Hot Rod Crate 69 Camaro Vert

[Ghoste]

I didn't even know somebody had repopped hoods.  Was that Goodmark as well?

[Charger_Fan]

BTW: Whether DCX won't allow reproduction, or licensing is cost prohibitive...we can STILL blame them and not the guys re-poping the Camaro. And say what you will about hating Camaros, but I think this company is doing a great service to the hobby and should be applauded for their efforts. Sure they're making a few bucks, but they are also breathing life into the industry and will likely be somewhat responsible for repopularizing an American icon....yes, the Camaro IS an American icon, like it or not. In 5 years these bodies will be more affordable and more peripheral products will be needed and manufactured to keep up with demand. Not a bad situation from any angle IMO.

Backing up to the point about Goodmark not being happy with the Challenger 1/4 acceptance, did anyone else wonder why they started the program with that and not the Cuda?  I would think there are more people doing the Plymouth and they need to be promoting the hell out of it.

I'm not sure why they didn't start with the Cuda...maybe because they're not really 'Mopar' guys, they just shut their eyes & pointed...or flipped a quarter.
I think they would have had GREAT acceptance if they would have started with '70 Charger 1/4's first...there would have been a 12 month waiting line.

[Old Moparz]

Ghoste,

Yes, Goodmark did the hoods with the twin scoops. I have no friggen idea why anyone thought that a hood like that, & not a shaker would sell & make a nice profit. 

[PocketThunder]

Ghoste,

Yes, Goodmark did the hoods with the twin scoops. I have no friggen idea why anyone thought that a hood like that, & not a shaker would sell & make a nice profit.  

Isn't that the F&F2 Chally hood.  mabye they thought all the people who watched that movie will want a hood like that.

[Old Moparz]

I'm pretty sure that hood was available long before the movie was out. The hood is nice, & I'm sure there were 19 people who were happy to get a replacement, but I think parts like full quarters & fenders were needed long before a hood. Their site has a lot of things being tooled with future releases planned. I know I'll be getting quarters & fenders for the '71 Barracuda, bumpers for the '69 Satellite, & I'm planning on a major purchase at a swap meet next year if it can help keep the shipping cost out of the picture.

[69bananabeast]

Read part of the article . It never said they wont do Mopar , it just said if they did it would be "further along down the road"

[Ghoste]

Well, it's too bad Goodmark wouldn't try and learn a little more about the Mopar folks before jumping in and then changing their mind.
Not that we don't need Chally parts but you only have to read two Mopar mags to know what's popular.  A little time on the net will soon point you where things are sorely needed too.

[SeattleCharger]

 

[68charger70cuda]

i asked them this question in august.   this is their reply:

Dear Customer,
Thank you for your interest in www.Dynacorn.com.
Below is the answer to your question submited on 08/09/2005

QUESTION:
WHY DONT YOU DO A CUDA BODY? IT WOULD SELL LIKE HOTCAKES!!!!!

ANSWER:
Because it takes millions of dollars for tooling and we almost have to
have a guaranteed market. And sorry, Mopar just is not out marketplace.
This is not to say that someday we might do some MOPAR, I wouldn't hold my
breath however.


Please feel free to get back to us for any further assistance.

Sincerely,
Dynacorn.com

[Steve P.]

Well I just figure that our cars will continue to go up in price as theirs go down.


Yeah, I'm selling my 2007 / 1969 Camaro.. It cost me $64,000 to build but I'll take $15,000.. OBO...

You will see guys at shows going underneath cars to check all the frame numbers and body numbers to see if the damn thing is a graft..

Ok i'm just pissed cause they aren't even spitballing a mopar..    Those ballless wonders!!

[PocketThunder]

So what exactly do you need to "tool" up a press anyways.?  I asked my old roommates who were Mechanical Engineers and they said it would take several hundred thousand dollars to tool up a set of fenders.  So what does that mean? 

Do i need to

1) use some sort of digital scanner to copy the exact shape of a NOS or perfect original fender.
2) use a CNC machine to cut out this shape in a large chunk of steel.
3) fit this steel mold in a large press
4) slide in a properly sized sheet of steel and stamp away?

Is that the basic process?  or am i missing something.   How was it done in the 60's?  There werent computers making these mold were there?  Was some guys grinding away on a set of molds untill they got it right? 

PT

[Charger_Fan]

So what exactly do you need to "tool" up a press anyways.?   I asked my old roommates who were Mechanical Engineers and they said it would take several hundred thousand dollars to tool up a set of fenders.   So what does that mean?  

Do i need to

1) use some sort of digital scanner to copy the exact shape of a NOS or perfect original fender.
2) use a CNC machine to cut out this shape in a large chunk of steel.
3) fit this steel mold in a large press
4) slide in a properly sized sheet of steel and stamp away?

Is that the basic process?   or am i missing something.     How was it done in the 60's?   There werent computers making these mold were there?   Was some guys grinding away on a set of molds untill they got it right?  

PT

That's probably most of what's involved for the fender skin, but don't forget about the inner bracing & headlight bucket areas that are made separately, then spot welded on. I would think the bracing would actually be the hard part of making a fender.

[sthemi]

I have about 25 years of stamping experience..  First off the press needed to produce a fender for example costs 1-2 million dollars.. it is necessary to clamp the sheet then draw from the top and bottom to create all the contours.
Then to get the fold over for the top of the fender it takes another set of dies and presses to fold then and put in the inner edge where the bolts go.. and yes the brkts and supports all take seperate tooling..and differnet presses.
Design and tool room time is at least $75 per hour in the USA...

The tool steel needed to make a fender die is going to be more than $50k

And  dont forget... you need both the left and right sides.. so double everything..

[ChargerBill]

Even though I think the Camaro is a great starting point, in all honesty I think they could have made one of ANY of the following and sold a bunch:

'69 Camaro (obviously)
'67 GTO
'71 Cuda
'70/'71 Chally
'68/'69/'70 Charger
'67 Mustang fastback
'55 or '57 Bel Air
'59 Caddy

And yes, I think that a Charger body would sell very well...even to those who wouldn't have it as their first choice. The 2nd Gen Charger is considered by many/most automotive historians and serious enthusiasts and a HUGE milestone in design. BUT, I am honestly gald that they didn't make a Charger body...I would HATE to see them everywhere and if I was a classic Camaro owner I'd be more than a little bent out of shape over this new offering.