he put it back on ebay....

[vancamp]

the guy who was asking what his restored 69 was worth put it back on ebay same basic add and pics now has starting bid of $40,000

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1969-DODGE-CHARGER-R-T-4406PACK-FERRARI-PORSCHE-BENTLEY_W0QQitemZ230316656208QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item230316656208&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

[Ghoste]

Cool, it's still a Six Pack car too.  No reserve this time but with a starting bid of 40k I don't think I'll be jumping into the bidding frenzy anytime soon.  It will be intersting to see what happens and I wish him (them?, I still think it's a dealer) good luck.

[1969chargerrtse]

I don't even know what to say?  Heater core disconnected, door gaskets missing, crooked panels, misaligned bumpers, what's with the red on the dash?  etc.............  "440 six pack real rare".  Maybe because you couldn't get one at all that year?  No comment.

[hemi-hampton]

 

[riggs626]

If not a dealer Then I would would say a couple buddies of his who are planning on trying to turn a car and make money on it. But Ive never seen a classic car restored the right way sold to where you can actually make money off of them

[Sublime/Sixpack]

I don't even know what to say?  Heater core disconnected, door gaskets missing, crooked panels, misaligned bumpers, what's with the red on the dash?  etc.............  "440 six pack real rare".  Maybe because you couldn't get one at all that year?  No comment.

I'd have to agree.  Plus theres so much misinfomation in the ad, shame on whoever wrote it! And didn't 1969 440 4 spd cars come with the Dana 60?

[Ghoste]

We had a minor sparring contest with him when he posted the car before and he was quite unapologetic about the ad.  They have other cars for sale too.

[68charger383]

Things jumping at me is the lack of AC components, that pistol grip option is unique...rad support is painted red, looks like they restoed the gauges etc for the speedo and the front outboard carb seems to be kinda far from the main carb + no air cleaner or screw for one in the carb?   

[hemi-hampton]

It's a low budget perfume on a pig

[teamroth]

Doesn't look like a fender tag, no mention of one, or a build sheet either. That's alot of ducats for a car with no known history

[bull]

That thing looks like ass and smells like bad fish.

[1969chargerrtse]

Things jumping at me is the lack of AC components, that pistol grip option is unique...rad support is painted red, looks like they restoed the gauges etc for the speedo and the front outboard carb seems to be kinda far from the main carb + no air cleaner or screw for one in the carb?   

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.  4spd cars couldn't have A/C so it's not a rare original 4spd car.  Of all the things, if you're not even caring enough to put the bumper on STRAIGHT!  Why would you take a close up of how sloppy a job the car was slapped together to prove how crappy a job you've done?  That I truly don't understand?  Even the side marker lens looks crooked.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.  4spd cars couldn't have A/C so it's not a rare original 4spd car. 

Partly true......383-4bbl cars could have been optioned with A/C & a 4-speed

[PocketThunder]

It says here he sold it for $24,100 in the last auction.   

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1969-DODGE-CHARGER-R-T-4406PACK-FERRARI-PORSCHE-BENTLEY_W0QQitemZ230314636428QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item230314636428&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

[Dodge Don]

I'll bet that the winning bidder was in fact the seller. I think they realized that POS wasn't going to fetch what they thought and bid to retain the car.

[Ghoste]

Was it no reserve last time as well?  I still say they are flippers who generally trade it late model wrecks that others won't take on and they bumped into this Charger deal somehow and gave it a BK quickie and now want to get NADA guide bucks for it.

[1969chargerrtse]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.  4spd cars couldn't have A/C so it's not a rare original 4spd car. 

Partly true......383-4bbl cars could have been optioned with A/C & a 4-speed

Well o.k, I was taking in the fact it's an R/T car which in this case came with the standard 440 engine, of which a 4spd with air would not be possible.

[Go Hogs Go]

Look at all that undercoating. Look's like a Burger King car.

[BigBlockSam]

I'll bet that the winning bidder was in fact the seller. I think they realized that POS wasn't going to fetch what they thought and bid to retain the car.

he could of just closed the auction

[Beep Beep Dave]

Nice rivets holding down the VIN tag
Dave

[triple_green]

Its a really tough market out there and that car has way too many mods from stock to get to dollar. I'd say $25-30K tops.

[dodgecharger-fan]

Same colour on the other car they've got listed??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-SLK-Class-230-230-kompressor-miata-z3-supercharge-turbo-jaguar-bmw-gt_W0QQitemZ230316430835QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item230316430835&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A64%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Someone should cut off their supply and put an end to the madness.

[quapman]

There's a pair of tards around here who paint every car they flip that same color.

RESALE RED

They did a matching #'s air grabber 70 GTX that was originally B5 blue in this hideous shade.

Back to THIS car. Nice car, but I agree, it smells like the BK killer. How exactly do you shift it and watch the road at the same time? Kinda funny that he's asking LAST YEAR's price for it. Maybe he needs to be clued in on current market prices and that the economy is in the toilet.

Obviously not a Mopar guy with all the dumb info. Also, what's up with "4406PACK FERRARI PORSCHE BENTLEY" in his title? Do THEY come with the car? Who wants to ask seller a question?   

I almost forgot........he says "Only bid what you are willing to pay." How do I bid the $4000 that I think it's worth? Maybe he was nervous when he was typing and hit the zero one time too many.

Steve

[1969chargerrtse]

Its a really tough market out there and that car has way too many mods from stock to get to dollar. I'd say $25-30K tops.

I think the market is tougher than that. I say 22k tops. 

[Chris G.]

Its a really tough market out there and that car has way too many mods from stock to get to dollar. I'd say $25-30K tops.

Your "tough market" is alot different than mine. Even in a good market that car would have a tough time getting 30K. I'll bet up close that car has some hefty problems.

[Tilar]

Trunk lid doesnt line up, Grill and hood are off but I'm not sure if it's the grill or the hood is sprung. Also this dash. Krylon black with some lipstick red painted where the chrome used to be.

They shoulda sold it at the 20k they were at before.

[Mopar2Ya]

It's worth $100k! 

[Ghoste]

Chris is right, in the naked light of day there will be a ton of flaws on that car that the pics hide.

[Chris G.]

Chris is right,

You had me at Hello. 

But seriously, I am always right some of the time. 

[Ghoste]

At least the three times I agreed with you anyway. 

[moparstuart]

Chris is right,

You had me at Hello. 

But seriously, I am always right some of the time. 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Nice rivets holding down the VIN tag
Dave

Which brings up another interesting point.....
If you look at his old auction...look at the questions answered on the bottom concerning the fender tag codes.....virtual beer to the first one that figures it out.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1969-DODGE-CHARGER-R-T-4406PACK-FERRARI-PORSCHE-BENTLEY_W0QQitemZ230314636428QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item230314636428&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A13|39%3A1|240%3A1318

[tan top]

EN2 should be END & its in the wrong order ..should end with it   & whats V8W2  .. ..he got the extra 2 from somewhere : ..............

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Ummmm...nope

[tan top]

Ummmm...nope

    hmmmm     ..have you got to login to see it ?? Chris

[teamroth]

is it the B41 and B51 next to each other?

[teamroth]

tinted windows? does it also have a code for a valiant or duster? V8W2?

[Chris G.]

The VIN tag and Fender Tag have different sequential numbers?

[tan top]

is it the B41 and B51 next to each other?

hmmmmm close .. thinking  B41 is the code for power discs & B51 is the code for power brakes ,  this would not be on the fender tag as  power brakes are with the disc set up ,  B51 would only be on a power drum brake car   

* Edit *  for get that answer  ..just been doing some home work 

[teamroth]

Damn, Chris I think you got it! I didn't even see that. I wonder if that's it?

[Blown70]

Wow. well nice feeback score too, 66%?  Yea, sign me up for that one......

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

The VIN tag and Fender Tag have different sequential numbers?

Ding ding!  Winner!  Here ya go

Here's the riveted on VIN tag on the dash (as well as the VIN he posted in the auction....)



Here's the fender tag pic he forwarded me (as well as what he typed in the auction)

[teamroth]

isn't that fraud?

[Big Lebowski]

  Well could be, ya.

[vancamp]

He lowered the price from $40,000 to $35,000

[68charger383]

A bunch of sketchy cars being sold on Ebay,

Here was another that was fully restored top to bottom just two short years ago. Must have had a hell of a lot of rumping around with the model in the interior to make it look like that in only 2 years.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BIG-BLOCK-383-PS-PB-AC-CAR-RESTORED-VIDEO-PLUM-CRAZY_W0QQitemZ230316656421QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6199QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[teamroth]

383 R/T? with an XP dash and fender tag code? At least at the top of the ad. He never mentions it again. That trunk looks like they slathered a mop with undercoating through it....

[Chris G.]

I'm guessing the tag is from a parted out car that helped build this one? The guy doing it didn't have a tag for the car, so he just took the one of the parts car and put it on this one not knowing it could be different. I'm sure the 4spd was brought over as well.

The 255187 car was an auto w/AC at some point in life.

[teamroth]

Nice info Chris!

[1969chargerrtse]

A bunch of sketchy cars being sold on Ebay,

Here was another that was fully restored top to bottom just two short years ago. Must have had a hell of a lot of rumping around with the model in the interior to make it look like that in only 2 years.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BIG-BLOCK-383-PS-PB-AC-CAR-RESTORED-VIDEO-PLUM-CRAZY_W0QQitemZ230316656421QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6199QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Waaaaaay to many pictures.  Another car that is sloppy done, with many pictures to show it.

[quapman]

What a shame to paint purple over such a rare color (FT6).

Typical flipper move.

[teamroth]

^^ I would say a scumbag move. Nothing wrong with flipping, as long as you are accurately portraying what's in the car....imho

[quapman]

I should have said "typical non-mopar guy flipper move".

I have mixed opinions on flippers in general. An ex-friend up in NY was King of the flip and a talented LIAR.

S

[BB1]

That is Shawn's doing, he lives here in Missouri. The guy runs around with some scary bondo body boys.
I've been to their shop, and seen first hand how they butcher the cars up then cake on the bondo.
About as good as Hpag does. He sells mostly to overseas people who never see the cars untill they arrive at the dock.

[vancamp]

heres what the phone number in his auction comes back as

A Perfect Finish Body Shop 
  9220 Long Beach Blvd
  South Gate, CA 90280
  Phone: (323) 357-9500

[Mopar2Ya]

Definitions of perfect on the Web:

    * being complete of its kind and without defect or blemish; "a perfect circle"; "a perfect reproduction"; "perfect happiness"; "perfect manners"; "a ...
    * arrant(a): without qualification; used informally as (often pejorative) intensifiers; "an arrant fool"; "a complete coward"; "a consummate fool"; "a double-dyed villain"; "gross negligence"; "a perfect idiot"; "pure folly"; "what a sodding mess"; "stark staring mad"; "a thoroughgoing villain ...
    * perfective: a tense of verbs used in describing action that has been completed (sometimes regarded as perfective aspect)
    * precisely accurate or exact; "perfect timing"

I'm not so sure perfect suits that car.