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Hudson River Plane Crash...

Started by 72chargerSE, January 15, 2009, 08:55:30 PM

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CB

Quote from: bull on January 17, 2009, 02:48:50 AM
Quote from: skip68 on January 16, 2009, 11:46:08 PM
God, I hope there were no animals in the cargo area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( I have not seen anything on the news regarding the cargo.   :shruggy: Anybody??????  :shruggy:  If there were,................... :angelwing: :angelwing: :angelwing: to animal heaven!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  :yesnod: :yesnod: :2thumbs:

Mrs.Skip68 ;)

Well, there's at least two dead geese that I know of...

:slap: funny dude  :lol:
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WingCharger

Quote from: tan top on January 16, 2009, 07:19:24 PM
the pilot  done a awesome job on flying that thing  :yesnod:  ....
He was a fighter pilot so.... id say he was qualified. :2thumbs:

There is already talk about making this into a movie!

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bigred68

Quote from: bull on January 17, 2009, 02:48:50 AM
Quote from: skip68 on January 16, 2009, 11:46:08 PM
God, I hope there were no animals in the cargo area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( I have not seen anything on the news regarding the cargo.   :shruggy: Anybody??????  :shruggy:  If there were,................... :angelwing: :angelwing: :angelwing: to animal heaven!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  :yesnod: :yesnod: :2thumbs:

Mrs.Skip68 ;)

Well, there's at least two dead geese that I know of...
I wonder... what was the last thing to go through the geese's minds? :moon:

Tilar

Quote from: mikepmcs on January 17, 2009, 07:40:06 PM
:2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Live footage!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=11588017&src=news
There are some good videos on that site.

Quote from: bigred68 on January 17, 2009, 10:53:00 PM
Quote from: bull on January 17, 2009, 02:48:50 AM
Quote from: skip68 on January 16, 2009, 11:46:08 PM
God, I hope there were no animals in the cargo area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( I have not seen anything on the news regarding the cargo.   :shruggy: Anybody??????  :shruggy:  If there were,................... :angelwing: :angelwing: :angelwing: to animal heaven!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(  :yesnod: :yesnod: :2thumbs:

Mrs.Skip68 ;)

Well, there's at least two dead geese that I know of...
I wonder... what was the last thing to go through the geese's minds? :moon:

:smilielol:
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The movie would last about 10 minutes.  :slap:
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dkn1997

Quote from: bigred68 on January 17, 2009, 10:53:00 PM

I wonder... what was the last thing to go through the geese's minds? :moon:

titanium and jet fuel?
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"In the unlikely event of a water landing..." 

I was watching the news from a cruise ship in St Maarten, and had to get on a plane the next day.  Two movies that  were playing on the cruise:  Titanic and Airplane.  These guys are real freakin' comedians!

Seriously, when was the last time you ever saw a successful plane crash into water?  It's only happened once before where everyone survived, in Russia in 1963, 52 passengers and crew.  Sully should go into the pilot's hall of fame for that one.
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mark0006

Whatever happened to the pilot?

mark0006

What ever happened to the pilot? He was super famous after the crash landing.

Lennard


Mytur Binsdirti

Quote from: Lennard on March 07, 2015, 04:41:31 AM
Are you schizophrenic?  :lol:


Schizophrenic? More like living under a rock.    ::)

bill440rt

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Dino

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John_Kunkel

Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Chargen69

A friend of mine's son was on that plane, in the back.  That water was COLD, and they really thought they were going to drown inside the plane before they got out. It was very scary inside for several minutes.

AKcharger

Well let me share another version of the story... but I preface this with the statement of unless you've been there you don't know what it's like so I'm not judging either way.

I was jumpseating with some US Air guys on an Airbus from ANC-PHX and the subject of ol' Sully came up, they have slightly different take on the hero story. According to them the data showed birds took out one engine but the other was still making power. The crew pulled both throttles back to idle (for restart) and that's where they stayed. (1:09-1:14 on recording) and the Co-pilot even remarked the Lt. engine making power (1:39-1:41). They said Sully screwed up and destroyed a plane when he could have simply pushed the throttle up and flown back to LGA.

By the time all this was known the "train had left the station" and Sully was a national hero and there was absolutely no way the company was going to say he goofed.

:popcrn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWpSAfF6elI

RallyeMike

I'd believe the FHA report (available on line, conclusion = both engines damaged to point of no thrust, and no pilot error) long before I put any stock in a couple of bored guys shooting bull.
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Quote from: AKcharger on March 09, 2015, 02:14:29 PM
According to them the data showed birds took out one engine but the other was still making power. The crew pulled both throttles back to idle (for restart) and that's where they stayed. (1:09-1:14 on recording) and the Co-pilot even remarked the Lt. engine making power (1:39-1:41).

Nothing like Monday morning quarterbacking. Yeah, the engine was making thrust but was it enough to pull the aircraft out of its predicament?
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

AKcharger

 :shruggy:

If this was coming from some weekend Cessna pilot it would be MMQ. But coming from pilots from the same company flying the same airplane going through a training program privy to every detail of the accident...I give it a bit more credence.

I'm not arguing anything...everything turned out OK, but there's ALWAYS more to ANY story, that's my point

What right isn't always popular...and what's popular isn't always right

flyinlow

FADEC  (full authority digital engine controllers) equipped engines are great when they are working correctly. In this case I thought the damage to the inlet temp/pressure probes was enough that the FADEC could not get more than idle thrust from the engine. While an idling engine would provide electric power, hydraulic power and bleed air, it would not do more than stretch your glide a little. I takes about 40-50% thrust from one engine to keep a two engine Airliner flying at minimum safe speed a couple thousand feet above the airport.

Given the prospects of landing short of the runway in Teterbourgh or La Guardia, that miles long stretch of mostly empty ditching space looked like the best choice.

I thought the crew did great with a bad situation and little time. :Twocents:

bull

Here's a dumb question; how come there's no bars or screens at the front of jet engines to avoid catastrophic bird strikes or dudes walking around on the flight deck strikes? I'm sure it has something to do with thrust flow or something a novice like myself has little/no knowledge of.

Mopar Nut

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AKcharger

Quote from: bull on April 05, 2015, 02:00:19 PMhow come there's no bars or screens at the front of jet engines to avoid catastrophic bird strikes or dudes walking around on the flight deck strikes?

Nah, not stupid...two reasons main reasons:
1) to have a screen effective enough to prevent bird strike to would have to be smaller than chicken wire but but as strong/thick as rebar.  So air restriction, weight and you'd have to heat it or it would gather ice when flying through clouds and you'd have ice FOD threat

2) risk management...it just happen enough to justify cost. Plus there's all kinds of programs at airports to disperse birds from trained falcons, to "bird guns" to letting the grass grow high.