IS A 69 FIREWALL THE SAME FOR AUTO & 4 SPEED ?

[daytonalo]

 JUST MOCKING UP MY 4 SPEED PEDALS , CAR STARTED OUT AS AN AUTO , DOES ANYONE HAVE A PIC OF THE HOLE THE CLUTCH ROD GOES THROUGH IN FIREWALL ?

LARRY

[tan top]

fire walls are the the same ...  auto cars  have a plastic plug where the clutch rod goes through .... also 4 speed cars have a bracket on the frame rail ,
will look for a picture , think i had these saved somewhere  

edit ... check out this link   

http://www.69hemi.com/brakes/b12.jpg

http://www.69hemi.com

[daytonalo]

Thank you ! I'm well aware of the bracket , the hole in firewall just looked offest from Clutch pedal

[Charger-Bodie]

Thank you ! I'm well aware of the bracket , the hole in firewall just looked offest from Clutch pedal

The hole is offset.......but,So is the rod.

[jerry]

only difference in fire walls is air vs. non air.

[Chatt69chgr]

There is a plate with two studs welded to it that is attached to the firewall on the engine side to the left of the brake attachment bolts.  The studs project through the firewall to the inside of the car and are the fastening point for the clutch pedal bracket assembly.  Automatic cars don't have this bracket and are not drilled for the two studs.  Several places sell the plate/stud piece.  It was spot welded to the firewall from the factory.  You would have to drill the firewall for the two studs.  Don't see any reason to spot weld it.  This is my understanding.  If I'am wrong, I invite corrections. 

[Charger-Bodie]

There is a plate with two studs welded to it that is attached to the firewall on the engine side to the left of the brake attachment bolts.  The studs project through the firewall to the inside of the car and are the fastening point for the clutch pedal bracket assembly.  Automatic cars don't have this bracket and are not drilled for the two studs.  Several places sell the plate/stud piece.  It was spot welded to the firewall from the factory.  You would have to drill the firewall for the two studs.  Don't see any reason to spot weld it.  This is my understanding.  If I'am wrong, I invite corrections. 

You are 100% correct by me.

[daytonalo]

Thank you to all , My car started out as an 70 Charger with manual drum brakes and did have that plate installed from factory and my car was orig an auto trans .  My only question was that the hole was out of alignment with pedal and I was told the rod has an offest , does anyone have a pic of this rod ?

Larry

[Charger-Bodie]

  This pic is from PG Classics.........The link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-70-Mopar-Charger-Roadrunner-4-SPEED-PEDAL-PUSH-ROD_W0QQitemZ110328573492QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item110328573492&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

[daytonalo]

Thanks ,How about a pic of that rod attached to clutch pedal showing rod going through floor ?

[jerry]

there is a reason for the spot welds.

[440]

This pic is from PG Classics.........The link:

Which way does the kink in the push rod go? Any pictures ?

Mine is kinked toward the passenger side and looks wrong, FSM doesn't have enough detail.

Thanks.