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Would you buy a Super Bee or Charger?

Started by 375instroke, November 05, 2008, 01:11:31 AM

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375instroke

I saw on Craigslist an '69 Super Bee and '69 Charger.  I want both, but already have 4 cars and no room.  Which would you choose?




69bronzeT5

I already have a '69 Charger so I'd take the '69 Superbee BUT due to the shape of the Superbee, I'd take the Charger.
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

nakita7

Personally, I think the Bee is overpriced and I have looked at that Charger ad, a bit overpriced, would go $10K max.

Ghoste

The Charger.  ( it's one of those "I thought she was cute until I met her supermodel sister" things)

WingCharger

I love '69 Super Bees. They are in my top 5.

Charger-Bodie

68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

69*F5*SE


skip68

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Scatpack

Super Bee for me, although i have had several Chargers in the past and love them too. The Super Bee was the flagship of the Scatpack.
They are both at least 5k over priced tho
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FJ6N96

I am a little partial to the Super Bee, plus the Charger is just a plain jane not an R/T.  I agree that they are over priced.

FJ6N96


PocketThunder

which ever one isnt green or brown  :yesnod:   :yesnod:  ...... oh wait  :brickwall:
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Finn

That charger has been floating around for a while, would have thought it had sold by now. I don't think 14 is far from what it could get so something sounds a little fishy but then again it might just be the market is that down right now.
Definitely check it out in person first. :Twocents:
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moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

sunroofblacklee

I just sold my 69 bee to keep my 69 charger.
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69bronzeT5

Was that a real A12 Bee or a clone? GREAT looking car. :cheers:
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

sunroofblacklee

It was a real A12 in original paint.  Needed allot of metal work, rear frame rails, and trunk, lower quarters. I sold a nice 383 bee to buy this one off my dad and was going to sell my charger and keep this bee.  Decided I liked my charger a little more and decided to sell the A12 and keep my triple black charger.  I also needed to pay a loan off quickly and this was the easiest way to come up with some quick money. The way my charger was sitting I wouldn't off gotten very much out of it. 
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Ghoste

Quote from: Scatpack on November 05, 2008, 10:23:41 AM
The Super Bee was the flagship of the Scatpack.

I think I'd have to very much disagree with you there my friend.  Just look at the advertising budget put into the Charger and the amount of magazine articles written about the Charger versus the Super Bee and the Coronet RT put together.  Not to mention which car more typically went to factory race teams.

Silver R/T

I have charger, so super bee for me, especially I dont like 69 grille
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nelson_audet

i love the bee.. but no esitation.. buy the charger:)
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kidsixpack

69 1/2 Super Bee V2 buckets console 4spd with radio delete.
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68charger383

I'd go with the Bee.........that is if you already own a charger.
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375instroke

I like the Bee because it's a '69, and Air Grabber.  I don't like Coronet bulge hoods.  The Charger would be a good candidate for a stroker/5-speed R/T clone.  I wouldn't want to cut up a real R/T.  Glad you guys think they are overpriced.  I see cars like mid '70s 4-door Slant 6 Darts asking $5000 and think WTF, I'll never afford a Charger again.  In '91, I had a '68 Charger R/T, completely rust free, shiny original paint, no dents, perfect interior except for sail panel parts of the head liner, bad vinyl top, and non-original 440.  All I could get for it was $4000.  I had a bunch of $2000 to $3000 offers.  One month later, I saw a '68 318 Charger in similar condition to mine, but was hit in the passenger door, and they wanted $8000.  I see the asking prices for total pieces of crap, and get a distorted idea of the market.  Look at this thing:



Dans 68

1973 SE 400 727  1 of 19,645                                        1968 383 4bbl 4spds  2 of 259

Ghoste

The Dart wagon is "pimpin" and purple, that's why it's 25 grand.  I still like the Charger better.  :nana:

TeeWJay426

The Charger is in better shape than the Bee..... for the same money, I'd go for that based on condition. Didn't notice what the drivetrain in the Charger was though... if it's a 318, I'd also agree with the general sentiment that they are both 10K$ cars, not 15.
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41husk

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1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

PocketThunder

Damn!  Good idea to use that small floor joist for a shelf support beam..  :yesnod:

I build my shelves with 2x4 frames and small kickers..  My next garage just might get this floor joist idea..

Paul

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sunroofblacklee

Quote from: PocketThunder on November 06, 2008, 11:58:59 AM
Damn!  Good idea to use that small floor joist for a shelf support beam..  :yesnod:

I build my shelves with 2x4 frames and small kickers..  My next garage just might get this floor joist idea..

Paul




When they brought the metal siding over for the garage they used these floor joist to lay the metal on.  They left the floor joist and never picked them up.  We had tons of them, gave a bunch to my cousin as he was building a house and saved him a bunch of money. The rest we used as shelfs through out the garage, worked real nice and where able to put some pretty heavy stuff up there.
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BB1

Here was my old bee, with optional black scoops and hood pins. 383 4-speed
Matching numbers 100% original
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sunroofblacklee

Quote from: BB1 on November 06, 2008, 01:36:47 PM
Here was my old bee, with optional black scoops and hood pins. 383 4-speed

Cool bee, the black hood scoops was a neat option.  I always thought they came body colored and hated when I saw them painted black. When I found out they actually could of came that way I like them black now.  Was it vo2 black painted roof car also?
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BB1

No it had a ripped off black vinyl top. Pictures are from 1987.
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BigBlockSam

i have both superbee and chargers . there both great cars . i would go with the one thats in better condition . plus talk them down a couple of thousands .  Rene
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pettyfan43

Quote from: 375instroke on November 05, 2008, 11:42:42 PM
I like the Bee because it's a '69, and Air Grabber.  I don't like Coronet bulge hoods.  The Charger would be a good candidate for a stroker/5-speed R/T clone.  I wouldn't want to cut up a real R/T.  Glad you guys think they are overpriced.  I see cars like mid '70s 4-door Slant 6 Darts asking $5000 and think WTF, I'll never afford a Charger again.  In '91, I had a '68 Charger R/T, completely rust free, shiny original paint, no dents, perfect interior except for sail panel parts of the head liner, bad vinyl top, and non-original 440.  All I could get for it was $4000.  I had a bunch of $2000 to $3000 offers.  One month later, I saw a '68 318 Charger in similar condition to mine, but was hit in the passenger door, and they wanted $8000.  I see the asking prices for total pieces of crap, and get a distorted idea of the market.  Look at this thing:




NOW you know why the call it DOPE!!!

375instroke

What do you think about the price of there cars.  The condition of this Bee may be better than the '69 I'm talking about, but it looks like a polished turd to me.  It says original engine and transmission, which aren't in the car right now, but the fender tag is missing.  Original my ass!






Ghoste

What did they do to the rad, paint it part way?

mikesbbody

Definitly the charger  :2thumbs: but if the Bee was a 71, Id take the Bee  :Twocents:

472 R/T SE

sunroofblacklee, did you buy the copper '69 from Harwell in Texas?



375instroke, are you wanting a '68-'69 Charger or b body to buy or just looking?  I have a buddy w/ a '70 Charger R/T SE that's for sure for sale and a '69 Bee that might be.  We're down here in the Portland area.



375instroke

Quote from: Ghoste on November 07, 2008, 11:00:11 PM
What did they do to the rad, paint it part way?

I'm sure he just washed it and it's water.

Ghoste

Okay, that makes sense.  I like the color on the rest of the car.  :D

Khyron

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on November 05, 2008, 01:17:54 AM
I already have a '69 Charger so I'd take the '69 Superbee BUT due to the shape of the Superbee, I'd take the Charger.

Due to the shape of your Charger I would put the 15000 into it :nana:


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375instroke

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on November 08, 2008, 12:18:42 AM
375instroke, are you wanting a '68-'69 Charger or b body to buy or just looking?  I have a buddy w/ a '70 Charger R/T SE that's for sure for sale and a '69 Bee that might be.  We're down here in the Portland area.

I'm saving for a new house with some garage space.  My house now doesn't have enough room for my 4 cars now, but if the right car came along, I may get rid of one.  These cars don't come along much any more unless they are at ridiculous prices.  The right cars for me right now are '68 or '69 Charger R/T, '69 Air Grabber Coronet R/T or Super Bee, or A12 car.  I've already had 2 cars hit & run in front of my house.  Man I need garage space.  If the right car came along, I have a '62 Cadillac that was the ex-wife's car that I'd send to the junk yard if I had to for the space.

hemi-hampton

Everybody sez overpriced, But just a couple of years ago seems like these would have been a steal? LEON. :scratchchin:

P.S. Take the Super Bee

Ghoste

So are you saying we're cheap or the market hasn't corrected enough yet?  :D

Dans 68

Quote from: Ghoste on November 08, 2008, 03:58:11 PM
So are you saying we're cheap or the market hasn't corrected enough yet?  :D

Yes....

Dan
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SeattleCharger



Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

375instroke

Here's an example of what I think is the right car that one just can't pass up:  I think the guy got it for $20,000.  What a deal.  All original '68 Charger R/T.  What a find.  Here's the original post:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10525.0/all.html







SeattleCharger

Quote from: 375instroke on November 09, 2008, 04:44:35 AM
Here's an example of what I think is the right car that one just can't pass up:  I think the guy got it for $20,000.  What a deal.  All original '68 Charger R/T.  What a find.  Here's the original post:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10525.0/all.html


20 grand is a score on that car, worth a lot more than that IMO. 
    But how often do you see a car like that for sale?
  Its not realistic to wait around for a car like that, and at a price near that.  I guess that deal shows its possible, though.



Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

TUFCAT

Quote from: 375instroke on November 09, 2008, 04:44:35 AM
Here's an example of what I think is the right car that one just can't pass up:  I think the guy got it for $20,000.  What a deal.  All original '68 Charger R/T.  What a find.  Here's the original post:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10525.0/all.html


I'm not biased or anything  :icon_smile_wink:......but I'd be happy to own the Survivor 1967 Coronet he sold to buy the Charger :2thumbs: ....with Magnum 500's and redines!  :drool5:

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SeattleCharger

Quote from: SeattleChargerDog on November 09, 2008, 12:28:49 PM
Quote from: 375instroke on November 09, 2008, 04:44:35 AM
Here's an example of what I think is the right car that one just can't pass up:  I think the guy got it for $20,000.  What a deal.  All original '68 Charger R/T.  What a find.  Here's the original post:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10525.0/all.html


20 grand is a score on that car, worth a lot more than that IMO. 
    But how often do you see a car like that for sale?
  Its not realistic to wait around for a car like that, and at a price near that.  I guess that deal shows its possible, though.



maybe its not worth a lot more because its a column shift,  but 38K original miles, that's rare


Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

375instroke

Quote from: SeattleChargerDog on November 10, 2008, 04:28:34 PM
maybe its not worth a lot more because its a column shift,  but 38K original miles, that's rare

Didn't remember that.  Never mind.  I'll pass.

SeattleCharger

Quote from: TUFCAT on November 10, 2008, 03:15:24 PM
Quote from: 375instroke on November 09, 2008, 04:44:35 AM
Here's an example of what I think is the right car that one just can't pass up:  I think the guy got it for $20,000.  What a deal.  All original '68 Charger R/T.  What a find.  Here's the original post:  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10525.0/all.html


I'm not biased or anything  :icon_smile_wink:......but I'd be happy to own the Survivor 1967 Coronet he sold to buy the Charger :2thumbs: ....with Magnum 500's and redines!  :drool5:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10525.0/all.html

hey, is there a 67 coronet 500 model?   I think there was one around a couple of years ago, white with red interior and a 383 and AT column, bench seat.   one of the doors was dented in badly, bench seat was covered, piece of trim missing, other than that looked original, was asking $3500.



Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

SeattleCharger


I remembered I saved that into my cell phone, didn't ever erase, I have that phone number in my cell phone under "coronet67". heh,   wonder if he has the car anymore, who knows, he only drove around with a for sale sign in window far as I know.  206-218-4693  :icon_smile_wink:


Why would you want anything else?  Just give me a Charger and I'll be happy.

TUFCAT

Quote from: SeattleChargerDog on November 12, 2008, 01:09:29 PM
hey, is there a 67 coronet 500 model?   I think there was one around a couple of years ago, white with red interior and a 383 and AT column, bench seat.   one of the doors was dented in badly, bench seat was covered, piece of trim missing, other than that looked original, was asking $3500.


Absolutely, and they sold well. They had a wider body side molding than the 440, a unique grill, and the same tail-lamp/tail panel design from the R/T.  All 500's had bucket seats with either have a console or buddy seat.

Sorry for Hijack.

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