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Finding a 69 Charger today, still isn't easy, though over 70,000 were made.

Started by 1969chargerrtse, January 03, 2009, 09:25:32 PM

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PocketThunder

#25
January 06, 2009, 12:42:41 PM
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

Chad L. Magee

#27
January 06, 2009, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on January 06, 2009, 10:54:57 AM
       
How much difficulty does anyone have finding a Charger for sale for $35-50K?

How about $500?





We're not running out of Chargers.  Nothing even close. 

We just all want them in a certain range of prices/conditions.  And then the first thing we do when we get one is start working to move it out of that price/condition.  After several decades of this we're finally running out of these kinds of raw material cars.     

     

I agree.  About the only place you can find those anymore are in very rural areas and/or defunct junkyards wanting to sell out before crushing everything (a rarity in itself).  Although sometimes the cheap charger pop up on ebay now and then, but you have to be lucky to be the high bidder.  Most owners know what they have anymore, so a cheap Charger will have issues reguardless on who is selling it.  As the market values start dropping, I look for the majority of car flippers to fall out of the marketplace, which can increase the odds of finding raw chargers again out in the wild.  But, so far that has not happened around here as some people still think that you can pick them up at pre-1980 prices and then sell them with 2006 prices.  (I was recently asked if there were any hemi cars or vettes for sale in the $1000 range lying around in my neck of the woods.  My reply was: only with the help of a time machine...)  People can still dream of eating the cake, I guess......
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

1969chargerrtse

#28
January 06, 2009, 01:18:21 PM
I think I understand why Chargers and Mopars Are so rare now. Chad has most of them.  :yesnod:
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

Chad L. Magee

#29
January 06, 2009, 01:37:11 PM
I admit to finding and buying my fair share of the oddball ones :drool5: and rough, rusty projects  :icon_smile_blackeye::eek2: over the years.  You know a Charger has lived its last breath if I won't try to save it. :lol:....
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

moparstuart

#30
January 06, 2009, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: Chad L. Magee on January 06, 2009, 01:37:11 PM
I admit to finding and buying my fair share of the oddball ones :drool5: and rough, rusty projects  :icon_smile_blackeye::eek2: over the years.  You know a Charger has lived its last breath if I won't try to save it. :lol:....
:yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod: :yesnod:  thats all i can afford are the ones left for dead
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

68charger383

#31
January 07, 2009, 12:15:01 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on January 06, 2009, 10:54:57 AM
       
How much difficulty does anyone have finding a Charger for sale for $35-50K?

We're not running out of Chargers.  Nothing even close. 

We just all want them in a certain range of prices/conditions.  And then the first thing we do when we get one is start working to move it out of that price/condition. 

I agree, there are plenty of cars for sale...just not at the right price. The days of stealing one for under value are probably over since everyone who has one knows what they are worth. You have to look at other sources like Craig's list or even Hemmings to find cars before they end up on Ebay. http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,51957.0.html

Hell, this 70 R/T with an asking price of $25K is a steal if it is for real. In reality, this is a $22K/$23K selling price for the car. Even if it is a clone, it's not that off on the price. Probably already on the way to the Texas Toy Store/Box or whatever those flippers are called.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/965478961.html
1968 Charger 383(Sold)
2003 Dodge Viper SRT-10

Todd Wilson

#32
January 07, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
They are not hard to find. I am about 50 feet from one right now!    :icon_smile_big:


Todd

moparstuart

#33
January 07, 2009, 12:01:15 PM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on January 07, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
They are not hard to find. I am about 50 feet from one right now!    :icon_smile_big:


Todd

Me too
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

PocketThunder

#34
January 07, 2009, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on January 07, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
They are not hard to find. I am about 50 feet from one right now!    :icon_smile_big:


Todd


:smilielol:   :smilielol:     :smilielol:   :smilielol:   I'm about 9 miles from one.  :icon_smile_big:
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

TruckDriver

#35
January 07, 2009, 09:16:08 PM
Cudakens old Charger? Looks like it :yesnod:

PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

chargerkid01

#36
January 07, 2009, 11:00:06 PM
When I bought mine in 05 It didn't matter what kind of 69 charger it was as long as it was a 69 charger. I got it off ebay. Drove clear to odessa texas to get her and brought it back to the buckeye and have been wrenching ever since. Paid $2500 + cost of the trip. I also bought a parts car in superior wisconsin. It was also an ebay car! You guys with all the rts and se ect they are nice, but you buy what you can afford and at my age I know for a fact I'll never be able to buy one that ws done right not at the price they are now. Maybe one when I'm done with college and ready to retire(yah right retire what does that mean?) Those who have more than one charger you are very lucky because there are guys like me who would do just about anything to get their hands on even one!!

moparstuart

#37
January 07, 2009, 11:07:21 PM
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

teamroth

#38
January 07, 2009, 11:22:25 PM
Stewart, if you don't mind me asking, what would one give for a car in that condition? Maybe a bit sweeter because you knew the owner pretty well, but really curious.
I'd rather die than go to heaven.

moparstuart

#39
January 07, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: teamroth on January 07, 2009, 11:22:25 PM
Stewart, if you don't mind me asking, what would one give for a car in that condition? Maybe a bit sweeter because you knew the owner pretty well, but really curious.
are you talking about the charger ? I wouldnt  know now in this econmy I bought it two years ago when they were higher . I really wanted it bad so I would imagine I over paid then . Now I'm really upside down in it . Clone R/T, automatic car.  I have over 5 grand in the motor with 2k of that being carbs and another 2500 in daytona cloning parts bought for it , with tons more to buy .

  I would image I would have to have 18-20k for it to break even now .  I hate to add up all the reciepts and  :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: my self
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

72SE

#40
January 08, 2009, 12:34:33 AM
Found this 69. From Hardcore's shop. Looks like a few of there cars on the GSA site.

http://gsaauctions.gov/gsaauctions/aucitsrh/

chargerkid01

#41
January 08, 2009, 05:32:41 PM
Is the above site for real or is it a scam?? That is my problem anymore I'm affraid to bid on anything because I almost got burnt awhile back. The only time I do feel comfy bidding on a car is if I know it is a members car, but even them as I said before can't afford one that is already done!!

Mike DC

#42
January 08, 2009, 06:29:21 PM
     

Buying a vintage car that you've never seen in person = Bad idea. 
 
Seller fraud laws are essentially non-existent in the old car field.  You can tell yourself that you've asked enough specific questions & gotten enough specific photos not to get burned, but there's no reason the seller couldn't just be flat-out lying & substituting photos.


If the seller conceals $5000 worth of extra damage, you manage to prove $2000 of it on paper, and the courts/lawyers bite another $1500 out of you in the process . . .  are you gonna be very satisfied in the end?
 

72SE

#43
January 08, 2009, 07:10:48 PM
Quote from: chargerkid01 on January 08, 2009, 05:32:41 PM
Is the above site for real or is it a scam?? That is my problem anymore I'm affraid to bid on anything because I almost got burnt awhile back. The only time I do feel comfy bidding on a car is if I know it is a members car, but even them as I said before can't afford one that is already done!!

The site is a U.S. government website! Look into it, it's legit. You can find some decent deals there sometimes. The charger and other cars were seized by the U.S. marshalls and are from Hardcore. I have bought a few old trucks off of the site and never had a problem.

Todd Wilson

#44
January 09, 2009, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on January 07, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: teamroth on January 07, 2009, 11:22:25 PM
Stewart, if you don't mind me asking, what would one give for a car in that condition? Maybe a bit sweeter because you knew the owner pretty well, but really curious.
are you talking about the charger ? I wouldnt  know now in this econmy I bought it two years ago when they were higher . I really wanted it bad so I would imagine I over paid then . Now I'm really upside down in it . Clone R/T, automatic car.  I have over 5 grand in the motor with 2k of that being carbs and another 2500 in daytona cloning parts bought for it , with tons more to buy .

  I would image I would have to have 18-20k for it to break even now .  I hate to add up all the reciepts and  :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: my self

It looks like its sitting out on the back 40 of the junkyard?!?!   :icon_smile_big:


Todd

moparstuart

#45
January 09, 2009, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on January 09, 2009, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on January 07, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: teamroth on January 07, 2009, 11:22:25 PM
Stewart, if you don't mind me asking, what would one give for a car in that condition? Maybe a bit sweeter because you knew the owner pretty well, but really curious.
are you talking about the charger ? I wouldnt  know now in this econmy I bought it two years ago when they were higher . I really wanted it bad so I would imagine I over paid then . Now I'm really upside down in it . Clone R/T, automatic car.  I have over 5 grand in the motor with 2k of that being carbs and another 2500 in daytona cloning parts bought for it , with tons more to buy .

  I would image I would have to have 18-20k for it to break even now .  I hate to add up all the reciepts and  :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: my self

It looks like its sitting out on the back 40 of the junkyard?!?!   :icon_smile_big:


Todd


We prefer to call it a recycling center .  :smilielol:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

nakita7

#46
January 09, 2009, 02:19:54 PM
I know what you mean, been looking for a Charger for over a year. Chargers are not 'rare' because of the numbers made, they're 'rare' because guys that have them won't sell them, or because guys hoard them, or because they expect you to pay for the labour part of the restoration, which is usually $0/hr in the muscle car world. Been in this game a long time, since Dukes of Hazzard they have ALWAYS been hard to obtain, that's just the way it is. Not every Mopar nut loves Wing cars, or T/A's and AAR's, or Hemi cars or some of the other 'higher' value cars, but most every person that is living and/or breathing on this planet, Mopar or not, loves 2nd gen Chargers. They are simply appealing.

chargerkid01

#47
January 09, 2009, 06:10:59 PM
amen bro my 69 charger is just a 318 car but I wanted one so bad that I didn't care if it had a 6 cylinder in it.

1969chargerrtse

#48
January 09, 2009, 08:16:57 PM
Quote from: chargerkid01 on January 09, 2009, 06:10:59 PM
amen bro my 69 charger is just a 318 car but I wanted one so bad that I didn't care if it had a 6 cylinder in it.
I hear ya, just before I finally found my 69, I was actually searching for a 68 if it had a 4 spd.  Imagine that?  Buying a 68 over a 69.  :image_294343:
:icon_smile_wink:
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

Todd Wilson

#49
January 09, 2009, 08:24:46 PM
Quote from: moparstuart on January 09, 2009, 10:46:50 AM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on January 09, 2009, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: moparstuart on January 07, 2009, 11:33:38 PM
Quote from: teamroth on January 07, 2009, 11:22:25 PM
Stewart, if you don't mind me asking, what would one give for a car in that condition? Maybe a bit sweeter because you knew the owner pretty well, but really curious.
are you talking about the charger ? I wouldnt  know now in this econmy I bought it two years ago when they were higher . I really wanted it bad so I would imagine I over paid then . Now I'm really upside down in it . Clone R/T, automatic car.  I have over 5 grand in the motor with 2k of that being carbs and another 2500 in daytona cloning parts bought for it , with tons more to buy .

  I would image I would have to have 18-20k for it to break even now .  I hate to add up all the reciepts and  :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: my self

It looks like its sitting out on the back 40 of the junkyard?!?!   :icon_smile_big:


Todd


We prefer to call it a recycling center .  :smilielol:


Time to recycle the Cudakentay mobile!?   :icon_smile_big:




Todd
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