News:

It appears that the upgrade forces a login and many, many of you have forgotten your passwords and didn't set up any reminders. Contact me directly through helpmelogin@dodgecharger.com and I'll help sort it out.

Main Menu

Quick "Deathproof" project

Started by aussiemuscle, October 04, 2008, 09:31:52 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

aussiemuscle

Made from AMT's 1/25 'General Lee' Kit. i painted it with spray can black over white undercoat (which is the scratches you can see) and added dents with a cigarette lighter to make it bashed up. i printed the texas plates on glossy photo paper.




41husk

1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

Ghoste

You need to craft a duck head hood ornament now.

Mike DC

 
Ya know, that "Deathproof" car is one MORE  kit that amt/ertl (or whoever owns it now) could potentially get out of that same old 1981 "General Lee" kit's tooling.  It's another '69 Charger with a rollcage and Vector wheels. 


Between decades of selling that cash-cow GL kit (which I think is the bestselling kit of all time), then the more recent "Fast & Furious" 1970 Charger, and now maybe even the "DeathProof" car off that mold . . . couldn't they find it in their hearts to finally fix that rear window?  All they'd have to do is dupe it back off the old pre-Daytona bodies that were originally done from that same basic mold shape. 

And now that it's appearing on multiple cars, how about making the rollcage fit a little better? 



 

Drache

[quote author=Mike DC (formerly miked)
Between decades of selling that cash-cow GL kit (which I think is the bestselling kit of all time), then the more recent "Fast & Furious" 1970 Charger, and now maybe even the "DeathProof" car off that mold . . . couldn't they find it in their hearts to finally fix that rear window?  All they'd have to do is dupe it back off the old pre-Daytona bodies that were originally done from that same basic mold shape. 

And now that it's appearing on multiple cars, how about making the rollcage fit a little better? 
Quote

I've got a diecast 1:25 (stated this on the box, NOT 1:24 like the rest of my cars lol) General Lee! When I opened the box it didn't have the pushbar, or a rollcage, nor the correct wheels. In fact the car itself was a '69 Charger 500 (not just the flush back window but it also had the 500 grille). It was annoying at first but oh well!  :icon_smile_big:
Dart
Racing
Ass
Chasing
Hellion
Extraordinaire

WingCharger

Quote from: Drache on October 05, 2008, 09:38:48 AM
[quote author=Mike DC (formerly miked)
Between decades of selling that cash-cow GL kit (which I think is the bestselling kit of all time), then the more recent "Fast & Furious" 1970 Charger, and now maybe even the "DeathProof" car off that mold . . . couldn't they find it in their hearts to finally fix that rear window?  All they'd have to do is dupe it back off the old pre-Daytona bodies that were originally done from that same basic mold shape. 

And now that it's appearing on multiple cars, how about making the rollcage fit a little better? 
Quote

I've got a diecast 1:25 (stated this on the box, NOT 1:24 like the rest of my cars lol) General Lee! When I opened the box it didn't have the pushbar, or a rollcage, nor the correct wheels. In fact the car itself was a '69 Charger 500 (not just the flush back window but it also had the 500 grille). It was annoying at first but oh well!  :icon_smile_big:
DUDE!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o I have the same thing! I always  wondered why  it was like  that, but like 3 monthes ago I realized it was a 500. :RantExplode:

Ghoste

I have it too but I was kind of glad that it was more 500 than GL.  Not a GL slam just that I like 500's better.

pettyfan43

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 05, 2008, 05:41:40 AM
 
Ya know, that "Deathproof" car is one MORE  kit that amt/ertl (or whoever owns it now) could potentially get out of that same old 1981 "General Lee" kit's tooling.  It's another '69 Charger with a rollcage and Vector wheels. 


Between decades of selling that cash-cow GL kit (which I think is the bestselling kit of all time), then the more recent "Fast & Furious" 1970 Charger, and now maybe even the "DeathProof" car off that mold . . . couldn't they find it in their hearts to finally fix that rear window?  All they'd have to do is dupe it back off the old pre-Daytona bodies that were originally done from that same basic mold shape. 

And now that it's appearing on multiple cars, how about making the rollcage fit a little better? 



 



That fast & Furious car has a tunneled back window, but it isn't good. The reason they have never fixed the car correctly is that the original mold was permanently altered in 70-71 to create the #71 K&K Daytona kit.  That kit has changed around so much, it won't ever be right again!
That is the reason those are mainly parts cars for old Daytona racecars and original annuals. If you want to build a nice Charger model, get the Revell car, MUCH better start for whatever you are building.

RDR838

I used a flatblack 1/18 scale '69 Charger that I bought off eBay a while back to 'clone' the Deathproof-Charger. Didn't do much to it though, it just got the interior out of the Fast-and-the-Furious-Charger incl. the roll-cage which I painted grey. I don't have a Dukes-of-hazzard-model which I could take the vector rims off... Should anybody be willing to sell me 4 1/18 vector-rims, I'd be interested  ;)

I was used to work with these models because a year before I used three different models to 're-create' my 1/1-scale Charger in 1/18. No picture of that one but I can snap one tomorrow.



The deathproof-team sits right next to the Bullitt-dream-team:



Cheers!

RDR838

Mike DC

QuoteThat fast & Furious car has a tunneled back window, but it isn't good. The reason they have never fixed the car correctly is that the original mold was permanently altered in 70-71 to create the #71 K&K Daytona kit.  That kit has changed around so much, it won't ever be right again!
That is the reason those are mainly parts cars for old Daytona racecars and original annuals. If you want to build a nice Charger model, get the Revell car, MUCH better start for whatever you are building.

I agree that the Revell one is much better in detail.  But I don't like the overall distorted dimensions compared to the old AMT ones.  I can take a tape-measure to my 1:1 scale Charger, and everything basically matches the old factory-promo-based AMT/ERTL kits.  Not so for the Revell kits.  There's enough of a difference that it stands out to me even just looking at the completed models. 


It's not that hard to find a few remaining promos and early models that were made from the factory '69 tooling before it was altered for the C500/Daytona rear window and stuff.  (And the door & hood scoops are wrong now, too.)  I really wish AMT would just dupe some fresh tooling off one of those bodies and be done with it. 

It's not like they're in any danger of not recouping fresh money invested into that mold.  These model companies invest in designing & building entirely-new tooling for kits that don't sell 1/4th as well as this kit will probably continue to sell for years to come.


 

Brock Samson

 I read an article that said the model car industry has tanked and will never come back to where it was a few years ago.
i think it was in car & driver magazine a few mos back.. I'll try and find it...
i couldn't find the recent article about how the industry is kaput but i did find this older '95 one...


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/the_people_s_republic_of_models_feature

found it..

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/c_d_staff/aaron_robinson/rediscovering_the_glue_tube_column





Drache

Quote from: Brock Samson on October 05, 2008, 06:29:23 PM
I read an article that said the model car industry has tanked and will never come back to where it was a few years ago.
i think it was in car & driver magazine a few mos back.. I'll try and find it...
i couldn't find the recent article about how the industry is kaput but i did find this older '95 one...


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/the_people_s_republic_of_models_feature

found it..

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/c_d_staff/aaron_robinson/rediscovering_the_glue_tube_column

I'll believe it! None of the local stores in two cities sell model car kits anymore....
Dart
Racing
Ass
Chasing
Hellion
Extraordinaire

pettyfan43

Quote from: Brock Samson on October 05, 2008, 06:29:23 PM
I read an article that said the model car industry has tanked and will never come back to where it was a few years ago.
i think it was in car & driver magazine a few mos back.. I'll try and find it...
i couldn't find the recent article about how the industry is kaput but i did find this older '95 one...


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/the_people_s_republic_of_models_feature

found it..

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/c_d_staff/aaron_robinson/rediscovering_the_glue_tube_column






The MODEL CAR INDUSTRY is NOT dead, it has just changed, and modelers have changed and adapted. I went to our local Model show YESTERDAY and the hobby is alive and kicking. The reason you don't see them in the Mega Low Marts is that the profit margin is just not high enough. There are still real live HOBBY SHOPS and yes NEW kits are still being designed and marketed, just not as many as there USED to be.

You can get Models and resin conversions for a WHOLE lot of cars! Ya just have to change with the times to get what you want.

Many serious car modelers have the same problem I do, more kits than they can ever build ANYWAY. And then of course, when that new 68 Charger kit came out, ya HAVE to get a couple!!!!!

pettyfan43

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on October 05, 2008, 05:21:40 PM
QuoteThat fast & Furious car has a tunneled back window, but it isn't good. The reason they have never fixed the car correctly is that the original mold was permanently altered in 70-71 to create the #71 K&K Daytona kit.  That kit has changed around so much, it won't ever be right again!
That is the reason those are mainly parts cars for old Daytona racecars and original annuals. If you want to build a nice Charger model, get the Revell car, MUCH better start for whatever you are building.

I agree that the Revell one is much better in detail.  But I don't like the overall distorted dimensions compared to the old AMT ones.  I can take a tape-measure to my 1:1 scale Charger, and everything basically matches the old factory-promo-based AMT/ERTL kits.  Not so for the Revell kits.  There's enough of a difference that it stands out to me even just looking at the completed models. 


It's not that hard to find a few remaining promos and early models that were made from the factory '69 tooling before it was altered for the C500/Daytona rear window and stuff.  (And the door & hood scoops are wrong now, too.)  I really wish AMT would just dupe some fresh tooling off one of those bodies and be done with it. 

It's not like they're in any danger of not recouping fresh money invested into that mold.  These model companies invest in designing & building entirely-new tooling for kits that don't sell 1/4th as well as this kit will probably continue to sell for years to come.


 


I know exactly what you are saying, and in their original form, the old MPC annual kits and Promos are hard to beat for the right "look". There are a couple issues with the Revell car. BUT those annuals are EXPENSIVE, I have a few and even builders are getting HARD to afford. The REVELL cars look good if you spend a little time on them and that is what I enjoy. I don't take them that seriously, it is a relaxation thing for me. I'd rather work with the Revell car and get a car that looks great, than try to deal with all of the screwed up issues on that old MPC tool. TOO many things to fix on that old Dukes kit for me.

Drache

Quote from: pettyfan43 on October 05, 2008, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on October 05, 2008, 06:29:23 PM
I read an article that said the model car industry has tanked and will never come back to where it was a few years ago.
i think it was in car & driver magazine a few mos back.. I'll try and find it...
i couldn't find the recent article about how the industry is kaput but i did find this older '95 one...


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/the_people_s_republic_of_models_feature

found it..

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/c_d_staff/aaron_robinson/rediscovering_the_glue_tube_column






The MODEL CAR INDUSTRY is NOT dead, it has just changed, and modelers have changed and adapted. I went to our local Model show YESTERDAY and the hobby is alive and kicking. The reason you don't see them in the Mega Low Marts is that the profit margin is just not high enough. There are still real live HOBBY SHOPS and yes NEW kits are still being designed and marketed, just not as many as there USED to be.

You can get Models and resin conversions for a WHOLE lot of cars! Ya just have to change with the times to get what you want.

Many serious car modelers have the same problem I do, more kits than they can ever build ANYWAY. And then of course, when that new 68 Charger kit came out, ya HAVE to get a couple!!!!!

It's dead around here... there isn't a hobby shop probably within 10 hours drive in any direction....  :rotz:
Dart
Racing
Ass
Chasing
Hellion
Extraordinaire

pettyfan43

There are several good ones online. And Ebay is a decent source of new kits and accessories. I'm very involved in the hobby, and if there is anything you need to find out or know about them, I can find out. You can also go here.

www.spotlighthobbies.com and hit the message board. LOTS of really good modelers and great builders, including several Canadian guys.  Don't limit yourself just because you can't walk into a store.

I can't go into a local store and buy much for my 66 Charger, but I still get what I need for it as I can.  :icon_smile_wink:


Mike DC

QuoteI know exactly what you are saying, and in their original form, the old MPC annual kits and Promos are hard to beat for the right "look". There are a couple issues with the Revell car. BUT those annuals are EXPENSIVE, I have a few and even builders are getting HARD to afford. The REVELL cars look good if you spend a little time on them and that is what I enjoy. I don't take them that seriously, it is a relaxation thing for me. I'd rather work with the Revell car and get a car that looks great, than try to deal with all of the screwed up issues on that old MPC tool. TOO many things to fix on that old Dukes kit for me.

Yeah, I agree the Revell kit is a good item that needed to be made.  The market needed a better option than just the existing AMT General Lee kit for everyone who wants to model any 2nd-gen Charger whatsoever. 


I'm just a perfectionist.  Not always the most fun way to be.  Especially with any material things. 

 

aussiemuscle

Quote from: pettyfan43 on October 06, 2008, 06:00:39 AM
I can't go into a local store and buy much for my 66 Charger, but I still get what I need for it as I can.  :icon_smile_wink:
Hey pettyfan, have you build the revell 66 (67?) charger yet? I'm trying to build models of all the cars i've owned over the years (and sold).  :D

if you want a fairly active forum, go to the scale auto forums (they print the scale auto magazine).
http://cs.scaleautomag.com/scacs/forums/

69bronzeT5

Quote from: pettyfan43 on October 05, 2008, 09:15:16 PM
Many serious car modelers have the same problem I do, more kits than they can ever build ANYWAY.

I have that problem :icon_smile_big:
Feature Editor for Mopar Connection Magazine
http://moparconnectionmagazine.com/



1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
1971 Charger Super Bee: GY3 Citron Yella 440 4-Speed
1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Road Runner: FE5 Red 440 Automatic
1973 Plymouth Duster: FC7 Plum Crazy 318 Automatic

pettyfan43

Quote from: aussiemuscle on October 08, 2008, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: pettyfan43 on October 06, 2008, 06:00:39 AM
I can't go into a local store and buy much for my 66 Charger, but I still get what I need for it as I can.  :icon_smile_wink:
Hey pettyfan, have you build the revell 66 (67?) charger yet? I'm trying to build models of all the cars i've owned over the years (and sold).  :D

if you want a fairly active forum, go to the scale auto forums (they print the scale auto magazine).
http://cs.scaleautomag.com/scacs/forums/


At last count I had built 3 of that car, one like my 66, a 67 Hemi Silver street machine and a Turbine bronze 66 Drag car.  NICE NICE kit, I picked up another one at a show this past weekend, that makes 6 or 7 I think.

pettyfan43

Quote from: aussiemuscle on October 08, 2008, 12:38:02 AM
Quote from: pettyfan43 on October 06, 2008, 06:00:39 AM
I can't go into a local store and buy much for my 66 Charger, but I still get what I need for it as I can.  :icon_smile_wink:
Hey pettyfan, have you build the revell 66 (67?) charger yet? I'm trying to build models of all the cars i've owned over the years (and sold).  :D

if you want a fairly active forum, go to the scale auto forums (they print the scale auto magazine).
http://cs.scaleautomag.com/scacs/forums/


Check out this thread here   http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,49027.0.html The bronze 66 Drag car is in here toward the top!

You don't have an aussie Charger do you? Know where I can get a kit? I LOVE those Aussie Charger R/Ts!!!

Death1970Proof

"Remember when I said this car was death proof? Well that wasnt' a lie-this car is 100%death proof- only to get the benefit of it honey you really need to be sitting in my seat"...

KS71owner

Quote from: pettyfan43 on October 05, 2008, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: Brock Samson on October 05, 2008, 06:29:23 PM
I read an article that said the model car industry has tanked and will never come back to where it was a few years ago.
i think it was in car & driver magazine a few mos back.. I'll try and find it...
i couldn't find the recent article about how the industry is kaput but i did find this older '95 one...


http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/features_classic_cars/the_people_s_republic_of_models_feature

found it..

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/c_d_staff/aaron_robinson/rediscovering_the_glue_tube_column






The MODEL CAR INDUSTRY is NOT dead, it has just changed, and modelers have changed and adapted. I went to our local Model show YESTERDAY and the hobby is alive and kicking. The reason you don't see them in the Mega Low Marts is that the profit margin is just not high enough. There are still real live HOBBY SHOPS and yes NEW kits are still being designed and marketed, just not as many as there USED to be.

You can get Models and resin conversions for a WHOLE lot of cars! Ya just have to change with the times to get what you want.

Many serious car modelers have the same problem I do, more kits than they can ever build ANYWAY. And then of course, when that new 68 Charger kit came out, ya HAVE to get a couple!!!!!

Agreed - the best places to find good kits have almost always been the specialty hobby stores anyway. Occasionally you can luck out and find something nice at Michaels or a box store, but I've found that hobby shops are always better in terms of selection, and better for ordering stuff on request, as well as a good availability of aftermarket goodies.

I too have WAY more models than time to build them....however now that I have a house instead of an apartment I actually have a nice place to work on them.

I don't have any of my Charger kits done yet, but here are a couple of finished and in-progress cars...I also build scifi, bikes and military stuff.



aussiemuscle

Quote from: pettyfan43 on October 08, 2008, 07:04:48 PM
You don't have an aussie Charger do you? Know where I can get a kit? I LOVE those Aussie Charger R/Ts!!!
You have several choices
1 diecast are available in 1:18 and 1:43. 18 is not my scale.
2. diecast 1/24 scale R/T from TRAX www.topgear.com.au
3. resin 1/24 scale from www.scaleautomobilia.com.au

i'm not into 1:18. trax have a 1:43 available
i've bought 4 trax 1/24 chargers. one i repainted to match the one i used to own, ie crappy.
(yet to repaint the chassis!!).
here's one i modified to look like the one in Road Warrior (aka mad max 2) yet to install the 50 buick grille!.