Trade my Charger for a Daytona clone? What do you think?

[1969chargerrtse]

Let's start with, I HAVE NO MONEY, but  I do have a deep deep passion to own a Daytona, since as long as my obsession to own a 69 Charger, since 1969.  So here's the thought.  I have 40k in my RT/SE.  I'm not claiming it's worth that, but that is what's in it.  "If" I was to find someone who started a Daytona clone, or has one, what do you think would be the positive or negative side of doing a trade should that person agree.  Hey there can be someone out there that is almost done and lost heart or finance's, and would love a sharp done (mostly) RTSE with options.
So I ask you, forget the trade thought for now, what do you think of clones , or their value?  I hope to get lots of input here.  What started this is I went over someones house today and saw their driver quality Super Bird.  I love Birds, but I love the Daytons rear and nose even more.
I just don't have the heart or money to convert a rare RTSE into a Daytona since Daytons's couldn't be an RTSE anyway that year, and I don't want to waste the rarity of the SE option.  If that makes sense since the car would be all incorrect anyway.
Bring it on.

[Ghoste]

If the clone is done really well then it stands on it's own as far as investment.  Obviously it doesn't reach the price of an original but this isn't really about investment or even originality is it?  This is about satisfying a "deep deep passion to own a Daytona".  If you can't afford a real one then the clone may be more than just the next best thing, it'll also be a car you can drive and enjoy.
You are right to leave the RT/SE as is and if investment is the pure motivator then it is the car you should finish.  If having fun driving and satisfying an old itch is your bag, it's time for a wing clone! 

[68charger383]

Go for it. A clone is cool. 

+ with a clone, you'll get to enjoy the car...can't see that many real ones driving around and depreciating that $100-$150K value.

[69*F5*SE]

I'm more partial to what you already have     Ted

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Let's start with, I HAVE NO MONEY, but  I do have a deep deep passion to own a Daytona, since as long as my obsession to own a 69 Charger, since 1969.  So here's the thought.  I have 40k in my RT/SE.  I'm not claiming it's worth that, but that is what's in it.  "If" I was to find someone who started a Daytona clone, or has one, what do you think would be the positive or negative side of doing a trade should that person agree.  Hey there can be someone out there that is almost done and lost heart or finance's, and would love a sharp done (mostly) RTSE with options.
So I ask you, forget the trade thought for now, what do you think of clones , or their value?  I hope to get lots of input here.  What started this is I went over someones house today and saw their driver quality Super Bird.  I love Birds, but I love the Daytons rear and nose even more.
I just don't have the heart or money to convert a rare RTSE into a Daytona since Daytons's couldn't be an RTSE anyway that year, and I don't want to waste the rarity of the SE option.  If that makes sense since the car would be all incorrect anyway.
Bring it on.

Keep what ya got.....

PS---They made Daytona SE's as well

[1969chargerrtse]

Let's start with, I HAVE NO MONEY, but  I do have a deep deep passion to own a Daytona, since as long as my obsession to own a 69 Charger, since 1969.  So here's the thought.  I have 40k in my RT/SE.  I'm not claiming it's worth that, but that is what's in it.  "If" I was to find someone who started a Daytona clone, or has one, what do you think would be the positive or negative side of doing a trade should that person agree.  Hey there can be someone out there that is almost done and lost heart or finance's, and would love a sharp done (mostly) RTSE with options.
So I ask you, forget the trade thought for now, what do you think of clones , or their value?  I hope to get lots of input here.  What started this is I went over someones house today and saw their driver quality Super Bird.  I love Birds, but I love the Daytons rear and nose even more.
I just don't have the heart or money to convert a rare RTSE into a Daytona since Daytons's couldn't be an RTSE anyway that year, and I don't want to waste the rarity of the SE option.  If that makes sense since the car would be all incorrect anyway.
Bring it on.

Keep what ya got.....

PS---They made Daytona SE's as well

They did?  I thought they didn't?
I called my friend with the Bird.  He's been into these cars for decades.  He said, Keep what ya got.....
He also said he's never seen a good clone yet, and anyone that is done correct would have way to much into it to trade.
He ended with you have a real RT/SE and you want to swap it for a made up something car?  Hmmmmm
I probably will keep what I have , as I HAVE NO MONEY, but I'd love to hear thoughts anyway.  One thing is, does knowing it's a clone bother the clone owners?
Does people asking all the time if it's a clone bother you?

[Mike DC]

 
I think it pays to ask yourself just what kind of "Daytona" you're really in love with.

If you're in love with a big loud Dodge Charger wearing a nosecone and a wing, that's one thing. 
If you're in love with every little detail & quirk of the original Creative Industries conversions from the summer of 1969, that's another thing. 



Same thing applies to the original RT/SE Charger you've got. 

To some people an original RT/SE is the goal itself.  If they couldn't have an original RT/SE, then they'd rather have a perfect clone RT/SE than a more valuable Charger built some other way. 

For other guys, the original RT/SE numbers are just a nuisance giving them a disincentive against modifying it like they want to. 

[1969chargerrtse]

 
I think it pays to ask yourself just what kind of "Daytona" you're really in love with.

If you're in love with a big loud Dodge Charger wearing a nosecone and a wing, that's one thing. 
If you're in love with every little detail & quirk of the original Creative Industries conversions from the summer of 1969, that's another thing. 



Same thing applies to the original RT/SE Charger you've got. 

To some people an original RT/SE is the goal itself.  If they couldn't have an original RT/SE, then they'd rather have a perfect clone RT/SE than a more valuable Charger built some other way. 

For other guys, the original RT/SE numbers are just a nuisance giving them a disincentive against modifying it like they want to. 

All good points and I knew you would have them. I'd have to say an original RT/SE was my all time dream.  I guess like most Muscle car gear heads we want it all.   The Hemi and Daytona were just out of my league in my mind, and a True 69 Charger RT/SE did it for me.  My true dream was a T5 4spd RTSE.  White top, stripe and interior.
Pictures anyone to help me get off my Daytona dreaming?
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE what I have, I still just stare at it in these hard times and am so grateful to have it period.

[TUFCAT]

Rob, even though you say it - - It doesn't sound like you're very happy with what you have?     It looks great to us,  of course that's 40 large not withstanding.

[mikesbbody]

this is kinda tough for me...on one hand i can understand the guy's saying "keep what you have its awesome" because it is but do you like the daytona that much more? (albeit a clone) i have no problems with clones its when they are passed off as the real thing i get 

[SFRT]

get whichever one youd drive faster.

cool thing about a clone is you can thrash if you want without offending the Mopar Gods.

[1969chargerrtse]

Rob, even though you say it - - It doesn't sound like you're very happy with what you have?     It looks great to us,  of course that's 40 large not withstanding.

Sometimes I'm thrilled, and sometimes like yesterday when I'm repairing stuff again I'm not.  Keep in mind what I've been through.  You don't really want to go back to my first threads and read about all the pains do you?    None of this came out of not being happy with the car, I started it today after replacing the leaky exhaust gaskets and re gooping the exhaust head studs and it sounded great.  I stepped back and looked at it , and WOW,  what a beautiful car.  After seeing my friends worn but original Superbird 440 6 pack 4spd car, with that awesome wing Can you blame a guy for saying to himself, Man I gotta get one of these.  I Think Mike hit it on the head, what was so wonderful about his car was that it is a real Plymouth built SuperBird and as I've been thinking about it I don't think a clone will do it for me.  Love all the input though.

[nakita7]

A question dear to my own heart, as I am actively looking to buy a 69 R/T or a Wing Car clone (I like both equally) myself. I'm trying to put myself in your shoes, and imagine if I would trade. To be honest, I would only trade if the clone is absolutely correct. I personally don't like clones that are half-baked. The rear window in the Daytona would have to be done. Also, a metal wing and/or nose would be nice. Now, having that said, I am only talking external. I want my clone to have a 318, 5.7L or something like that, as I would literally drive it everyday. Interior, could go either way, but I know 70 Charger buckets are way nicer than 69 ones!

You have a cool car, but a Wing Car is extremely cool too, and why buy a real one? A good looking clone is just as cool, in my books. If you find one, go for it! 

[BigBlockSam]

This is about satisfying a "deep deep passion to own a Daytona"

a wing car is special , real , replica. there special . i restored my 68 triple black charger r/t. it's all  #"S matching too . i also built a very correct daytona replica . if i had to get rid of one , the 68 r/t would go . i've wanted to own a wing car for most of my life . i couldn't afford one so i built me one and to me it's as real as any daytona . i've driven the wheels off of it this year
and-------------------------------luving it . Rene

[1969chargerrtse]

This is about satisfying a "deep deep passion to own a Daytona"

a wing car is special , real , replica. there special . i restored my 68 triple black charger r/t. it's all  #"S matching too . i also built a very correct daytona replica . if i had to get rid of one , the 68 r/t would go . i've wanted to own a wing car for most of my life . i couldn't afford one so i built me one and to me it's as real as any daytona . i've driven the wheels off of it this year
and-------------------------------luving it . Rene

Can we get a picture or two?  You would be the one to answer the questions.  Going places or to shows knowing it's a clone, people asking about it, no problem?  I take it the beauty of it makes it all O.K?

[Ghoste]

Actually, I think you are the only one who can really answer those questions.  Would YOU be okay with a clone.  (I have a feeling you already have cold feet about the clone thing)

[Back N Black]

A clone is just a couple of different digits on the dash, if you can get over that, a clone will look just as good and go as fast as  a xx car.   

[69_500]

Ah see if your having cold feet about thinking of going the clone route, go the route I went. If you can't afford a Daytona, simply pick up a Charger 500. Next best thing to a Daytona, and they have the nice rear window your speaking off. Just missing the nose and the wing.

[BigBlockSam]

an we get a picture or two?  You would be the one to answer the questions.  Going places or to shows knowing it's a clone, people asking about it, no problem?  I take it the beauty of it makes it all O.K?

people are always asking questions . the thing with a replica is to make it as correct as possible . so even the purists will give you a little respect . most people just stare and go , wow what a car . some ask if it's a real daytona. i always say yes but it's not a factory daytona .  all the feedback i've gotten  about the car has been great . no haters yet. check out this thread it will show you a lot of pics of my build . i have to post some newer pics . Rene

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,47471.0.html

[A383Wing]

Rene...I see you also have the optional "security system" installed

[1969chargerrtse]

Ah see if your having cold feet about thinking of going the clone route, go the route I went. If you can't afford a Daytona, simply pick up a Charger 500. Next best thing to a Daytona, and they have the nice rear window your speaking off. Just missing the nose and the wing.

I think you missed the " I HAVE NO MONEY" part.  500's gotta be big bucks.

[Ghoste]

You know what, I get the wanting a Daytona and not having any money part and I also get the disappointment when you are fixing the RT.  But, the fixing part will never go away and money, well, who knows?  I think you you should stick with the RT because unless you were really lusting after a Daytona (which I don't think you are) clone or not, you would regret letting go of what you have now.  I think you've formed a bond with the car.  After all, isn't the name of your website CARSNOTFORSALE?

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

After all, isn't the name of your website CARSNOTFORSALE?

maybe he just keeps telling himself that?

[1969chargerrtse]

You know what, I get the wanting a Daytona and not having any money part and I also get the disappointment when you are fixing the RT.  But, the fixing part will never go away and money, well, who knows?  I think you you should stick with the RT because unless you were really lusting after a Daytona (which I don't think you are) clone or not, you would regret letting go of what you have now.  I think you've formed a bond with the car.  After all, isn't the name of your website CARSNOTFORSALE?

And I think you are 100% correct.  I think seeing that ole bird just got me jumping a bit.  I do love that car, and the fixing stuff is o.k sometimes, and sometimes not.  I think I'm just getting lazy in my old age.  Took her out for a couple short trips today and I felt like a million bucks.   

[1969chargerrtse]

an we get a picture or two?  You would be the one to answer the questions.  Going places or to shows knowing it's a clone, people asking about it, no problem?  I take it the beauty of it makes it all O.K?

people are always asking questions . the thing with a replica is to make it as correct as possible . so even the purists will give you a little respect . most people just stare and go , wow what a car . some ask if it's a real daytona. i always say yes but it's not a factory daytona .  all the feedback i've gotten  about the car has been great . no haters yet. check out this thread it will show you a lot of pics of my build . i have to post some newer pics . Rene

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,47471.0.html

Thanks for the pictures and link.  I read all the pages and watched the you tube clip.  I must say there is more work into the conversation then I thought.  It also made me realize I WANT ONE!!  But I think I'll just hang on to what I have for now.  Thanks again and the car looks great.  Nice job.

[69_500]

The cost of the 500's isn't too much different than the cost of a nice RT/SE. I was simply saying if your that tired of the RT/SE and wanted to step up to the aero car then the 500 would be the way to go. Believe me I know all about being short on money. I've wanted a Daytona since well since I don't remember ever not wanting one. One of these days though I'll have one.

[69bronzeT5]

Rob, I love your car. I'd keep it.

[BigBlockSam]

Thanks again and the car looks great.  Nice job.