Looks like new AMD quarters are working out at MCR

[69*F5*SE]

Was browsing pics and ran across this 69 Charger that Musclecar Restorations is doing and it seems to be AMD panels they're using.   Ted

http://musclecarrestorations.com/gallery2/v/Chrysler/Current/Dodge-Charger-69-003/Dodge_Charger_69_003_0205.JPG.html

http://musclecarrestorations.com/gallery2/v/Chrysler/Current/Dodge-Charger-69-003/?g2_page=4

[tricky lugnuts]

I saw in the Mopar Collector's Guide at the grocery yesterday that AMD is also doing FULL 1971 Charger quarter panels (as well as 1972-74) that run from the rocker and trunk extension all the way up to the sail panel seam on the roof.

All I can say is SWEET even though I don't need a set - might be buying a set just in case, if funds allow...Haven't seen the prices yet, but...

[quapman]

WOW

Where were these guys 20 years back when we were passing on or parting these cars because we couldn't get quarters? 

Still, it's better late than never! 

Steve

[tan top]

good find  ... looks like they cut & butt the edge of the quarter ...  with the original ..hmmmm body lines don't line up    ........

WOW

Where were these guys 20 years back when we were passing on or parting these cars because we couldn't get quarters? 

Still, it's better late than never! 

Steve

thats true ! i often think that ...what cars went to the crusher  in the late 70s 80s .. we would restore now

[Charger-Bodie]

good find  ... looks like they cut & butt the edge of the quarter ...  with the original ..hmmmm body lines don't line up    ........

WOW

Where were these guys 20 years back when we were passing on or parting these cars because we couldn't get quarters? 

Still, it's better late than never! 

Steve

thats true ! i often think that ...what cars went to the crusher  in the late 70s 80s .. we would restore now

Some of those pics are of a regular b-body (non-Charger)

[nitrousn]

Boy it sure looks like a lot of extra work on those quarters. They cut the bottom off on the left side by the rocker and welded it back in, they cut spliced the at the door opening. I thought the AMD were full quarters that fit like oem. The CBD panels fit like oem.

[Charger-Bodie]

Boy it sure looks like a lot of extra work on those quarters. They cut the bottom off on the left side by the rocker and welded it back in, they cut spliced the at the door opening. I thought the AMD were full quarters that fit like oem. The CBD panels fit like oem.

In all fairness go back and look again !! thats not a Charger 1/4 panel !! Probably a skin at that.

[Mopar2Ya]

I was wondering about the fit myself. I may need these soon. This looks like a Charger to me:


This looks like a Coronet?

[Charger-Bodie]

I was wondering about the fit myself. I may need these soon. This looks like a Charger to me:


This looks like a Coronet?

Ah yes! I did not see that pic...Sorry.

I also wonder whats up wit dat?

[suntech]

Anybody talked to them about it?? MCR ? Think i will call them and ask! 

[NorwayCharger]

It is just one way of doing it...
If you do it like this, you can fine adjust the gap as you weld.
I don´t think it has anything to do with bad fit, just one way of doing it.

[Charger-Bodie]

It is just one way of doing it...
If you do it like this, you can fine adjust the gap as you weld.
I don´t think it has anything to do with bad fit, just one way of doing it.

I agree with ya BUT they shouldnt need that if they are right.

[Hemidoug]

It is just one way of doing it...
If you do it like this, you can fine adjust the gap as you weld.
I don´t think it has anything to do with bad fit, just one way of doing it.

I agree with ya BUT they shouldnt need that if they are right.

Depends......was the car ever hit? Things don't line up once metal is bent.....

[tan top]

It is just one way of doing it...
If you do it like this, you can fine adjust the gap as you weld.
I don´t think it has anything to do with bad fit, just one way of doing it.

I agree with ya BUT they shouldnt need that if they are right.

 yep true   ..thought that was the whole idea of the full factory type AMD quarters  ....... ..... &  not have to do that stuff
 

It is just one way of doing it...
If you do it like this, you can fine adjust the gap as you weld.
I don´t think it has anything to do with bad fit, just one way of doing it.

I agree with ya BUT they shouldnt need that if they are right.

Depends......was the car ever hit? Things don't line up once metal is bent.....

true also Doug    .... but   car looked  original & unrestored    

just looked at the other pictures , looks like its had a  new factory passenger fender back in the day !

[Mopar2Ya]

Wreck, stress, age, etc. may play a role, but this seems like unnecessary body work if not.

[suntech]

Like Arne(Norwaycharger) said, just a way of doing it, is what strikes me too. I would not have done it like that. If it had been testfitted and massaged around in a different way, it might have looked different. They are probably not perfect, and somebody over at moparts had issues with the CBD ones. None of these cars are new Audi R8´s, and had big tolerances in production, so parts might have to be massaged into place.

Another thing is that those guys are running a high end resto shop, and charge high hourly rates. If the fit was so bad, i would think it would be more efficiant to toss them, and get the CBD ones, if they are a lot better. 
Guess who will get a phone from me, as soon as they are back for work??? Willl be interresting to get some first hand info

[Dodge Don]

Looks like the quarters were not long enough? Odd. Not sure what to make of that. I have the CBD full quarters and so far they have been great. I saw the post on Moparts and took a print of it to the shop today to get their opinion. The only issue we had was the fit to the aftermarket wheelhousings. A little fabrication resolved that issue and it was their opinion that the issue was with the wheelhousing itself, not the quarter.

I wonder about the quarters that guy got. He has a 69 and had issues with the rear side marker openings. I compared the measurements on my CBD ones to the factory ones and they are dead on accurate....the 70 ones are larger on one end....not sure if 69 are same...I think they are basic rectangles...but maybe he got 70 quarters by mistake?

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4884359&an=0&page=0#Post4884359

[Aero426]

Now this is the only way to fly.   They are using the Cadillac of frame benches, the Blackhawk Bench with fixtures at all critical control points.    Nothing is flapping in the breeze and it will all fit as they put it together.

[Mopar2Ya]

Looks like the quarters were not long enough? Odd. Not sure what to make of that. I have the CBD full quarters and so far they have been great. I saw the post on Moparts and took a print of it to the shop today to get their opinion. The only issue we had was the fit to the aftermarket wheelhousings. A little fabrication resolved that issue and it was their opinion that the issue was with the wheelhousing itself, not the quarter.

I wonder about the quarters that guy got. He has a 69 and had issues with the rear side marker openings. I compared the measurements on my CBD ones to the factory ones and they are dead on accurate....the 70 ones are larger on one end....not sure if 69 are same...I think they are basic rectangles...but maybe he got 70 quarters by mistake?

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4884359&an=0&page=0#Post4884359

All the issues he had w/the CBD qtrs make the AMD's sound even better. 
& you could be right, he may have gotten '70 panels. I wonder if he knows about the difference?

[nitrousn]

Boy it sure looks like a lot of extra work on those quarters. They cut the bottom off on the left side by the rocker and welded it back in, they cut spliced the at the door opening. I thought the AMD were full quarters that fit like oem. The CBD panels fit like oem.

In all fairness go back and look again !! thats not a Charger 1/4 panel !! Probably a skin at that.

I did look several times long and hard and it looks to me like the AMD panels dont fit very well. Those guys are not cutting the panels apart and running long butt welds because the fit is right on. If that was my car and I paid 700.00 bucks for those quarters I would be getting on the horn. There again you get what you pay for. We used the CBD panels and I can assure you they fit and look as advertised. Plus they are made in every aspect in the USA.

[gasoline_24]

I have the AMD installed on mine and they fit great.  No cutting or anything like that.  However, none of the parts are perfect.  I had to have mods here and there to get everything perfect, and I would guess many on here could look at mine and say that there are still problems that I have missed.  Just as they could probably look at the CBD ones that have been installed and pick out flaws even when the owner or installer states they are "perfect".  I would guess they are both damn good parts and both work great.  The difference is price and production location.

[suntech]

We used the CBD panels and I can assure you they fit and look as advertised. Plus they are made in every aspect in the USA.

I dont think any of us has missed that!!

Another thing is that those guys are running a high end resto shop, and charge high hourly rates. If the fit was so bad, i would think it would be more efficiant to toss them, and get the CBD ones, if they are a lot better.  
Guess who will get a phone from me, as soon as they are back for work??? Willl be interresting to get some first hand info

And that is what we need!! Lets not turn this in to a pissing match again!


Edit: and while i was writing this one, we got first hand info!!

[Dodge Don]

I don't understand why it seems to always get into some sort of pissing match. I think it stems from the negative reaction some had to the initial price of the CBD ones when they were the only ones available. Understandable I suppose...they were expensive. But that is life. 

I'm glad we are finally getting some first hand info on the AMD ones. I share my experience not to say mine are better but to help the rest of you considering them get some factual experience. As I have said many times, I can't see why the AMD ones would not be as good as the CBD ones. That said, I will absolutely defend the quality of the 70 full quarters I got from CBD...they have been fantastic. I cannot speak for the 68 or 69 versions obviously. Whether or not the AMD ones are any good is for those that received them and installed them to tell us.

That said, those MCR pictures are puzzling. Maybe Leon or some expert body guys can chime in on why they may be cutting open seams and not going the full distance to the doors.

[tan top]

I don't understand why it seems to always get into some sort of pissing match. I think it stems from the negative reaction some had to the initial price of the CBD ones when they were the only ones available. Understandable I suppose...they were expensive. But that is life. 

I'm glad we are finally getting some first hand info on the AMD ones. I share my experience not to say mine are better but to help the rest of you considering them get some factual experience. As I have said many times, I can't see why the AMD ones would not be as good as the CBD ones. That said, I will absolutely defend the quality of the 70 full quarters I got from CBD...they have been fantastic. I cannot speak for the 68 or 69 versions obviously. Whether or not the AMD ones are any good is for those that received them and installed them to tell us.

That said, those MCR pictures are puzzling. Maybe Leon or some expert body guys can chime in on why they may be cutting open seams and not going the full distance to the doors.

true  its not trying to bash any ones products , as its awesome that all this stuff is available now !!! ..but if this is the case them not fitting correctly ... IE what a body guy can see !! ..... why go to all that expense & trouble  to repop these & not fitting correctly .... 
being in body/paint for 22 years .... i'm guessing    body lines on the quarters don't line up with the doors !  could be too short  but guessing body lines 
you expect to have to make non genuine panels fit , but not  cut the whole edge off   .... at least not for the price they are 

[69*F5*SE]

There's a good chance that the bend that fits the door jam on the AMD panel is not sharp enough of a bend and they decided to cut it and use the factory bend.  That is definitely a problem that is wrong with the same area on typical Sherman skins.  I might be wrong but I doubt it had to do with the length of the panel being too short.  The bend on my quarter is nice and sharp in that area.     Ted