Denver legalizes marijuana possession...........>>>>

[Johnny SixPack]

I think region, quality and supply all play a part.

The northwest is much more expensive on average than here in the south, but the quality here is severely lacking.

I'd have to say that an 1/8 in let's say, Portland, OR would be $40.00.

Here, you could get the same amount of swag for $10.00, but it'd be junk.

If you wanted similar quality, wow, you could be talking $80.00 quite possibly.

I really couldn't say though, as I've never looked since I've lived here in Texas.

But $40 - $45 is pretty standard in Oregon at least.

How long it would last you is entirely up to your consumption level.

I guess the pricing in terms of effects is comparable to alcohol.

Two beers at a bar would run you about $5 (depending on brand of course), and their effects would equal that of a nickel bag IMO.

[Charger_Fan]

The northwest is much more expensive on average than here in the south, but the quality here is severely lacking.

That's odd, I would have thought it would be better just because you're closer to South America!

So it sounds like it's probably about the same price as mid-priced beer.

[Vainglory, Esq.]

Simmer down now.  

No need for this thread to go up in smoke.


So...guys, how much is a bag?

Depends on where you are.  In Berkeley an eigth of some pretty good stuff will run you about $25, and in L.A., the same thing will go for about $30.

This info comes from a friend of mine who used to deal, but has since reformed.

[TheGhost]

Can we honestly say though that the current crop of marijuana users will substantially grow?

Maybe in the short-term, but I don't see there being a major upswing in habitual users.

I can tell you, I won't smoke one, just because it's legal.  Nor will most of the people I know.  I'll stick to my booze, and the occassional cigarette.

[John_Kunkel]

Fine, smoke up all you guys want.   I can not and will not waste any more words on such an adamant bunch of people who are willing to place poisons into their systems just because they think its their right to.

Why have you decided to jump on a soap box and denounce the poison of drugs and not the other legal poisons that our citizens ingest on a daily basis?

Cheeseburgers have killed more people than drugs; why aren't you lambasting red meat? Is your diet totally devoid of "poisons" of all kinds? If not, isn't your tirade a little hypocritical?

And the comment about not everyone being like me "thankfully"   was done in a condescending sense and I do believe that you should actually strike that from your post based on the grounds that it is derogatory and does not promote good discussion.

Why would I want to strike a comment that I intended to be taken exactly as written?   I am thankful that there aren't more of your ilk trying to tell us how to live our lives, and plainly said so.  

For those who are so individualistic minded and think that nothing you do to yourself affects the whole, well, then you are all just oblivious to reality.

Ah, the old "your bad habits cost society" B.S. That is a bottomless chasm.

Everything should be legal then right?   But no, that can not happen, because some of that stuff is really bad!!!!  

Problem is the interpretation of "really bad". I prefer not to have pompous moralists deciding what's bad for me and not.

[Johnny SixPack]

Let's keep the condesention to a minimun, mmm-kay?

[Big Lebowski]

Geez, i guess i picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. Put the Big Lebowski back in the DVD player.

Geez, i guess i picked the wrong week to quit taking Barbituates. 

  BTW, Prices?  Dunno, but if you have to ask, you can't afford the real So. Cal. Bubble Gum Dynamite strain, an offshoot of the Bad Mother#%&ker seed clones, whatever that lingo means  I'm told it has the cat wiss flavor.  ? Dunno if that's good or bad?

[BigBlockSam]

juicy fruit, sweet taste, mellow, happy head   

[Dale The Bold]

how asinine is it to outlaw a plant?  

Probably about as asinine as it is to light one on fire and suck on it.

The only reason stuff gets outlawed is because people are too irresponsible with it.   Should marijuana be outlawed?   It shouldn't have to be.   So does the blame lie in the lawmakers or the morons who make the lawmakers feel it's necessary to control a substance?   The world has enough idiots, and with the current shortage of braincells in the population, we need not kill off more in the pursuit of "fun."

To me, drug use/alcoholism is a really pathetic attempt at creating synthetic happiness.   It just means that a person has failed so much in life, that they seek enjoyment in dumbing down their brain enough to "trick" it into thinking they are having fun.   Lame.   If someone wants to kill off the few brain cells they have left, that's their business.   As long as they can keep a steady job and keep themselves off the road, I don't care.   BUT, if I have to help pay to support them, run a risk by sharing the roads with them, or deal with overcrowded hospitals and organ donor waiting lists because they all put themselves into poor health, then their pathetic habits step on a few innocent toes and that bothers me.

Personally, I think doctors are even getting a bit to liberal with prescription drugs, too.   They have their purpose of course and are often well-prescribed, but it just seems to be the trendy "quick fix" which is being overused.   Hardly anyone anymore is drug-free, and I think relying upon something like that could become the greatest weakness of the species.

[Shakey]

Out of curiosity, what is the going rate these days for a bag-o-weed? And how big is the bag, and how long does the bag last?

Just wondering how it compares to my beer consumption.

A case of Canadian beer costs $36.00 CDN, a case will last me, on average, about a month.   

An ounce of grass costs $320.00 CDN.  I have never bought that much, and never will.  I usually get $40.00, and that would last me for 3 months.  A skinny little joint to smoke on a Friday or Saturday night, after everyone's in bed (Wife & Daughter), to sit back and enjoy a movie.   

I don't think it is fair to label me a "pothead", but if you want to because it makes you feel better about yourself, and the fact that you don't smoke pot - go right ahead!   

Would you think it would be fair to label me an acoholic or a drunk?   

[BB1]

Yuck Yuck

[Orange_Crush]

how asinine is it to outlaw a plant?  

To me, drug use/alcoholism is a really pathetic attempt at creating synthetic happiness.   It just means that a person has failed so much in life, that they seek enjoyment in dumbing down their brain enough to "trick" it into thinking they are having fun.   Lame.   If someone wants to kill off the few brain cells they have left, that's their business.   As long as they can keep a steady job and keep themselves off the road, I don't care.   BUT, if I have to help pay to support them, run a risk by sharing the roads with them, or deal with overcrowded hospitals and organ donor waiting lists because they all put themselves into poor health, then their pathetic habits step on a few innocent toes and that bothers me.

Ahhh...the "synthetic happiness" and "escape from reality" argument.

Lemme explain something about weed for those who have never smoked it (or haven't smoked enough to really experience the effects).

Weed does not instantly "make you happy."  In fact, if you're pissed or having a bad day, weed is probably the last thing you want to try because it won't make your anger go away.  The same goes for depression.  Weed will not "brighten your day."  You really want to smoke when you're already in a good mood.

It also doesn't allow you to escape from "reality."  With weed, you are always acutely aware of everything that's going on.  You want to escape from reality, there are other drugs for that.

Weed is more like an "amplifier."  For example, you watch...for lack of a better choice, "The Song Remains the Same" without "enhancers" and its a pretty boring concert flick.  Watch it after smoking some good, mellow weed, and the movie comes to life.

When you smoke weed, it makes other people more interesting.  And it makes listening to music an absolutely intense experience.

[Shakey]

how asinine is it to outlaw a plant?  

To me, drug use/alcoholism is a really pathetic attempt at creating synthetic happiness.   It just means that a person has failed so much in life, that they seek enjoyment in dumbing down their brain enough to "trick" it into thinking they are having fun.   Lame.   If someone wants to kill off the few brain cells they have left, that's their business.   As long as they can keep a steady job and keep themselves off the road, I don't care.   BUT, if I have to help pay to support them, run a risk by sharing the roads with them, or deal with overcrowded hospitals and organ donor waiting lists because they all put themselves into poor health, then their pathetic habits step on a few innocent toes and that bothers me.

Ahhh...the "synthetic happiness" and "escape from reality" argument.

Lemme explain something about weed for those who have never smoked it (or haven't smoked enough to really experience the effects).

Weed does not instantly "make you happy."   In fact, if you're pissed or having a bad day, weed is probably the last thing you want to try because it won't make your anger go away.   The same goes for depression.   Weed will not "brighten your day."   You really want to smoke when you're already in a good mood.

It also doesn't allow you to escape from "reality."   With weed, you are always acutely aware of everything that's going on.   You want to escape from reality, there are other drugs for that.

Weed is more like an "amplifier."   For example, you watch...for lack of a better choice, "The Song Remains the Same" without "enhancers" and its a pretty boring concert flick.   Watch it after smoking some good, mellow weed, and the movie comes to life.

When you smoke weed, it makes other people more interesting.  And it makes listening to music an absolutely intense experience.

The Song Remains the Same was one of my first experiences with grass.   Simply amazing!

[Charger_Fan]

Out of curiosity, what is the going rate these days for a bag-o-weed? And how big is the bag, and how long does the bag last?

Just wondering how it compares to my beer consumption.

A case of Canadian beer costs $36.00 CDN, a case will last me, on average, about a month.     

An ounce of grass costs $320.00 CDN.  

Wow! Now that's quite a difference!
That's worse than Hitler...or gas prices.

At that rate, I'll gladly stick with sudz.

[Johnny SixPack]

how asinine is it to outlaw a plant?  

Probably about as asinine as it is to light one on fire and suck on it.

Which is no more asinine than the desire to flop yourself in front of a T.V. while consuming pork rinds and domestic beer.

I'd hazard that the effects of the pork rinds and domestic beer (don't even get me started on the T.V.) are much more damaging than puffing on a doobie while listening to Leppelin.

I don't hear anyone clamoring to outlaw those activities, although in the long run they will cause more deaths and medical expenditures then pot ever will.

There's just the mythos of the stoned waster doing nothing and ending up being a complete and total burden on society.

And as others have stated in this thread, I think part of that comes from a need to feel better than "those" people simply for a sense of self satisfaction.

Those are the people that label anyone who smokes pot as worthless, weak, unmotivated, dumb, stoners, wasters, pathetic, etc. more for as a way to control them.

For as we all know, the first step in controlling, or out right denying, the validity of something is to slap a condescending label on it.

Paint it in a bad enough light and people who really don't know anything about a subject will develop an irrational fear/hatred/dislike of d@mn near anything.

Anybody have any Russian or Cuban friends around 1962?

OK, enough of that.

On another note, someone was talking about pot being a gateway drug, and that got me to thinking.

For those of you who have experience with the weed, what was your gateway drug?

For me, it was cigarettes.

Then alcohol.

Weed was third in the line.

So if anything, I'd have to say nicotine was my gateway drug.

[Troy]

When you smoke weed, it makes other people more interesting.

If that is the case then I'm gonna need to start smoking weed just to make it through some of these topics...

Troy

[Johnny SixPack]

Im tellin' you, man!  

Makes the ScotchTapedBandito's posts interesting.

Well, maybe that's stretching it.  

[Doc74]

When you smoke weed, it makes other people more interesting.

If that is the case then I'm gonna need to start smoking weed just to make it through some of these topics...

Troy

Aren't you indecisive enough to do that ?   

[Orange_Crush]

When you smoke weed, it makes other people more interesting.

If that is the case then I'm gonna need to start smoking weed just to make it through some of these topics...

Troy

I have actually been to functions where I have had to go outside to my car and fire one up before I went back in so I could tolerate the people around me.

As far as "gateway drugs" go.

I'm kind of a bad example to use in this case because the first drug I ever tried was weed.   I smoked weed almost exclusively through HS and started drinking in college.   I did drop acid a few times in college until I had a bad trip and stopped.   After college I tried Extasy one time at a club called "Park Elevator" and spent the whole night feeling up up a brick wall because it felt so good against my hands.   

I can't say, however, that I tried any of those other drugs because weed just wasn't "doing it for me" anymore.   I always enjoyed weed and never considered quitting.   I dropped acid for the first time just because I wanted to see what it was like to be in an "altered state."   It was kind of cool...until, that it, the aforementioned bad trip.

[golden73]

When you smoke weed, it makes other people more interesting.

If that is the case then I'm gonna need to start smoking weed just to make it through some of these topics...

Troy

 


I first started on alcohol, became an alcoholic so I stopped that completely. Then I tried pot, did that my senior year of HS. After I graduated I got into coke. Never had any desire to do shrooms and acid.

I've only done 2 illegal drugs and will not do any others.

Any of you guys try salvia divinorum?

[BigBlockSam]

Lemme explain something about weed for those who have never smoked it (or haven't smoked enough to really experience the effects).

Weed does not instantly "make you happy."  In fact, if you're pissed or having a bad day, weed is probably the last thing you want to try because it won't make your anger go away.  The same goes for depression.  Weed will not "brighten your day."  You really want to smoke when you're already in a good mood.

It also doesn't allow you to escape from "reality."  With weed, you are always acutely aware of everything that's going on.  You want to escape from reality, there are other drugs for that.

Weed is more like an "amplifier."  For example, you watch...for lack of a better choice, "The Song Remains the Same" without "enhancers" and its a pretty boring concert flick.  Watch it after smoking some good, mellow weed, and the movie comes to life.

When you smoke weed, it makes other people more interesting.  And it makes listening to music an absolutely intense experience.   

thats a man who know' s his weed.

[MichaelRW]

I'm late to this discussion but now Denver can be called the Mile High City for more than it's elevation.

[bull]

Why don't we just put some liquified Prozac in 2,000 crop dusters and spray the whole country twice a week?

[Johnny SixPack]

Why don't we just put some liquified Prozac in 2,000 crop dusters and spray the whole country twice a week?

I thought Geory Norie said they were already doing that?

[bull]

Why don't we just put some liquified Prozac in 2,000 crop dusters and spray the whole country twice a week?

I thought Geory Norie said they were already doing that?

Oh, that's who I swiped that idea from.