hemigeno's Daytona restoration - a few more tweaks... again!

[hemigeno]

Here are some pictures I took of the Engine ID pad.  It reads:

E 440  (but, note the different fonts used in the two "4" stamps... very weird)

6 6  (almost looks double-stamped, but there is no other date numeral so it's gotta be 6/6/69)

HP2 (just means HP engine, assembled on the 2nd shift)


Dave B.'s formerly-owned Daytona was scheduled for a 6/6/69 build date, and he already knows that was a Friday.  Since the engine was assembled on 2nd shift, I've wondered if the guy that stamped the engine pad had a snootful by the time this block got to him...   

[tan top]

looking Good Geno   

[hemigeno]

Thanks, tan top!

[hemigeno]

Here is the flywheel we're going to use.  It's a Hays steel piece, rather than an original C.I. style.  Even before Vance and I had the discussion, I was already in favor of going with an aftermarket piece like this, mostly for safety's sake.  Vance has repaired several cars recently whose stock flywheels grenaded.  One Challenger T/A owner actually told Vance to put another stock flywheel back in, even after he tore up the transmission tunnel, firewall, plastic cowl air vents and even his hood!! 

Personally, I would much rather know that the flywheel is going to stay in one piece.  I have been known to miss a shift or two 

[moparstuart]

awesome thanks . PM me what i owe you and i'll send you a check

Vance gave them to me for free, but you can have them at double that price   


I'm not gonna let you pay me for something that didn't cost me a cent.  Now delivery is another story...   

ok great should be about $50.00 for shipping ,handling and packaging .

[hemigeno]

Here's some eye candy for you... the restored jack assemblies.

I'm still grateful for the help Pete Veight (Wingnut426) gave me in researching the jack bearings, and for eventually supplying the right bearing.  

[nascarxx29]

I remember going over the cars original details The engine casting date was 5- 20- 69  SPD was 606

[hemigeno]

ok great should be about $50.00 for shipping ,handling and packaging .

You've been buying a lot of things on eBay lately haven't you?  Or is it YearOne that's done you wrong?  

We'll discuss the shipping, handling and packaging fees at the next Wing Car Club restaurant outing... in the meantime, you'll be getting a package in the mail one of these days.

[hemigeno]

I remember going over the cars original details The engine casting date was 5- 20- 69  SPD was 606

Yep, that's what I had written down.  Your old car's engine had an assembly date of 6/11 or 6/12 IIRC though, which means the car itself could not have been assembled on the Hamtramck line on 6/6 (not when the engine still had another 5 days to go before it was assembled and shipped from the Trenton plant to Hamtramck, which according to Frank Badalson took another +/- 7 days).  Since our cars had such similar Broadcast Sheet Sequence Numbers, only 24 apart, I have guessed that they were probably built somewhere between the 15th and the 20th of June.  That's just a SWAG though...

[UFO]

Comin' along nicely.
Hmmmm, roller cam-valve reliefs on the pistons may look stock but I bet there's going to be a little more bark to it than originally.

[hemigeno]

Ever been told that a wing adjustment bolt HAD to look "just like so"?

The last three pictures are all of original/correct wing adjustment bolts, showing three different head patterns and three different shoulder(?) lengths.  So, there could very easily be some variation in what bolts were installed in a car.  They're all the same basic size and shape, but there are differences.

[nascarxx29]

Found my untouched 22 K mile motor shot out car by SPI .The Engine pad also showed a inverted A as I believe was for 0.20 overbore


My wing adjustment bolt was all splines as one shown all the way to the right.But there could have been different vendors

[hemigeno]

Comin' along nicely.
Hmmmm, roller cam-valve reliefs on the pistons may look stock but I bet there's going to be a little more bark to it than originally.

Thanks Brian!

Hopefully there's a LOT more bark in it...     There's always more that could be done, but a lot of other improvements would require intake and exhaust modifications - which are just not part of the plan for obvious reasons.

Vance is trying to get as much as he can while maintaining a reasonably-stock-sounding idle.

[hemigeno]

Found my untouched 22 K mile motor shot out car by SPI .The Engine pad also showed a inverted A as I believe was for 0.20 overbore

Those red springs are usually a tell-tale sign of an original valvetrain, and with that few miles on it, it should have been untouched.  Do you remember what the engine assembly date was - the 11th or 12th?

In case anyone is wondering or hadn't noticed yet, I'm definitely not worried about making sure the internal components of the drivetrain are NOS/correct/stock, etc.  There will be a set of Harland Sharp rockers on top of the CompCams springs - which don't have any red paint on them.  Oh well, the increased performance and longevity makes that a VERY acceptable tradeoff for me.

[nascarxx29]

I think it was 611 .But I took a paper tracing of all kinds of those special numbers throughout the car.Will see I f I can find it

[UFO]

Comin' along nicely.
Hmmmm, roller cam-valve reliefs on the pistons may look stock but I bet there's going to be a little more bark to it than originally.

Thanks Brian!

Hopefully there's a LOT more bark in it...     There's always more that could be done, but a lot of other improvements would require intake and exhaust modifications - which are just not part of the plan for obvious reasons.

Vance is trying to get as much as he can while maintaining a reasonably-stock-sounding idle.

A 500+ stroker kit will work.
Afterall all you don't want to just injure the bugs in the grille best to annihilate them.

[hemigeno]

The first picture shows what the original wing adjustment limiting pins look like.  These can't really be seen once the wing is installed, but they'll be visible during the assembly shots.

The last two pictures are of the special engine mount bolts that have a "38" stamped in them.  There's also a characteristic knurling in the thread at the other end as well.  Frank Badalson now has some nice reproductions of these, but Vance had a couple of awesome originals that will be used.

[nascarxx29]

it reads   E 440    
                     A which is clocked 180 from this position
            6 11 HP

[hemigeno]

A 500+ stroker kit will work.
Afterall all you don't want to just injure the bugs in the grille best to annihilate them.

I actually did talk to Vance early on about putting a stroker crank in it.  The reason we collectively agreed to keep things at +/-440cid has to do with the limiting factors of carburetion/intake/head & port design/exhaust.  If we could make significant improvements in those areas somehow, then the additional CI's would be more than welcome by yours truly.  The performance prospects aren't too great in expecting an Olympic weightlifter to breath in and out through a straw.

I like your way of thinking though...   

[hemigeno]

it reads   E 440    
                     A which is clocked 180 from this position
            6 11 HP

Thanks for looking that up, Dave!

[nascarxx29]

I got alot saved images here the trunk as car is restored.Cant say if that strip of gray felt is there were the front end of bumper jack post rested.

[hemigeno]

I took some shots of the steering column, which has been restored.  Seeing the whole thing standing on the NOS steering wheel I had supplied made me cringe, but Vance assured me the slight scuffs from the carpet will come right out...  Sure hope so...  

[hemigeno]

More steering column closeups, including a really nice used electrical connector Vance found and cleaned up.

[Ghoste]

I'm liking that shifter. 

[hemigeno]

That shifter was one Vance used on the GTX he raced in his high school days.  It looked bulletproof     You should see the size of the shift rods - they had to be 5/8" or bigger... HUGE...

I was asking him about his tranny mods, and whether he did the "take out every other gear" routine like some do.  He said that if you paid careful attention to setting up the shift linkage and adjusting it properly, and making sure that the transmission gears/synchronizers were set up properly, he had NO problems slamming that monster shifter through the gears.  I'd still wager that he probably lunched a gearset or two...