Opinion Time. Front year date plate, or not. Happy thanksgiving to all!

[1969chargerrtse]

Went for an morning errand run this morning (gas, 1.97 for high test  ), and came home thinking would the Charger look better with the front plate off and more original, or the plate on showing the year?  Plate on never helps anyway because the two most questions I get asked (like at the gas pump), where's the flag and what year is it? 
So, for now the plate is off. Thoughts?  And happy Turkey day to you. 

[khojnacki]

Happy Thanksgiving and beautiful car! Personally I hate front plates so... I'd remove it and black out the chrome bolts that held it in place. That being said, she still is stunning.

[69*F5*SE]

Happy Thanksgiving to you too.  As for the plate it looks good either way on your car, with or without.

[skip68]

   I can't decide.  It does look good with or without it. 

[68coronetGLwannabe]

You could put a flag license plate on it  Looks good either way  Happy thanksgiving to all.

[moparstuart]

You could put a flag license plate on it  Looks good eiter way  Happy thanksging to all.

flag plate 

[tommymac]

Looks better with no plate,and bolt black out.IMO In NY I need a plate in front and back.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Rob, ...........you know what plate is supposed to be on the front!!!! The other one issued to you. I don't have any of mine on either!

[1969chargerrtse]

Rob, ...........you know what plate is supposed to be on the front!!!! The other one issued to you. I don't have any of mine on either!

Yeah Ct law, and that ain't happing.    Happy T day buddy.    Thanks for the compliments friends. 
P.S those white spots are the plastic screw retainers, I'll remove them or black them out.  Could also remove the whole plate bracket?

[mikepmcs]

if you do remove the plate bracket, i'll take it so I can put my CNH320 plate on.
Looks fine with the 1969 plate on it to me BTW, looks too empty without it, needs a pushbar to break it up.  Where's the flag?

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

No front plate...... so it doesnt look too much like mine then

[Back N Black]

I like the plate. 

[68charger383]

I like a plate instead of no plate.

How about that black plate with a skull and cross bones, that one looks cool.

[Hemidog]

Which states are you allowed just one plate? I don't quite understand why that's even allowed...

[mikepmcs]

here is your answer.

Many American states are now strictly enforcing laws that require vehicles to display two license plates (on the rear and front of the vehicle).[3] One possible benefit of front license plates is to increase the effectiveness of red-light cameras, which work only if a vehicle can be linked back to its registered owner. Opponents of two license plates usually do not like front plates on certain sports cars and historic cars because of their visual obtrusiveness from the vehicle. (For example, a Car and Driver reader wrote in to the magazine to point out that the Mazda RX8 looks like Bugs Bunny when so equipped.) They argue that they add cost to production, use resources (metal), create double the amount of waste and do not give police any extra tool in recovering stolen vehicles.

California is one of an increasing number of states whose law requiring a front license plate on all vehicles is being petitioned. The petitions are traditionally the result of effort put forth by motorists and car auto enthusiasts who prefer the clean, unobstructed viewing of the front fascia and grille of their vehicle and see little or no practicality in having a front plate on display. Some argue that the presence of a front license plate means unnecessary damage when mounting hardware comes into contact with the bumper of another vehicle. Others argue about whether or the U.S. front plate interferes with the vehicle's cooling system when mounted in the traditional location (versus, for example, a slimmer European plate). Variations on placement include displaying the front plate inside the vehicle between the dash board and front windshield, having both a state-issued and vanity plate insert on display, and having only a vanity plate insert on display. Police officers frequently cite motorists whose vehicles do not comply with California Vehicle Code section 5200, giving the offender the opportunity to correct the offense.

The petition, originally drafted by William Shaw, argues that not having a front plate on display does not interfere with law enforcement and states, "in the 20 or more states that have abolished the front license plate requirement, there is no evidence of a decline in public safety as a result of the plate removal."[4]

In the U.S. states of Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts (most plates issued prior to 1988 - see note below), Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia, license plates are only required on the rear of the vehicle. Some vanity and specialty plates in Arizona and Kansas are issued in pairs, but only the rear plate is required to be displayed; the optional front plate is something of a bonus for paying an extra fee for the plate.

Massachusetts is a unique case for license plate mounting. Before the introduction of the current "Spirit of America" base starting in 1986 for commercial vehicles and vanity plates and 1988 for all other vehicles, the state issued only a single green-on-white plate to be mounted on the rear bumper. With the current-issue base, two plates are issued, to be mounted on both the front and rear bumpers. Since all license plates issued since 1978 are currently valid, most passenger vehicles registered in Massachusetts display two plates, and those with the older green-on-white plates only display one.

[Hemidog]

Well, now I know that 

[1969chargerrtse]

here is your answer.

Many American states are now strictly enforcing laws that require vehicles to display two license plates (on the rear and front of the vehicle).[3] One possible benefit of front license plates is to increase the effectiveness of red-light cameras, which work only if a vehicle can be linked back to its registered owner. Opponents of two license plates usually do not like front plates on certain sports cars and historic cars because of their visual obtrusiveness from the vehicle. (For example, a Car and Driver reader wrote in to the magazine to point out that the Mazda RX8 looks like Bugs Bunny when so equipped.) They argue that they add cost to production, use resources (metal), create double the amount of waste and do not give police any extra tool in recovering stolen vehicles.

California is one of an increasing number of states whose law requiring a front license plate on all vehicles is being petitioned. The petitions are traditionally the result of effort put forth by motorists and car auto enthusiasts who prefer the clean, unobstructed viewing of the front fascia and grille of their vehicle and see little or no practicality in having a front plate on display. Some argue that the presence of a front license plate means unnecessary damage when mounting hardware comes into contact with the bumper of another vehicle. Others argue about whether or the U.S. front plate interferes with the vehicle's cooling system when mounted in the traditional location (versus, for example, a slimmer European plate). Variations on placement include displaying the front plate inside the vehicle between the dash board and front windshield, having both a state-issued and vanity plate insert on display, and having only a vanity plate insert on display. Police officers frequently cite motorists whose vehicles do not comply with California Vehicle Code section 5200, giving the offender the opportunity to correct the offense.

The petition, originally drafted by William Shaw, argues that not having a front plate on display does not interfere with law enforcement and states, "in the 20 or more states that have abolished the front license plate requirement, there is no evidence of a decline in public safety as a result of the plate removal."[4]

In the U.S. states of Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts (most plates issued prior to 1988 - see note below), Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia, license plates are only required on the rear of the vehicle. Some vanity and specialty plates in Arizona and Kansas are issued in pairs, but only the rear plate is required to be displayed; the optional front plate is something of a bonus for paying an extra fee for the plate.

Massachusetts is a unique case for license plate mounting. Before the introduction of the current "Spirit of America" base starting in 1986 for commercial vehicles and vanity plates and 1988 for all other vehicles, the state issued only a single green-on-white plate to be mounted on the rear bumper. With the current-issue base, two plates are issued, to be mounted on both the front and rear bumpers. Since all license plates issued since 1978 are currently valid, most passenger vehicles registered in Massachusetts display two plates, and those with the older green-on-white plates only display one.

  How the heck do you know all this?

[Hemidog]

Either he has a really good memory, or; ctrl-c -> ctrl-v 

[68coronetGLwannabe]

The perfect vintage Dodge plate.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VINTAGE-1970S-DODGE-LICENSE-PLATE-SUPER-BEE-CHARGER_W0QQitemZ250332967717QQihZ015QQcategoryZ140708QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[mikepmcs]

actually i stumbled across this after hemi asked his question cause i was curious to see the states that are cool enough to allow one plate.
I still only run one plate here in maine on my classics, the fuzz doesn't bother too much with older cars.

and i actually held the left click down on the mouse, highlighted the area i wanted right clicked and selected copy, then right clicked and hit paste in the reply here.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_United_States

on another note, i am the smartest man in the world, a legend in my own mind, if you will.

[Ghoste]

I like the year plate.

[69_500]

Or if you are in an odd ball state like Missouri, then you can go like Gene does with only a plate on the front of a truck, but no plate on the back. Go figure that one out. 

It is one of the good things about living in Indiana, and that we only have to have 1 plate on all the cars.

[tan top]

The perfect vintage Dodge plate.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VINTAGE-1970S-DODGE-LICENSE-PLATE-SUPER-BEE-CHARGER_W0QQitemZ250332967717QQihZ015QQcategoryZ140708QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

never seen one like that before 

[hemigeno]

Or if you are in an odd ball state like Missouri, then you can go like Gene does with only a plate on the front of a truck, but no plate on the back. Go figure that one out. 

It is one of the good things about living in Indiana, and that we only have to have 1 plate on all the cars.

Missouri is different, no doubt!

Regular passenger car, truck and vanity plates are currently front and back both. 

However...  Truck plates over 12,000lbs are for the front only - supposedly because the only way they would be legally hauling that much weight would be with a trailer attached (which obscures the rear plate anyway).

Antique/Historic plates are issued for the front and back as well - UNLESS you have Year-Of-Manufacture historic plates, in which case it goes by the laws in effect the year your car was made.  For 1969, Missouri only used a rear plate on passenger cars.  So, I don't legally have to run two plates on the R/T, and I'm really glad I won't have to mount a license plate bracket on the Daytona's nosecone... 

Even though I don't have to run a front license plate, I still keep the year plate on the R/T.

[1969chargerrtse]

How about Ct?  I can have RT.SE on a regular CT plate on my Honda Pilot.  I also can have RT.SE on our antique plate for the Charger?  Meaning 2 different cars can have the same letters and numbers.  Thing is that the antique plate is part of a program for cars 25 years or older and then max value for the car to be taxed on is 500.00 instead of the real classic value of 30 or 40 grand.