XX engine on Craigslist

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Well, its just a little over two days left on the auction, so who is going to be the hero who buys it for Rick?

Several weeks ago after receiving a go-ahead from Rick, I planned to contact the seller... but received a phone call from a forum member to give Rick "more time".  Although I told him that seemed an odd request since this little drama had been going on for well over a year, but I decided to wait another two weeks.

Then last week the engine showed up on eBay again, this time without a reserve.  I contacted the seller for the first time late last week, and after some discussion we started to converge on a price.  We were still a ways off from a deal, but mainly due to the crating & shipping costs involved.  In preparation to make the seller a "best and final offer", I tried to get a good handle on the shipping costs.  I posted this thread on Moparts on Friday:

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=4986874&an=0&page=1#Post4986874

Then yesterday (Saturday) I checked out the new thread on "Bogus cars, Clones, & Outright Fraud??" and was stunned to see my plans mentioned in the first post.  Athough the thread starter has since explained that the title and parts of his post were not the best choice of words, and that using the engine would not be fraud (Whew...  ), the fact remains that I would be in for grief from some folks for having "Rick's 440".  Altogether I have been contacted by six forum members in the 15 months or so since the engine first surfaced and asked to "give Rick more time".  Of the six, one later told me that I had waited long enough and should buy the engine.

So, I decided yesterday not to buy the XX29L9B238099 engine because I don't need more headaches in my life...  Although Rick never contacted me about the engine, I understand his position on not buying it a lot more than those that think it would be a "crime" or somehow question my motives in wanting to use the engine in my C500 XX29L9B238071.

So the clock is ticking guys... time for someone (or a group of someones) to step forward and buy the engine for Rick.  If you don't do it now, the engine will probably drop out of sight again... or be used in who knows what.

Allen

[Ghoste]

Allen don't ever let something stupid that I wrote influence your decision.  I typed that as a random example for illustrative purposes to introduce some debate on restoration practices today. 
Personally I think you SHOULD buy it if Rick isn't.

[moparstuart]

 I hope petty bird gets it

[gtx6970]

I still think the motor is junk. Why would it ever be discarded in the first place?   

yeah , makes you wonder   , could just be back in the day it was pulled for a noisey botem end , & some one who ever had access to a then low milage 440 motor ,  1/2  day sawp..job done

oh at the risk of sounding thick ..what shill bid on ebay mean

the owner of the auctions or his friends WILL bid the part up to where they want it to sell for

Fixed it for you

[pettybird]

i'm already outbid.  I never should have posted what my bid was--you know for certain this thread is being watched. 


that $760 is bullshit, and everyone here knows it.

we'll see where it goes.

[69_500]

I'll agree, it wasn't too long after you made the post of $750 that the bid went up to $760. What was the lag time a couple of hours? If we didn't have to go out and buy a new car tomorrow I would be all for buying the engine if for nothing else than to have it sitting in my garage. Could i then claim to have 1 1/2 Charger 500's? JK

[PocketThunder]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Mopar-440-HP2-Dodge-Charger-500-XX29L9B-plymouth_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a10Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem280307403126QQitemZ280307403126QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

$815 with 9 hours left..   

[moparstuart]

911 now  shill bidders with low feed back numbers     


  NO rick i am not going  to bid on your motor , buy it and put it in the trunk of your 500 please

[moparstuart]

 I love ya rick , but no way in hell am i calling you in the middle of the day from work . I would never get off the phone 

[pettybird]

I have a funny feeling it's going to bid to around $1450...

odd how no one wanted it before but now it's a thousand dollar motor. 


FRANK YOU'RE A GIANT DOUCHE.  that doesn't let the Ricker off the hook, but it's true. 

[Ghoste]

FRANK YOU'RE A GIANT DOUCHE. 

And that's worth an Amen brother!!

[moparstuart]

I have a funny feeling it's going to bid to around $1450...

odd how no one wanted it before but now it's a thousand dollar motor. 


FRANK YOU'RE A GIANT DOUCHE.  that doesn't let the Ricker off the hook, but it's true. 

auction will end early

[moparstuart]

 I know your watching rick

[talkiemopar]

who me 

[WINGR]

Hey Rick, can't you just trade Frank a bunch of diecast's for that old motor? 

How y'all doing down there buddy, hope all is well.

WINGR/Steve

[70Sbird]

SOLD $1125.00

[moparstuart]

we shall see if it really sold ??

[WINGR]

It's a miracle, is this saga finally over.  

[moparstuart]

After talking to rick for an hour yesterday ( yes only and hour)  I understand that he just didnt have the money to buy the motor. You could tell he really wants the motor , but with all kinds of medical bills at this time. He had to think of his family first .   They have been helping out there son who had surgery , rick had surgery and sherry is having health problems also .

[Ghoste]

Which is ultimately the right decision to make.  So, should we start a pool for when it comes up on the bag again?

[pettybird]

After talking to rick for an hour yesterday ( yes only and hour)  I understand that he just didnt have the money to buy the motor. You could tell he really wants the motor , but with all kinds of medical bills at this time. He had to think of his family first .   They have been helping out there son who had surgery , rick had surgery and sherry is having health problems also .

i understand, but he has other stuff he doesn't need that WOULD sell.  you offered him 2 grand for the rusted out nose--that leaves him with a motor and $800 clear.  if he had no money, no parts and no way to get the money it would be another story.  there's a '69 440HP sitting next to the 500 that's not needed, a barn full of parts and a house full of toys.  any of my spare crap would gladly be auctioned off for my original parts. 

I'll be purging myself of parts to throw the 5.7 hemi in Marty. 

2000+ feedbacks says the motor might actually go away this time.  what a shame.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

After talking to rick for an hour yesterday ( yes only and hour)  I understand that he just didnt have the money to buy the motor. You could tell he really wants the motor , but with all kinds of medical bills at this time. He had to think of his family first .   They have been helping out there son who had surgery , rick had surgery and sherry is having health problems also .

i understand, but he has other stuff he doesn't need that WOULD sell.  you offered him 2 grand for the rusted out nose--that leaves him with a motor and $800 clear.  if he had no money, no parts and no way to get the money it would be another story.  there's a '69 440HP sitting next to the 500 that's not needed, a barn full of parts and a house full of toys.  any of my spare crap would gladly be auctioned off for my original parts. 

I'll be purging myself of parts to throw the 5.7 hemi in Marty. 

2000+ feedbacks says the motor might actually go away this time.  what a shame.

Unless a friend is being a Mopar Santa, I believe the engine is now long gone... a wasted once in a lifetime opportunity.  Certainly not important when compared to health issues, but a full year is a lot of time to arrange funding IMO.

The final bid amount is just slighty less than the seller told me would take, and he later said he would consider an offer.  We also talked about trades, even partial trades.  He seemed to be receptive to a variety of solutions that would limit the loss that he knew he would take on the motor deal.

The best hope other than a Mopar Santa friend is that a prospective future owner of the C500 bought the engine for that eventuality.  Other possibilities are a new investor who will advertise the engine for another year, or worse yet that it will end up in a hotrod being flogged down the strip on "NOZZ".

Whoever he is, the bidder seems like a legit buyer based on his feedback level and bid activity... see image below.

So now, where are all the cheap 1969 date code correct standard bore 440 HP engines that I was told by some folks are available for a fraction what this one sold for...

XS

[petercharger]

 

[moparstuart]

After talking to rick for an hour yesterday ( yes only and hour)  I understand that he just didnt have the money to buy the motor. You could tell he really wants the motor , but with all kinds of medical bills at this time. He had to think of his family first .   They have been helping out there son who had surgery , rick had surgery and sherry is having health problems also .

i understand, but he has other stuff he doesn't need that WOULD sell.  you offered him 2 grand for the rusted out nose--that leaves him with a motor and $800 clear.  if he had no money, no parts and no way to get the money it would be another story.  there's a '69 440HP sitting next to the 500 that's not needed, a barn full of parts and a house full of toys.  any of my spare crap would gladly be auctioned off for my original parts. 

I'll be purging myself of parts to throw the 5.7 hemi in Marty. 

2000+ feedbacks says the motor might actually go away this time.  what a shame.

Unless a friend is being a Mopar Santa, I believe the engine is now long gone... a wasted once in a lifetime opportunity.  Certainly not important when compared to health issues, but a full year is a lot of time to arrange funding IMO.

The final bid amount is just slighty less than the seller told me would take, and he later said he would consider an offer.  We also talked about trades, even partial trades.  He seemed to be receptive to a variety of solutions that would limit the loss that he knew he would take on the motor deal.

The best hope other than a Mopar Santa friend is that a prospective future owner of the C500 bought the engine for that eventuality.  Other possibilities are a new investor who will advertise the engine for another year, or worse yet that it will end up in a hotrod being flogged down the strip on "NOZZ".

Whoever he is, the bidder seems like a legit buyer based on his feedback level and bid activity... see image below.

So now, where are all the cheap 1969 date code correct standard bore 440 HP engines that I was told by some folks are available for a fraction what this one sold for...

XS

if you find a couple of those cheap correct dated engines allen I need one also

[pettybird]

there's one sitting in KY next to the 500...