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HID lights!

Started by BrianShaughnessy, November 04, 2008, 08:24:00 PM

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BrianShaughnessy


AKA:   Mr. Angry lights provided by Pete (Autodynamics).   Got dual filament kit the other day.   

With a little thinking and a leftover plug from an old headlight harness I got HIDs on dim and then rigged up the flash to pass bulbs on to work with the regular halogen high beams. 

Driving around with the HIDs on is super cool!   Great visibility over the old halogens.    Thanks Pete!

1 & 2.  HIDs.
3 & 4. Hi beams.
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

BrianShaughnessy

HID bulb as mfg'd adelivered and as I modified it - I cut off extra crap and moved the red wire on the male plug to the location that normally runs the high beam on the outside light.   

I had to make a small jumper harness to combine the HID relay trigger and the driver's side outside light plug.
I used a cut off old headlight harness but somebody could buy a new $5 plug from the parts store also. 
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

471_Magnum

Add some E-code H1 high beams, then you'll really light up the night.
"I can fix it... my old man is a television repairman... he's got the ultimate set of tools... I can fix it."

Rolling_Thunder

what brightness did you end up going with ?
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

BrianShaughnessy

Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

Foreman72

that looks bangin...did you just get new bulbs or did it require new balasts and all...
Eric "Foreman"

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Current: 2002 Volvo S60

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BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: Foreman72 on November 05, 2008, 11:12:08 AM
that looks bangin...did you just get new bulbs or did it require new balasts and all...

Add ballasts and all.
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

Rolling_Thunder

they look great - I'll be doing some in the future as well - if my car ever gets done
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

autodynamics

how are them lights......???

Nacho-RT74

I think I will begin a crusade againts HID headlights...they kill my eyes when meet with some car equipped with... REALLY
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: autodynamics on December 07, 2008, 06:09:27 PM
how are them lights......???

Hey I love'em  :2thumbs:   But I haven't moved the heap since last month.  Nothing going on up this way.
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

2Gunz

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 07, 2008, 06:48:37 PM
I think I will begin a crusade againts HID headlights...they kill my eyes when meet with some car equipped with... REALLY


Its because most the aftermarket ones are not projectors that have a focused beam.
Most are just HID bulbs that are stuffed in an H4 housing that was never designed for
them and the light just goes everywhere.

Ive been looking at putting a set of projectors in mine but so far cant find any that
are shallow enough.


autodynamics

i bet if you seen them up close you would change your mind. mine don't blind anyone. if there pointed correctly then there wouldn't be a problem. there is no turning back to conventional bulbs.

Nacho-RT74

no, sorry... I have seen them on factory and dealer mounted cars ( specially Mercedes ).. and still hurts... AND I'M WORKING ON MOVING LIGHTS BUSINESS where lights are even more shine than that
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

autodynamics

maybe you need some shades?? or design your our housings. either way i think you would appreciate a good view of the road....

dkn1997

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 07, 2008, 10:10:58 PM
no, sorry... I have seen them on factory and dealer mounted cars ( specially Mercedes ).. and still hurts... AND I'M WORKING ON MOVING LIGHTS BUSINESS where lights are even more shine than that

I find exactly the opposite.  The nice high end cars with them never blind me.  Here on Long Island, you can't drive down the street at night without one of these cars coming the other way. It beats the old days of holding my hands up to my eyes getting blinded by a guy in an 82 LeSabre with old fashioned lights...
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Nacho-RT74

I'm happy with halogens :D

A buddy of mine does have HIDs on its Caliber and 92 Wrangler Jeep... I can't see a NOTICEABLE diff than the tipical halogen ( good ones of course ) specially if we compare with price difference.

I hate HIDs specially on trucks BEHIND ME at traffic, againts my interior mirror.
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Hemidog

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 08, 2008, 01:58:09 PM
I'm happy with halogens :D

A buddy of mine does have HIDs on its Caliber and 92 Wrangler Jeep... I can't see a NOTICEABLE diff than the tipical halogen ( good ones of course ) specially if we compare with price difference.

I hate HIDs specially on trucks BEHIND ME at traffic, againts my interior mirror.
flip it to night mode maybe?  :shruggy:

dkn1997

Quote from: Hemidog on December 08, 2008, 02:44:40 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 08, 2008, 01:58:09 PM
I'm happy with halogens :D

A buddy of mine does have HIDs on its Caliber and 92 Wrangler Jeep... I can't see a NOTICEABLE diff than the tipical halogen ( good ones of course ) specially if we compare with price difference.

I hate HIDs specially on trucks BEHIND ME at traffic, againts my interior mirror.
flip it to night mode maybe?  :shruggy:

or flip the switch on the time machine from 1988 to 2008  :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
RECHRGED

Charger_Fan

The ones that really bug me are the stupid projector beam headlights. I get blinded daily (nightly) on my commute home, by some mis-aimed headlight. :icon_smile_angry:

Anyhoo, those HID's look purty cool on your Charger, Brian. :icon_smile_cool:

The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

Nacho-RT74

yeah I flip the mirror...

whatever... I know I will have to live with them around :P


where I can find the switch to 88/08 ? LOL
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

dkn1997

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 08, 2008, 08:44:11 PM
yeah I flip the mirror...

whatever... I know I will have to live with them around :P


where I can find the switch to 88/08 ? LOL

start with a Delorean.....then... :smilielol:
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b5blue

Any idea what kinda amps that setup draws with all 4 on?Have you tried them on with the wipers and blower running? Looks great!Don't melt your grill!!!

Hemidog

HID draws less amps than a halogen bulb.
And I wouldn't worry about the grill, HID = more light, less heat.

b5blue

Seems like a very bright idea then!

NYCMille

Honestly, if you try them once you will NEVER go back to standard lights... Yes, they are that good. Congrats Bri - no go drive around in the darkness...  :D

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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

TUFCAT

Its amazing you can have this technology in your old classic car!

I just don't drive mine at night to warrant the expense.

On a side note, I have HID lights on my newest car....and I have to agree - - they're offer the best visibility I have ever had - - on any car!

It makes driving at night SO MUCH BETTER - (a lot less stressful on the old eyeballs) -  MUCH safer too!  :yesnod:

challenger70

Quote from: 2Gunz on December 07, 2008, 08:59:33 PM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 07, 2008, 06:48:37 PM
I think I will begin a crusade againts HID headlights...they kill my eyes when meet with some car equipped with... REALLY


Its because most the aftermarket ones are not projectors that have a focused beam.
Most are just HID bulbs that are stuffed in an H4 housing that was never designed for
them and the light just goes everywhere.

Ive been looking at putting a set of projectors in mine but so far cant find any that
are shallow enough.



Thats exactly right, is there a true HID setup, that has the correct housing/lenses that bolts to  our cars?  Not just an HID bulb stuffed into an incorrect housing?  I really want to get HID on my Challenger and Charger but want to do it right.  I am ready to just do the H1/H4/CSR upgrade and forget the HID. :shruggy:
'68 383 A833 QQ1 Charger
'70  440 727 FY1 Challenger

Rolling_Thunder

it can be done...   using a projector, igniter, relay, and all that but you'd be looking at HUGE money
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

challenger70

Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on January 08, 2009, 07:27:19 PM
it can be done...   using a projector, igniter, relay, and all that but you'd be looking at HUGE money

wouldn't the only difference between putting the HID in the H1 setup and a true HID setup be the housing designed for the HID?
'68 383 A833 QQ1 Charger
'70  440 727 FY1 Challenger

2Gunz

Quote from: challenger70 on January 08, 2009, 07:57:38 PM
Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on January 08, 2009, 07:27:19 PM
it can be done...   using a projector, igniter, relay, and all that but you'd be looking at HUGE money

wouldn't the only difference between putting the HID in the H1 setup and a true HID setup be the housing designed for the HID?


Yes.

But really the projector is the star of the show.


Here is an example of projectors with great cutoffs.





2Gunz

And here are some pictures of some HID that are stuffed into something else........

2Gunz


It becomes pretty clear of why there is glare in non projector lights.
Even thou its hard to dispute the insane light output.


Currently there IS a full projector retro but it is very expensive and
I dont really like it.  Plus its the first run.

Basically I dont think its worth it.

autodynamics

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on November 04, 2008, 08:24:00 PM

AKA:   Mr. Angry lights provided by Pete (Autodynamics).   Got dual filament kit the other day.   

With a little thinking and a leftover plug from an old headlight harness I got HIDs on dim and then rigged up the flash to pass bulbs on to work with the regular halogen high beams. 

Driving around with the HIDs on is super cool!   Great visibility over the old halogens.    Thanks Pete!

1 & 2.  HIDs.
3 & 4. Hi beams.


this looks great to me

2Gunz

Quote from: autodynamics on January 09, 2009, 03:53:43 AM
Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on November 04, 2008, 08:24:00 PM

AKA:   Mr. Angry lights provided by Pete (Autodynamics).   Got dual filament kit the other day.   

With a little thinking and a leftover plug from an old headlight harness I got HIDs on dim and then rigged up the flash to pass bulbs on to work with the regular halogen high beams. 

Driving around with the HIDs on is super cool!   Great visibility over the old halogens.    Thanks Pete!

1 & 2.  HIDs.
3 & 4. Hi beams.


this looks great to me


Ya I love the light output.

And your setup is the best thing I have seen going so far,
short of spending $1000 and hacking up the car.

Nice work.




challenger70

Quote from: 2Gunz on January 09, 2009, 03:46:58 AM
Quote from: challenger70 on January 08, 2009, 07:57:38 PM
Quote from: Rolling_Thunder on January 08, 2009, 07:27:19 PM
it can be done...   using a projector, igniter, relay, and all that but you'd be looking at HUGE money

wouldn't the only difference between putting the HID in the H1 setup and a true HID setup be the housing designed for the HID?


Yes.

But really the projector is the star of the show.


Here is an example of projectors with great cutoffs.






No I know what you mean, is the projector itself THAT expensive, since you really need everything else anyway to put em in an H1 housing, that it becomes that much more?  Could you link the kit?  I assume the hacking up woul dbe the headlight buckets to get them to fit?  Thanks for the info so far.
'68 383 A833 QQ1 Charger
'70  440 727 FY1 Challenger

KillerBee1972

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on November 04, 2008, 08:24:00 PM

AKA:   Mr. Angry lights provided by Pete (Autodynamics).   Got dual filament kit the other day.   

With a little thinking and a leftover plug from an old headlight harness I got HIDs on dim and then rigged up the flash to pass bulbs on to work with the regular halogen high beams. 

Driving around with the HIDs on is super cool!   Great visibility over the old halogens.    Thanks Pete!

1 & 2.  HIDs.
3 & 4. Hi beams.



Where would i get somthing like that!? They are sweet, my dad told me he did that to his charger when he got it, but cant remember where he got them!
1964 Plymouth Fury "old 70s drag car"
1973 Dodge Charger SE B9 blue 440

2Gunz


Pete (Autodynamics)  Is a member here and does the kits.

Click on the link below and send him a message.


http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=198

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