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Wrenchin on a Sweet first gen Charger !

Started by firefighter3931, December 10, 2008, 12:22:21 AM

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firefighter3931

Guys, check out this nice ride ; it belongs to a new member and just came out of the paint booth. Denis is a fellow fireman and works on the same department as me and of course i had to help out because it is afterall a sweet Charger and Denis is a great guy.  ;)

The story behind the car ; another firefighter purchased it a few years back in a large salvage operation and this car was one of the lot. The body and substructure is amazingly clean for a Canadian car and didn't require any metalwork ! The paint was badly faded and the brightwork needs some attention but overall it's in excellent shape. It came with a late model 440 that wasn't in very good mechanical shape, unfortunately.

Denis stumbled upon a fresh 440 and made a deal that was too good to pass up. The seller didn't know much about the engine other than it was freshly rebuilt and wasn't even sure if the engine had even been fired. Well, today we fired that badboy up and it was broken in just like it was fresh out of the machineshop. Lots of cam lube, Rotella and EOS and a 30 min breakin cycle at 2500 rpm.  ;)

Overall it went quite well....just a few minor glitches that were easily addressed. After the breakin we pulled the valvecovers and tightened up the pre-load because the valvetrain was noisy. It has a hydraulic flat tappet cam with adjustable rockers and they were slighty loose after the engine warmed up to operating temp. It's idling real nice now but needs some more fine tuning in the spring. Plans are to ditch the stock log manifolds and install a set of headers and 2.5in duals with some good mufflers.  :coolgleamA:

I'm sure we'll be seeing more of Denis around here and i'm sure he'll have lots of questions for you first gen guys.


I know you guys like pics....so here are a few  :2thumbs:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

Hemidog

Man, there's just something about a red 1st gen!  :drool5:

FlatbackFanatic

Flatback Fanatic, Kurt  , MN

Ghoste

Very nice, it looks to be a 66, what was the original drivetrain in it?

Charger-Bodie

Great stuff Ron!.......He's could have his Charger site handle be "Fire Chief" as red as that baby is!!  :brickwall:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

dukeboy_318

1978 Dodge Power Wagon W200 4x4- 408 stroker/4spd
1974 Dodge Dart Swinger. 440 project in the works.

TeeWJay426

 :drool5: :drool5: :drool5:

Red 1st gen with white interior and a 440 under the hood.... doesn't get much better than that! Nice ride- keep the update pics coming, Ron!
74 Charger SE, 400 HP, 4-speed

firefighter3931

Quote from: Ghoste on December 10, 2008, 04:37:50 AM
Very nice, it looks to be a 66, what was the original drivetrain in it?


I think the vin has a J in it somewhere  :scratchchin: not sure what that means ?  ;)




Just kidding....it's a poly 318 car originally.  :D




Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

firefighter3931

Quote from: 1hot68 on December 10, 2008, 08:25:11 AM
Great stuff Ron!.......He's could have his Charger site handle be "Fire Chief" as red as that baby is!!  :brickwall:


Yep, it's RED....very RED  :icon_smile_big: What else would you expect from a Fireman, Brian  :lol:


My 70 r/t is almost the same color.....ya i like red too.  :coolgleamA:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

firefighter3931

Quote from: TeeWJay426 on December 10, 2008, 10:43:55 AM
:drool5: :drool5: :drool5:

Nice ride- keep the update pics coming, Ron!


Will do Tom....it's going to be a gorgous car once Denis finishes all the detail work !  :drool5:

It does need some suspension and brake upgrades....the stock leafs are pretty much flat and that single reservoir master cylinder is not one of my favorites.  :P

Still lots of work to do but he's got it going in the right direction....and now it has 440 power under the hood.  :icon_smile_big:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

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Brock Samson

 NICE!- Fire Chief would be a great handle,.. congrats to Dennis, welcome aboard, she looks well on it's way to being a totally awesome first gen ambassador... with Ron's help of course..  :icon_smile_wink:

tan top

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Todd Wilson

I love the wheels! They really make the car!      :icon_smile_big:



Todd

moparstuart

Quote from: Todd Wilson on December 10, 2008, 02:54:42 PM
I love the wheels! They really make the car!      :icon_smile_big:


    not the wheels it's the red tires  :Twocents:
/quote]
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Steve P.

Very sweeeeeeet...  Love the car and the color. Now for some nice wheels and a set of M/T drag rad.s and she'll be all set...


Welcome to your new family Dennis. You've come to the right place.. Now I know you don't know me yet, but trust me, you WILL be building something nasty to put under that hook if you keep hanging around with Ron..  ;)  We'll be watching........


:cheers:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

R2


BlaineKaiser450

if i had a first gen, it would be that color! with matching interior  :yesnod:
1969 Plymouth Satellite - 440 - 727 - 3.73 - 8 3/4 Suregrip

1993 Dodge W350 Dually

1999 F250 7.3

Big Sugar

Really Nice Ron...is he going to finish painting the tires ?
Nice set of rims and tires should really set that 1st gen off .
Maybe a grill as well  :yesnod:


Ron



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bzabodyn

Damn, that thing is RED!  Looks amazing!  Do me one favor though - no Magnum 500's...

BZ
1969 Dodge Charger R/T - 426 HEMI/4 speed/Track Pack

Mefirst

 :2thumbs: Nice looking ride and also -Welcome to the forum Dennis :cheers:

/Tom


71_deputy

Looking good there Ron!!!!!  yup- lose that single brake setup!!!!!

John Mac
1971 Deputy Challenger 383 4bbl-- 1 of 2 made!!
1967 Charger 440/auto
1973 Road Runner 340/4 speed
2000 1500 Ram Van

66chargertoy

:cheers:Just to start right away, a big thanks to Ron in helping me make sure the engine was broken in the right way. I quess I should feel very lucky to be in the same city and profession as Ron. For the couple of times that we chatted about these beasts, I have come to understand very quickly the amount of knowledge my fellow firefighter brother Ron has. Like he had mentioned in the previous posts, most of the big items are done, now it's the small things that will probably take the longest. As many of you readers are aware of, 1rst generations are unique and also come with the unique challenges,(dash lights, rotating headlights and interior). Will look for a good set of Cragers to set it of properly. But for now, she is going into storage at another firefighter's property till spring (my  wife thinks it takes up to much room in the garage for the winter; havent' figured how to store it into the bedroom yet!!!).
Denis
1966 440 Charger

firefighter3931

Denis, you're more than welcome brother !  :2thumbs:

Looking forward to the spring when we can get back to work on your beast....some good exhaust and engine dress-up goodies are on the way.  ;)



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 13, 2008, 10:10:16 AM
Denis, you're more than welcome brother !  :2thumbs:

Looking forward to the spring when we can get back to work on your beast....some good exhaust and engine dress-up goodies are on the way.  ;)



Ron

Engine dress-up ...Ah man!  :brickwall:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

firefighter3931

Quote from: 1hot68 on December 13, 2008, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 13, 2008, 10:10:16 AM
Denis, you're more than welcome brother !  :2thumbs:

Looking forward to the spring when we can get back to work on your beast....some good exhaust and engine dress-up goodies are on the way.  ;)



Ron



Engine dress-up ...Ah man!  :brickwall:


Relax Brian !  :haha: It's not the end of the world  :D


We're just talking headers and a nice set of MP cast aluminum valvecovers.  :coolgleamA:

The stock VC's are pretty banged up.....the DS cover is caved in 1/2in deep at the rear of the engine.  :smash:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 13, 2008, 11:12:41 AM
Quote from: 1hot68 on December 13, 2008, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 13, 2008, 10:10:16 AM
Denis, you're more than welcome brother !  :2thumbs:

Looking forward to the spring when we can get back to work on your beast....some good exhaust and engine dress-up goodies are on the way.  ;)



Ron



Engine dress-up ...Ah man!  :brickwall:


Relax Brian !  :haha: It's not the end of the world  :D


We're just talking headers and a nice set of MP cast aluminum valvecovers.  :coolgleamA:

The stock VC's are pretty banged up.....the DS cover is caved in 1/2in deep at the rear of the engine.  :smash:



Ron

I was really only kiddin Ron....But, you know me Always like the steathy stock look. :D
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

66chargertoy

One of the problems Ron and I had while breaking the motor in was that the new power steering pump failled. Well, failled would be an understatement. It downright fried!!!!! :fireangry: :fireangry: :fireangry: Shaft had excessive play and the fluid inside was boilling :confused: It even melted the plastic dipstick. Go figure. Had a spare old one lying around, slap it in and works great for now. E-mailed my concerns to the company that I purchased it from, so waiting for an answer.
Denis :rant:
1966 440 Charger

R2

Welcome Denis,,,,Ron is the man........you will have to make the trip to Norwalk this year,,,and hang out with us,,,,,,

I found some pics' on the internet of some red chargers,,,,,,, your car looks great,,,,, Doug








firefighter3931

Quote from: 1hot68 on December 13, 2008, 11:14:20 AM

I was really only kiddin Ron....But, you know me Always like the steathy stock look. :D


Ya, i knew you were only kidding....that's why i added the  :haha: smiley

I just enjoy yanking your "stock appearing/stealth looking" chain  :nana: :D


Quote from: 66chargertoy on December 13, 2008, 03:15:23 PM
One of the problems Ron and I had while breaking the motor in was that the new power steering pump failled. Well, failled would be an understatement. It downright fried!!!!! :fireangry: :fireangry: :fireangry: Shaft had excessive play and the fluid inside was boilling :confused: It even melted the plastic dipstick. Go figure. Had a spare old one lying around, slap it in and works great for now. E-mailed my concerns to the company that I purchased it from, so waiting for an answer.
Denis :rant:


Yep, that was a new one for me too Denis....never seen a PS pump do that before !  :eek2: Keep us up to date on your progress regarding the supplier. These's absolutely no reason why this pump should not be exchanged. It was not assembled properly, period !  :icon_smile_blackeye:


Thanks for the Keiths !  :cheers: 


Quote from: R2 on December 14, 2008, 05:35:52 AM
Welcome Denis,,,,Ron is the man........you will have to make the trip to Norwalk this year,,,and hang out with us,,,,,,

I found some pics' on the internet of some red chargers,,,,,,, your car looks great,,,,, Doug








:icon_smile_big:


Thanks for the pics Doug. Those TT's look great.  :2thumbs: I'm wondering what a set of Tork thrust D's with the dark centers would look like on this car ?  :icon_smile_big: We need DS440 to work some photochop magic   :icon_smile_cool:


Doug, we can't bring Denis to Norwalk....he'll be corrupted forever.  :lol: Next thing ya know a rollbar and slicks will go on the car then the downward spiral will begin !  ;)



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Steve P.

Oh boy!!!  I smell a 572 in the near future........   ""SNIFF SNIFF"" Is that a 605" I'm smelling???   :icon_smile_big:


I think I have a Dana sitting around here too.....   :2thumbs:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

kamkuda

Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 15, 2008, 02:13:28 PM


Doug, we can't bring Denis to Norwalk....he'll be corrupted forever.  :lol: Next thing ya know a rollbar and slicks will go on the car then the downward spiral will begin !  ;)



Ron

Ain't that the truth.
Looks like an awesome car.  I love those 1st Gens

firefighter3931

Some updated photochop pics from our resident expert/wizard DS440....thanks Dave !!!  :2thumbs:

Whatchya think Denis ?  :coolgleamA:  Personally, i like the tork thrust D's with the dark spokes.  :yesnod:


Ron



68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Steve P.

I like all three but I like direct bolt patterns, not uni-lug.  Cragar needs to get back in the business of WHEELS.... 

A set of Billit Specialties, STREET LITE's would be awesome on that car....



Just my .02
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Blown68Coronet

hey whats wrong with a 10 pt cage and slicks? A set of 31x16.5's under there would look killer! :D

How about blasting them rims then puttin on a splash of body color and some period correct dog dishes :drool5:

I'll see ya at the cruise nights Denis. :2thumbs:


Charger-Bodie

Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 16, 2008, 01:45:55 PM
Some updated photochop pics from our resident expert/wizard DS440....thanks Dave !!!  :2thumbs:

Whatchya think Denis ?  :coolgleamA:  Personally, i like the tork thrust D's with the dark spokes.  :yesnod:


Ron






Torq-Thrust D's All the way!!! That looks excellente'
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

66chargertoy

Holy Crap!!!!! What a difference a slick pair of rims does to a car. They look all great Ron, but I'm leaning towards the wheels in the second shot. I just put her away today then off to work which is where I am right now. Thanks for seting this up.
Denis :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
1966 440 Charger

Dodge Don

Denis, looks great. Another car for MoparFest!!

tan top

Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 16, 2008, 01:45:55 PM
Some updated photochop pics from our resident expert/wizard DS440....thanks Dave !!!  :2thumbs:

Whatchya think Denis ?  :coolgleamA:  Personally, i like the tork thrust D's with the dark spokes.  :yesnod:


Ron






:iagree:  dark gray torque thrust 2s look real good  :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

vancamp

Quote from: tan top on December 16, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 16, 2008, 01:45:55 PM
Some updated photochop pics from our resident expert/wizard DS440....thanks Dave !!!  :2thumbs:

Whatchya think Denis ?  :coolgleamA:  Personally, i like the tork thrust D's with the dark spokes.  :yesnod:


Ron






:iagree:  dark gray torque thrust 2s look real good  :yesnod:
:iagree:

kamkuda

Quote from: 66chargertoy on December 16, 2008, 05:35:55 PM
Holy Crap!!!!! What a difference a slick pair of rims does to a car. They look all great Ron, but I'm leaning towards the wheels in the second shot. I just put her away today then off to work which is where I am right now. Thanks for seting this up.
Denis :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

I agree I like the second shot,  But I also like the 10 point cage and slicks.
I was planning on the Torq Thrusts but went with the Center Line Billets when they had a special  There was a SIGNIFICANT improvement in handling