C500 wheel options

[C500]

I plan on having a few different wheels available to put on the C500. What were the options available? Does anyone have a similar graphic to the 68 one posted here but for 69 please. I've searched the site and couldn't find anything.

Thanks, Dunk

[moparstuart]

Date wise i know not many 500 could have gotten the recall wheel but they look the best.  They are what i'm puttin on my 500 .

[C500]

i know not many could have gotten the recall wheel but they look the best.  they are what i'm puttin on my 500 .

yeah, I've gotta agree, the recalls do look superb 

[PocketThunder]

i know not many could have gotten the recall wheel but they look the best.  they are what i'm puttin on my 500 .

yeah, I've gotta agree, the recalls do look superb 

Dunk, when was your car built?

[hemigeno]

Here's the page from the '69 Dealer Data Book (shamelessly swiped from Chris' '69 Charger Registry site   )

[C500]

i know not many could have gotten the recall wheel but they look the best.  they are what i'm puttin on my 500 .

yeah, I've gotta agree, the recalls do look superb 

Dunk, when was your car built?

I'm not sure Paul. Won't see the car until next week when I'll check the fender tag, but vin ends in 210711. Does this help?

[C500]

Here's the page from the '69 Dealer Data Book (shamelessly swiped from Chris' '69 Charger Registry site   )

Thanks Geno, brilliant!! That brings the next question...are the dog dish caps identical for both 14 and 15 inch wheels (i'm guessing they are). I'm thinking of running a set of 14 inch wheels that will fit both the dog dish caps or the bullitt style W15 covers, plus a set of 15 inch magnums. That will offer 3 nice variations. I'm interested if any of these combinations would have come on a C500.

Just noticed, the Kelsey hayes wheels and the hemi disc covers are not an option listed 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Here's the page from the '69 Dealer Data Book (shamelessly swiped from Chris' '69 Charger Registry site   )

No shame Geno!  Thanks for the plug

The full manual here....

http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/gallery/facts

More stuff on the site
www.1969chargerregistry.com


PS---the dog dishes are the same for 14 & 15"

[C500]

Here's the page from the '69 Dealer Data Book (shamelessly swiped from Chris' '69 Charger Registry site   )

No shame Geno!  Thanks for the plug

The full manual here....

http://www.1969chargerregistry.com/gallery/facts

More stuff on the site
www.1969chargerregistry.com


PS---the dog dishes are the same for 14 & 15"

Thanks Chris 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Here's the page from the '69 Dealer Data Book (shamelessly swiped from Chris' '69 Charger Registry site   )

Just noticed, the Kelsey hayes wheels and the hemi disc covers are not an option listed 

Funny that you say that...my "repro" copy of the facts & Features manual show the 15" wheel covers....almost looks like it was "modified" after the recall of the Kelsey Hayes wheel

[69_500]

Side note here to kiwi, but your car was built on November 14th if I"m not mistaken. And that was the day that they started to actually put XX on the fender tags on the 500's. Some on B14 say XX others still say XS.
I believe yours was XX.

[hemigeno]

Here's the page from the '69 Dealer Data Book (shamelessly swiped from Chris' '69 Charger Registry site   )

Thanks Geno, brilliant!! That brings the next question...are the dog dish caps identical for both 14 and 15 inch wheels (i'm guessing they are). I'm thinking of running a set of 14 inch wheels that will fit both the dog dish caps or the bullitt style W15 covers, plus a set of 15 inch magnums. That will offer 3 nice variations. I'm interested if any of these combinations would have come on a C500.

Glad to help out.  As for your 3 variations, the dog dish caps with 14" body-color steel wheels were definitely available, as were the W15 covers - although the 14" steel wheels would have been painted black with that option.  The spare tire would have been painted to match the other 4 wheels on-the-ground, whatever color that would have been - black or body.

Magnum (a/k/a W21 Road Wheels) would have been available, but not in a 15" variety.  On Mopar products, those only came in 14" - and in 1969 they came with a brushed stainess steel trim ring rather than a chromed rim like 1968.

I honestly don't know if you could order a non-hemi-equipped Charger with 15" steel wheels, and I've thought about this some over the past several years.  I've gone through the paperwork I have looking for an answer to this, and haven't found anything that says definitively either way.  When the W23 cast wheels were available, I know it WAS possible - but whether that possibility continued after the W23 option was eliminated in early September is not clear.  A 440 car with Sales Code W25 steel wheels would normally have been given 14" wheels.  If no wheel cover option was specified, it would have been 14" with dog dish caps.  If the W11 wheel covers were spec'd, I think they would have assumed it to be 14" with the "deluxe" wheel covers that look more like they belong on a 4-door Dart.  About the only distinction that could have been made on a new car sales order sheet would have been if a 15" tire was ordered (e.g. Sales Code U65 rather than T83).

Just noticed, the Kelsey hayes wheels and the hemi disc covers are not an option listed 

The W23 Kelsey Hayes "recall" wheels are listed in the earlier version of the Data Book at the bottom of the page.  To be honest, I hadn't noticed what Chris just pointed out, that the later repro copy of the same page has the reference to the W23 wheels removed and the W11 wheel covers inserted (poorly).  Interesting...  

[C500]

Side note here to kiwi, but your car was built on November 14th if I"m not mistaken. And that was the day that they started to actually put XX on the fender tags on the 500's. Some on B14 say XX others still say XS.
I believe yours was XX.

yes, mine is XX. thanks for the build date info...it's her birthday tomorrow....better bake a cake!

I know the 68 and 69's have different info on the tag, so I'm about to learn a few new things. 
I also noticed the fender tag has a little wee tag under one side. I think it has something like 5 or 15 stamped on it. Got me stumped, and will post a pic if nobody knows what it's all about. Unfortunately the tag had been riveted back on, need to locate some tag screws (I'm anal about some of these things being right)

[C500]

Here's the page from the '69 Dealer Data Book (shamelessly swiped from Chris' '69 Charger Registry site   )

Thanks Geno, brilliant!! That brings the next question...are the dog dish caps identical for both 14 and 15 inch wheels (i'm guessing they are). I'm thinking of running a set of 14 inch wheels that will fit both the dog dish caps or the bullitt style W15 covers, plus a set of 15 inch magnums. That will offer 3 nice variations. I'm interested if any of these combinations would have come on a C500.

Glad to help out.  As for your 3 variations, the dog dish caps with 14" body-color steel wheels were definitely available, as were the W15 covers - although the 14" steel wheels would have been painted black with that option.  The spare tire would have been painted to match the other 4 wheels on-the-ground, whatever color that would have been - black or body.

Magnum (a/k/a W21 Road Wheels) would have been available, but not in a 15" variety.  On Mopar products, those only came in 14" with a brushed stainess steel trim ring.

I honestly don't know if you could order a non-hemi-equipped Charger with 15" steel wheels, and I've thought about this some over the past several years.  I've gone through the paperwork I have looking for an answer to this, and haven't found anything that says definitively either way.  When the W23 cast wheels were available, I know it WAS possible - but whether that possibility continued after the W23 option was eliminated in early September is not clear.  A 440 car with Sales Code W25 steel wheels would normally have been given 14" wheels.  If no wheel cover option was specified, it would have been 14" with dog dish caps.  If the W11 wheel covers were spec'd, I think they would have assumed it to be 14" with the "deluxe" wheel covers that look more like they belong on a 4-door Dart.  About the only distinction that could have been made on a new car sales order sheet would have been if a 15" tire was ordered (e.g. Sales Code U65 rather than T83).

Just noticed, the Kelsey hayes wheels and the hemi disc covers are not an option listed 

The W23 Kelsey Hayes "recall" wheels are listed in the earlier version of the Data Book at the bottom of the page.  To be honest, I hadn't noticed what Chris just pointed out, that the later repro copy of the same page has the reference to the W23 wheels removed and the W11 wheel covers inserted (poorly).  Interesting...  

Thanks again Geno. The knowledge and willingness to help from members on this site is incredible...........

[hemigeno]

I also noticed the fender tag has a little wee tag under one side. I think it has something like 5 or 15 stamped on it. Got me stumped, and will post a pic if nobody knows what it's all about. Unfortunately the tag had been riveted back on, need to locate some tag screws (I'm anal about some of these things being right)

That little tag you're talking about is where the Inspector signed off on that car at Hamtramck.  At that plant, they used the small little metal strip you are asking about - whereas at the St. Louis assembly plant they used something like a hole punch on the fender tag itself.  It was from where the car was signed off on by one of the final inspectors after the assembly process was completed.

Some Hamtramck cars still have their inspector's tag, some do not.  The strip was prone to breaking off right at the fender tag's edge, so sometimes all that is left is a small remnant/piece right under the left Fender Tag screw. 

[UFO]

The W23 Kelsey Hayes "recall" wheels are listed in the earlier version of the Data Book at the bottom of the page.  To be honest, I hadn't noticed what Chris just pointed out, that the later repro copy of the same page has the reference to the W23 wheels removed and the W11 wheel covers inserted (poorly).  Interesting...  

You guys got me checking my data book, I have the full wheelcovers like the facts page Chris posted but it is definitely not done poorly.
Yet the page with the charger 500 has the recall wheels,talk about messing with the sales people.

[69_500]

I can't think of all the different numbers that I've seen on inspection tags, but there seems to be quite a few varieties.

[WingCharger]

Recalls are the only wheels I would ever put on a 500

[C500]

Recalls are the only wheels I would ever put on a 500

They do look great, but there aren't many around. There's a set on ebay, but the price isn't exactlly cheap. The sellers England isn't too flash link

[moparstuart]

Recalls are the only wheels I would ever put on a 500

they do look great, but there aren't many around. There's a set on ebay, but the price isn't exactlly cheap link

they repop them but your right they aint cheap  !!!   http://www.specialtywheelsltd.org/chrysler-wheels.html

[UFO]

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the chrome rims sold as aftermarket wheels vs the black rims as Chrysler parts?

[Ghoste]

Which black and chrome ones are you referring to?  If it's the ones shown in this thread from the factory data guide, those were all available from the assembly plant.  Of course the recall ones weren't available for long, but.

[UFO]

I meant the ones in the ebay link,they do not use a trim ring.Well the 15x7 is a giveaway that they're aftermarket.

[Ghoste]

Ahh, sorry.

[moparstuart]

a buddy of mine has a set of factory recalls , with correct penastars on the back with #'s

  he says they made a plymouth wheel and a dodge wheel , diffent size center caps.  Any one know which is which ?   He has two dodge and two plymouths ?

[Ghoste]

I've never heard that one before?  What would be the rationale behind it seeing as how both cars would have the same dust caps for the front and axles on the rear?

[69_500]

I've never heard anything about a dodge and a plymouth version of the W23 wheels. Although I must admit that I don't pay that much attention to what was available on a Plymouth in 69 as I do to the Dodge's in 69.

I know that I saw a very nice set for sale a few years back, but man were they pricey. I know of an individual who would also be very interested in a set of NOS center caps to the W23 wheels.

[moparstuart]

There is so little info on these wheels he has not been able to find anything on it either ,but the wheels are for sure original recalls

[Ghoste]

Has he personally verified that the center caps are different or is this just something he's "heard"?

[moparstuart]

Has he personally verified that the center caps are different or is this just something he's "heard"?

they are totally different design and fit , hole is different size , but does have all the correct chrysler markings , He has had them for a long time used to run them on his daytona years ago .

[UFO]

http://wwnboa.org/khw.htm
Answers a few questions.

[moparstuart]

http://wwnboa.org/khw.htm
Answers a few questions.

yes but his are all 4 the trim ring type wheel , not the aftermarket chrome edged style wheel ?

[UFO]

Both pics on that link have trim rings just different center caps.

[moparstuart]

sorry i didnt look at that and oh BTW those are the exact wheels i was taking about wayne perkins wheels  LOL  I JUST NOTICE SUE COMMENT ABOUT THE PHOTOGRAPHER


  He had them on his daytona and are now slated for his charger 500 on day .

[69_500]

It could be me, and I could be wrong but the photo I have of a 500 that is a early pic IE 1968, has the W23 wheels with the pointed center cap. Not the flush one.

[Ghoste]

I'd like to know more about the Dodge and Plymouth version thing.  I find that interesting too.

[pettybird]

I know that I saw a very nice set for sale a few years back, but man were they pricey.

was that the dave jones set?  they seem kinda cheap by today's standards! 

[69_500]

I know that I saw a very nice set for sale a few years back, but man were they pricey.

was that the dave jones set?  they seem kinda cheap by today's standards! 

No actually they were a set that was in illinois, about 3 years ago. I think the asking price at the time was $7,500 for the set of 4. There was another set with tires on it for sale a few years back too. I think I still have a photo of them as a set.

[Rat Exterminator]

I've also posted in the brakes/wheels section but I bought a set of the repops for my 500 and they won't fit over the newer 73 style rotors because the hub is slightly larger. any suggestions? don't think I want to machine the opening larger in the wheels because it might weaken them, could the hubs be turned down on the rotors? or what are the chances of finding a set of 69 rotors, calipers, etc. I think even the spindles and the backing plates are different plus they are more susceptible to problems I've read.  also if I get that problem solved will there be any other issues such as caliper clearance?  Thanks Greg