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Started by Blown70, October 25, 2005, 11:10:23 AM

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Blown70

Well here is a question for you all.  or all ya'all?

35x40 shop with 12 foot ceiling.  How many BTU necessary.

I do currently have a gas heater, I do not mind the gas just dont like the heater I have. 

So any recommendations?  And or best place to purchase


Thanks in advance.

Tom

RD

get a 1,000,000 btu heater!!  I had one, called it Mega-me, warmed up a 24 x 30 garage to 96 degrees :D  (yeah, it was nutz i admit, but the space heater was cheap at an auction and it worked).
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

tin_soldier

I am getting a "Reddy Salmander"  Also known as a "Torpedo". Reddy is the brand name  Things work great.  They can run off several types of fuel.  Best part it sounds like a jet engine for @ 3 min. while it warms up the shop.

41husk

I got two Kerosene space heaters at a yard sale for $10.  Gonna try fireing one up this weekend :o
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

RD

Quote from: 41husk on October 25, 2005, 01:05:48 PM
I got two Kerosene space heaters at a yard sale for $10.   Gonna try fireing one up this weekend :o

That is what I need for my shop.  Hey 41husk, on a tangent, found a rampage in a junkyard, looks pretty complete but is hurtin a little.  body is pretty straight as well as front grille, has motor/trans still.  sittin on 4 wheels.
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

41husk

I would like to have one but I am now focusing all spare time and $ on getting the convertible Challenger back on the road, and with wrestling season starting in a week I am rapidly getting short on both :'(
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

NHCharger

My shop is 30x50 with 11' ceiling. I have a Hot Dawg FHA propane heater hanging from the ceiling. $1,500.00 installed and running, 10 year warrenty. After years of working outside laying on a piece of cardboard or a unheated garage I decided I was getting to old for that $hit. I'll have to check on the BTU rating, here's a pic after the install.
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Blown70

Quote from: NHCharger on October 25, 2005, 05:47:36 PM
My shop is 30x50 with 11' ceiling. I have a Hot Dawg FHA propane heater hanging from the ceiling. $1,500.00 installed and running, 10 year warrenty. After years of working outside laying on a piece of cardboard or a unheated garage I decided I was getting to old for that $hit. I'll have to check on the BTU rating, here's a pic after the install.

That is what I would be looking for.

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: 41husk on October 25, 2005, 01:05:48 PM
I got two Kerosene space heaters at a yard sale for $10.   Gonna try fireing one up this weekend :o


My friend uses one but he has a small 1 car garage and it's fairly well insulated ... considering.    He starts it when he gets home and a couple hours later it's tolerable.

I could never get my regular kerosene heater to work good in my 2 car...  I left it for the garbageman earlier this year.

I run my 55K reddy heater... it warms up to 70 something pretty fast when I need it.   I need to insulate better tho.   The worst part is the concrete floor tho... that never seems to get warm.
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

41husk

This is a small garage, and not insulated, I may end up kicking these to the curb but for $10 I will give them a shot. NH charger, that is a sweet garage, I would love that with a lift.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

nh_mopar_fan

Brian,

NICE!

I've got a 3bay that is going to be heated by a kerosene furnace that came out of a mobile home. Need to install the tank though and that means pouring a pad. Time is running out. Hopefully, I can get the thing started this weekend, if it ever stops raining.....

4402tuff4u

Rough quick and dirty formula is: cubic foot X 4 for poor insulation, 3 for average insulation, 2 for good insulation. In your case 16,800 cf x 4 = 67,200 btu's. This does not take into account window square footage of doors/garage doors, etc.. This will give you a rough ballpark figure to look for a space heater.
"Mother should I trust the government?........... Pink Floyd "Mother"

Blown70

Quote from: 4402tuff4u on October 26, 2005, 10:37:49 AM
Rough quick and dirty formula is: cubic foot X 4 for poor insulation, 3 for average insulation, 2 for good insulation. In your case 16,800 cf x 4 = 67,200 btu's. This does not take into account window square footage of doors/garage doors, etc.. This will give you a rough ballpark figure to look for a space heater.

Thanks,  I will say I significantly upgraded the insulation last year.  THe JackaZZ that had the place prior was a putz..... Cut down a whole tank of fuel last year.  Plust I put new door seals and will reseal the walkin door before winter.

THANKS I DO APPRECIATE IT.... :2thumbs:

RD

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on October 25, 2005, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: 41husk on October 25, 2005, 01:05:48 PM
I got two Kerosene space heaters at a yard sale for $10.   Gonna try fireing one up this weekend :o
 The worst part is the concrete floor tho... that never seems to get warm.

You should have installed a water heater and piped 1" copper tubing throughout your concrete floor.  That way during the winter it is a heated floor :D  this is what my father-in-law has done to his garage, really nice  :icon_smile_big:
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: RD on October 26, 2005, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on October 25, 2005, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: 41husk on October 25, 2005, 01:05:48 PM
I got two Kerosene space heaters at a yard sale for $10.   Gonna try fireing one up this weekend :o
 The worst part is the concrete floor tho... that never seems to get warm.

You should have installed a water heater and piped 1" copper tubing throughout your concrete floor.   That way during the winter it is a heated floor :D   this is what my father-in-law has done to his garage, really nice   :icon_smile_big:

  You're assuming that it's something new that I would be able to plumb in slab heating instead of what it is... an attached garage to a house built in 1961.  I haven't checked into retrofitting that system...  that's a possibility I guess...  as soon as I hit that lotto  :yesnod:
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

RD

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on October 26, 2005, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: RD on October 26, 2005, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on October 25, 2005, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: 41husk on October 25, 2005, 01:05:48 PM
I got two Kerosene space heaters at a yard sale for $10.   Gonna try fireing one up this weekend :o
 The worst part is the concrete floor tho... that never seems to get warm.

You should have installed a water heater and piped 1" copper tubing throughout your concrete floor.   That way during the winter it is a heated floor :D   this is what my father-in-law has done to his garage, really nice   :icon_smile_big:

  You're assuming that it's something new that I would be able to plumb in slab heating instead of what it is... an attached garage to a house built in 1961.   I haven't checked into retrofitting that system...   that's a possibility I guess...   as soon as I hit that lotto   :yesnod:

I will cross my fingers hoping you win, but remember, if you do win, remember I crossed my fingers for you :D hehe
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: RD on October 26, 2005, 08:10:02 PM
Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on October 26, 2005, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: RD on October 26, 2005, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on October 25, 2005, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: 41husk on October 25, 2005, 01:05:48 PM
I got two Kerosene space heaters at a yard sale for $10.   Gonna try fireing one up this weekend :o
 The worst part is the concrete floor tho... that never seems to get warm.

You should have installed a water heater and piped 1" copper tubing throughout your concrete floor.   That way during the winter it is a heated floor :D   this is what my father-in-law has done to his garage, really nice   :icon_smile_big:

  You're assuming that it's something new that I would be able to plumb in slab heating instead of what it is... an attached garage to a house built in 1961.   I haven't checked into retrofitting that system...   that's a possibility I guess...   as soon as I hit that lotto   :yesnod:

I will cross my fingers hoping you win, but remember, if you do win, remember I crossed my fingers for you :D hehe

I'm still waiting on my friend at work that did hit lotto last spring to kick in the $20K for the crate hemi I asked him for...
He's one of the few guys I've given a hell ride to... ya think he'd be more grateful to to somebody for helping relieve that constipation problem he had  :icon_smile_evil:    That was before he won it too.    :devil:
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

firefighter3931

Quote from: NHCharger on October 25, 2005, 05:47:36 PM
My shop is 30x50 with 11' ceiling. I have a Hot Dawg FHA propane heater hanging from the ceiling. $1,500.00 installed and running, 10 year warrenty. After years of working outside laying on a piece of cardboard or a unheated garage I decided I was getting to old for that $hit. I'll have to check on the BTU rating, here's a pic after the install.

Killer shop NHcharger   :icon_smile_big: I'd like to build something similar but think i'll go with radiant floor heating. It gets freaking cold up here in the wintertime. A warm floor seems like a bonus when it's -50c outside.   :o

Ron
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RD

Quote from: firefighter3931 on October 26, 2005, 10:08:12 PM

Killer shop NHcharger   :icon_smile_big: I'd like to build something similar but think i'll go with radiant floor heating. It gets freaking cold up here in the wintertime. A warm floor seems like a bonus when it's -50c outside.   :o

Ron

that gave me the shivers just thinking about it!
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

41husk

were can you buy Kerosene? I don't think you can get it at the convenience marts.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

Blown70

Quote from: 41husk on October 27, 2005, 10:44:14 AM
were can you buy Kerosene? I don't think you can get it at the convenience marts.

Many of the Lowes, fleet Farm, TSC, home depot.... ect. around here have it in 5 gallon containers...

Troy

Quote from: 41husk on October 27, 2005, 10:44:14 AM
were can you buy Kerosene? I don't think you can get it at the convenience marts.

I can get it at regular gas stations. It's off to the side away from regular gas on its own pump. About 1 in 10 stations seem to have it around here.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

41husk

Thanks guy's I will check both local gas stations and lowes.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

NHCharger

Hey Blown, here is a closer pic of my shop heater, it's a 60,000 BTU unit. My shop is insulated with R-19 in the walls and R-30 in the ceiling. I didn't use any styrofoam insulation under the slab because I think it's pointless unless your using radiant floor heat, plus it would have cost $1,400. just for the insulation. Also my windows are double pane, low-E glass. Since I built it myself I know it's pretty tight.
Last January, which was one of the coldest months on record, it cost me $132.00 to heat the shop. That's setting the temp at 52 and raising it to 60 when I work in there. Propane was running about $ 1.86/gallon then.

Ron, I know what you mean about windchill. I live on the north side of a pond. There's usually a nice breeze blowing all winter. :eyes: I have recorded temp's here at -20 a couple times, that doesn't include the wind chill factor. That is why I only installed one 12x8 garage door in my shop. The heat loss from a garage door is the major cost of heating my shop .
72 Charger- Base Model
68 Charger-R/T Clone
69 Charger Daytona clone
79 Lil Red Express - future money pit
88 Ramcharger 4x4- current money pit
55 Dodge Royal 2 door - wife's money pit
2014 RAM 2500HD Diesel

nh_mopar_fan

My heating oil company carries kerosene. Try them. Lot easier to have them come and fill your tank for you.