinger, Frank Badalson, Steven Juliano, and the Invaluable information supplied by Bob McCurry and Andy Agosta, I am convinced, ,the theory of the 1970 charger Datyona is an urban legend. The truth is  there was at least one dealership assembled car,a nd one car built by a custom shop in Detroit for an Unknown person who worked at Hamtramck. Tut that's it. If anyone knows of any other dealer assembled winged cars or has any other information on these cars, please contact us immediately and we will pass the data along..by Randy Holden Photos by Greg Kwiatkoski and Jerry Jeumeman.  that is what the last section said...like I said Wow  Wow Wow..

[teamroth]

plain and simple without the plug it's just a really unique daytona CLONE no?

[nascarxx29]

This ones pedigree is that its on Chryslers grounds and its A Chrysler picture of the 70 Watermelon Daytona
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/1970_DAYTONA_GREEN_07.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/Annie75414/1970_DAYTONA_GREEN_05.jpg