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My first car (re-named from my parents....)

Started by 500hp_440, January 03, 2009, 10:08:41 PM

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tommymac

Well that was fun to watch,Like some bad dream,Crazy Kid,Nutty Parents and a Hot car soon to be DESTROYED!!! Take it away,someone..Please! Sorry Ryan Your too immature for this kind of car now.Stick to your big Trucks an 4-Wheelies and such,Please!

RallyeMike

With the time and money it will take to put the car together, plus a hot motor being maintained by newbie (and a Chevy guy  :lol:  ), chances are it won't see the road much until there is some maturation. Looking at the quickie paint job on the engine, who knows how long it will hold together while doing all those wheelstands? Of course, I can make this prediction from the safety of 2200 miles of separation.

Good luck with your ride, Ryan. Drive it with your brain and not your ego and maybe you'll survive it.

It was very heartwarming to watch everyone kiss and makeup. I'm going to go listen to some Air Supply and pet my hamster now   :angel:


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Bobs69

Wow.  I for one think we can learn something from Ryan.

Ghoste

Quote from: 500hp_440 on January 05, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
no such number on the trans
but new long engine number (from a different sport then you said) its
PT440P2449108 and there was a 1 after that number but it was lower and a space away
That means something.  I might be wrong here and if I am someone will correct me, but...  The PT is the Trenton Michigan engine assembly plant, 440 is 440, P is premium fuel (think high performance :icon_smile_wink:), 2449 is April 11-1968 and is the day the day the engine was assembled, 108 means it was the 108th one they built that day and I think the 1 means first shift.
There will be a similar series of numbers on the trans.

tan top

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 05, 2009, 07:44:25 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 05, 2009, 05:52:35 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 05, 2009, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: NOT Just 6T9 CHGR on January 05, 2009, 03:48:24 PM
Quote from: Finn on January 05, 2009, 03:14:00 PM

As rare as it may be, a color combo of yellow and green??? :eek2:

Rare?  not really...uncommon?  yes

What would be rare is if his parents restore it to the tag and not resale red  :Twocents:

PS---get out your decoder pens boys & you will see a rare Y2/CRG RT/SE car......1 option shy of a 2 tagger (of which I have NEVER seen on a '69 Charger....)
Bonus points if you see the "coolest" option  :popcrn:

PSS---how cool is a chromed fendertag?


power sunroof !!

 i bet that lookes a awesome charger if its been restored   :yesnod:

thinking that tag is from the car that the magnum engeneering guy was  selling on ebay  :scratchchin:    ,   that had a sunroof  :scratchchin:  :popcrn:

thought i had more pictures saved  :scratchchin:
I remember that car on ebay.  Didn't he want like 25k for it, unrestored?

yeah i think he did .... not sure though ??.....
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500hp_440

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 05, 2009, 11:10:20 PM
Quote from: 500hp_440 on January 05, 2009, 10:57:48 PM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on January 05, 2009, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: 500hp_440 on January 05, 2009, 10:46:41 PM
Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on January 05, 2009, 09:32:06 PM
Wow....this thread started off BAD. :lol: He was giving 16 year old Charger owners a bad name. :D Believe me, I've learned...do not screw around with the guys on this site, they know their stuff and really like tormenting the young guns when they make themselves look like idiots. You will learn. :D
but really how many 16 yearold 69 charger owners are there for me to give a bad name to?  :shruggy: :lol:

Okay....just me on the '69 side (I think?). :smilielol: I had a really bad start when I joined the site so don't worry...you're not the only one. :2thumbs:
you lost me :shruggy: but thats good to know, i cant believe 13+ pages and 250 posts WOW
Well if anything came out of this, it could be you're in for 133 post and you're brand new!  That's probably a record.  Keep this up and you'll be an " Old timer " within a week.  Then even you will have to tolerate the 16 year olds.  :smilielol:  You find that "spell check " button yet. :icon_smile_wink:
how many posts do i need? :icon_smile_big:
Let it alone^.

500hp_440

Quote from: Brock Samson on January 05, 2009, 11:12:46 PM
Ryan, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank the Academy and my.. oh,.. wait,..  wrong speech,..
Seriously I'd like to apologise too for bustin your err,. chops, I have been known to do that,.. Cody and Wing both have also had to run the Gauntlet here...
Even Arizona Dave managed to get on my bad side,..  not hard to do either since several of my sides are bad...
But it's all good cause Chris G. likes to pick on me from time to time,..  :shruggy: Whadd I do?..   :slap:  :RantExplode:
Welcome to the site Ryan, and I'm sure with enough $ we can git your R/T to lift the front wheels and qualify for the front row at Daytona...  :scratchchin: maybe even git 30 MPG.. o.k 20...
Perhaps "The Rhino" would be a good nickname for your Charger...  

thanks , and shes not named yet, if i dont name her she wont die, right? ill figure something out
Let it alone^.

500hp_440

Quote from: Silver R/T on January 06, 2009, 12:00:48 AM
Quote from: 500hp_440 on January 05, 2009, 08:19:38 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on January 05, 2009, 08:16:41 PM
No, it's all good.  Like I said, the chances of them being the correct application parts and or date code for your car were slim long shots at best but it's always worth checking.  As was also stated it doesn't matter much anyway except to purists.
Well this way when the engine blows and the transmition throw another gear, it wont be so bad.
Is there anyway to get my charger to do wheelies and burnouts or is it just one or the other?

you CAN if you build it to "fast and furious" specs.

i know the guy that built that car, i could have him restore mine if i wanter
Let it alone^.

500hp_440

Quote from: Ghoste on January 06, 2009, 04:56:03 AM
Quote from: 500hp_440 on January 05, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
no such number on the trans
but new long engine number (from a different sport then you said) its
PT440P2449108 and there was a 1 after that number but it was lower and a space away
That means something.  I might be wrong here and if I am someone will correct me, but...  The PT is the Trenton Michigan engine assembly plant, 440 is 440, P is premium fuel (think high performance :icon_smile_wink:), 2449 is April 11-1968 and is the day the day the engine was assembled, 108 means it was the 108th one they built that day and I think the 1 means first shift.
There will be a similar series of numbers on the trans.
thanks, works for me
Let it alone^.

hemigeno

Quote from: Ghoste on January 06, 2009, 04:56:03 AM
Quote from: 500hp_440 on January 05, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
but new long engine number (from a different sport then you said) its
PT440P2449108 and there was a 1 after that number but it was lower and a space away
That means something.  I might be wrong here and if I am someone will correct me, but...  The PT is the Trenton Michigan engine assembly plant, 440 is 440, P is premium fuel (think high performance :icon_smile_wink:), 2449 is April 11-1968 and is the day the day the engine was assembled, 108 means it was the 108th one they built that day and I think the 1 means first shift.

... which explains why there's no VIN pad or number where we've been telling him to look.  If it was originally in a '68 model year car, the original car's S.O. number (or VIN in some instances) would be stamped on the rear bell flange near the oil sending unit.  Try looking there.

Also,  there are some numbers/letters stamped on an I.D. pad cast into the block near the distributor.  That would give a lot of information about the original engine assembly, but if the block was decked the pad was probably wiped clean.

PocketThunder

Quote from: RallyeMike on January 06, 2009, 01:48:02 AM
It was very heartwarming to watch everyone kiss and makeup. I'm going to go listen to some Air Supply and pet my hamster now   :angel:

Air Supply...  :rofl:
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Arizona Dave

Quote from: PocketThunder on January 06, 2009, 10:25:32 AM
Quote from: RallyeMike on January 06, 2009, 01:48:02 AM
It was very heartwarming to watch everyone kiss and makeup. I'm going to go listen to some Air Supply and pet my hamster now   :angel:

Air Supply...  :rofl:

:eek2:  :no:.
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Look me up when you're in AZ.
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C_stripes

I was thinking about the whole charger doing a wheelie. I am not sure it is even possible. I don't recall seeing any chargers doing wheelies. Not even the DLI charger.  I will say though. My friend has a 68 dart GTS set up for drag racing. It does lift the front wheels off of the ground. The car has been gutted so there is no excess weight and it has been tubed. It has a four link rear and the unibody is tied together. The engine does legitimately run about 600 HP to the trans. Not sure of rear wheel. It does mid to high 9 1/4's with no NOS. I would say that in a charger that weighs allot more than that dart and is longer so the center of gravity is different, you would have to have at least 850 HP at the crank to even get it to think about it.  Your charger WOULD NOT be street able at all and it would loose allot of value because you would literally have to cut the thing up. There is no way you could get it to lift the front on tires that will fit in the stock wheel wells. If you want a car to drag race or to lift the front off of the ground. Sell the charger and take the money and buy a nice Duster or Dart. They are not near as desirable and it wont take as much to make it go fast in the 1/4. But if you have a car that is going to lift the wheels off of the ground. You wont be able to drive it on the street. The stall converter would have to be huge. The dart that I told you about is not even close to being able to be driven on the street. The slicks in the rear are about two feet wide. That means there is around four feet of rubber hitting the ground to lift the wheels up.

:Twocents:  Later,  Jeremy

Also,   Sorry that we started off on the wrong foot.  I am glad that you are seeing how valuable this site can be.   
I'm smarter than I act, But I don't act smarter than I am.

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: C_stripes on January 06, 2009, 11:13:26 AM
I was thinking about the whole charger doing a wheelie. I am not sure it is even possible. I don't recall seeing any chargers doing wheelies. Not even the DLI charger.  I will say though. My friend has a 68 dart GTS set up for drag racing. It does lift the front wheels off of the ground. The car has been gutted so there is no excess weight and it has been tubed. It has a four link rear and the unibody is tied together. The engine does legitimately run about 600 HP to the trans. Not sure of rear wheel. It does mid to high 9 1/4's with no NOS. I would say that in a charger that weighs allot more than that dart and is longer so the center of gravity is different, you would have to have at least 850 HP at the crank to even get it to think about it.  Your charger WOULD NOT be street able at all and it would loose allot of value because you would literally have to cut the thing up. There is no way you could get it to lift the front on tires that will fit in the stock wheel wells. If you want a car to drag race or to lift the front off of the ground. Sell the charger and take the money and buy a nice Duster or Dart. They are not near as desirable and it wont take as much to make it go fast in the 1/4. But if you have a car that is going to lift the wheels off of the ground. You wont be able to drive it on the street. The stall converter would have to be huge. The dart that I told you about is not even close to being able to be driven on the street. The slicks in the rear are about two feet wide. That means there is around four feet of rubber hitting the ground to lift the wheels up.

:Twocents:  Later,  Jeremy

Also,   Sorry that we started off on the wrong foot.  I am glad that you are seeing how valuable this site can be.   
Pretty sure I saw a black 70 do a wheelie on U tube at one time.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

sunroofblacklee

Hey Chris, this is what I see on that fender tag that sticks out to me, power windows are pretty cool as well.  Very simular to the options on the one that I'm trying to get.


1969 dodge charger r/t 440, hemi 4 speed, dana 60, triple black

bull

Quote from: C_stripes on January 06, 2009, 11:13:26 AM
I was thinking about the whole charger doing a wheelie. I am not sure it is even possible. I don't recall seeing any chargers doing wheelies. Not even the DLI charger.    

Oh yea, it's possible. Anything's possible with an endless supply of cash. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4vjllW0rjY

Quote from: hemigeno on January 06, 2009, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on January 06, 2009, 04:56:03 AM
Quote from: 500hp_440 on January 05, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
but new long engine number (from a different sport then you said) its
PT440P2449108 and there was a 1 after that number but it was lower and a space away
That means something.  I might be wrong here and if I am someone will correct me, but...  The PT is the Trenton Michigan engine assembly plant, 440 is 440, P is premium fuel (think high performance :icon_smile_wink:), 2449 is April 11-1968 and is the day the day the engine was assembled, 108 means it was the 108th one they built that day and I think the 1 means first shift.

... which explains why there's no VIN pad or number where we've been telling him to look.  If it was originally in a '68 model year car, the original car's S.O. number (or VIN in some instances) would be stamped on the rear bell flange near the oil sending unit.  Try looking there.

Also,  there are some numbers/letters stamped on an I.D. pad cast into the block near the distributor.  That would give a lot of information about the original engine assembly, but if the block was decked the pad was probably wiped clean.


I was waiting for someone to catch that. You can look all day but you'll never find 69 numbers on a 68 motor.

Oh, and to answer the original question, yes, I think your parents are pretty foolish to consider letting you drive a "500" horsepower Charger. I imagine it turning out something like one of these fine examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQPp88lplVg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jOSriof-bk&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7XkcTgfNzo

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: sunroofblacklee on January 06, 2009, 12:02:02 PM
Hey Chris, this is what I see on that fender tag that sticks out to me, power windows are pretty cool as well.  Very simular to the options on the one that I'm trying to get.


The one you are trying to get has a few waaaayyy better options ;)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


SFRT

doing wheelies seems like an awesome way to destroy a charger. I would like the endless cash supply that comes with it though.

see if you had an endless cash supply you could have some insane genius metalworkers build you an all-aluminum body and so on......
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Wow, I was wondering how I missed such a long thread that was so new. Good thing I was slow at work today or I'd have never been able to catch up on it.   :lol:

It's definitely an interesting car.
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tan top

check this video out , the car is a real 69 R/T SE  , its not that cut up either , there has been a thread on it over on moparts , but i can't use their damn search thingy  :rotz:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y4vjllW0rjY
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

PocketThunder

Quote from: tan top on January 06, 2009, 01:40:25 PM
check this video out , the car is a real 69 R/T SE  , its not that cut up either , there has been a thread on it over on moparts , but i can't use their damn search thingy  :rotz:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y4vjllW0rjY

Thats ok tan top, nobody understands the search function on moparts...
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

tan top

Quote from: PocketThunder on January 06, 2009, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 06, 2009, 01:40:25 PM
check this video out , the car is a real 69 R/T SE  , its not that cut up either , there has been a thread on it over on moparts , but i can't use their damn search thingy  :rotz:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y4vjllW0rjY

Thats ok tan top, nobody understands the search function on moparts...

     :2thumbs:     glad i'm not the only one  , thought it was time for me to take a ride :shortbus:    :lol:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

500hp_440

Quote from: C_stripes on January 06, 2009, 11:13:26 AM
I was thinking about the whole charger doing a wheelie. I am not sure it is even possible. I don't recall seeing any chargers doing wheelies. Not even the DLI charger.  I will say though. My friend has a 68 dart GTS set up for drag racing. It does lift the front wheels off of the ground. The car has been gutted so there is no excess weight and it has been tubed. It has a four link rear and the unibody is tied together. The engine does legitimately run about 600 HP to the trans. Not sure of rear wheel. It does mid to high 9 1/4's with no NOS. I would say that in a charger that weighs allot more than that dart and is longer so the center of gravity is different, you would have to have at least 850 HP at the crank to even get it to think about it.  Your charger WOULD NOT be street able at all and it would loose allot of value because you would literally have to cut the thing up. There is no way you could get it to lift the front on tires that will fit in the stock wheel wells. If you want a car to drag race or to lift the front off of the ground. Sell the charger and take the money and buy a nice Duster or Dart. They are not near as desirable and it wont take as much to make it go fast in the 1/4. But if you have a car that is going to lift the wheels off of the ground. You wont be able to drive it on the street. The stall converter would have to be huge. The dart that I told you about is not even close to being able to be driven on the street. The slicks in the rear are about two feet wide. That means there is around four feet of rubber hitting the ground to lift the wheels up.

:Twocents:  Later,  Jeremy

Also,  Sorry that we started off on the wrong foot.  I am glad that you are seeing how valuable this site can be.   
she used to have a 3000 rpm torque converter  :drool5: :drool5: but now it has a stock one, i tried to get the 3k one but he had already sold it  :'(
me too, I'm glad that's over  :cheers:
Let it alone^.

500hp_440

I have a radiator question, mine needs a core I was quoted $300 and change or Yearone :eek2: a new one for $350 (not sure how much the price went up) or $500 recore, should i recore it or is there somewhere i can get a good cheap radiator for it?
Let it alone^.

Topher

What direction to you want to go with this car? You may want to sit down, calm down, clear your thoughts, and writed down your ideas for the car. Do you want a sweet original looking ride, or do you want a mean and nasty street bruiser? It's your car, so build it how you want. It will help save you TONS of CASH and TIME to set a direction for the car FIRST then execute.
Topher

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