XX engine on Craigslist

[41husk]

I hope this guy grows some morals and lets the power plant go back home!!!

[PocketThunder]

Yep, you're correct tantop.  I neglected to spell out that the full VIN stampings started with the beginning of the '69 model year - which began in August of 1968.  It ended sometime in January '69, depending on which Assembly Plant you're talking about.

What happened after January '69?

[moparstuart]

 I fired off rick an email hopefully he will contact him again ?

[hemigeno]

Yep, you're correct tantop.  I neglected to spell out that the full VIN stampings started with the beginning of the '69 model year - which began in August of 1968.  It ended sometime in January '69, depending on which Assembly Plant you're talking about.

What happened after January '69?

For whatever reason, they truncated the VIN to just the year & plant designator, and the six digit sequence number (e.g. 9B412543 for my Daytona).  Prior to that, you could tell what exact model of car the engine/tranny came from.  After that, you couldn't really tell what it came from unless you knew the full VIN of the car with that sequence number from that assembly plant from that model year.

Typical Chrysler... something works fine, but they change it anyway   

[hemi68charger]

Yep, you're correct tantop.  I neglected to spell out that the full VIN stampings started with the beginning of the '69 model year - which began in August of 1968.  It ended sometime in January '69, depending on which Assembly Plant you're talking about.

What happened after January '69?

For whatever reason, they truncated the VIN to just the year & plant designator, and the six digit sequence number (e.g. 9B412543 for my Daytona).  Prior to that, you could tell what exact model of car the engine/tranny came from.  After that, you couldn't really tell what it came from unless you knew the full VIN of the car with that sequence number from that assembly plant from that model year.

Typical Chrysler... something works fine, but they change it anyway   

Geno,,
Isn't that what MaMopar started to do with the stampings in 1970? I could swear that my '70 v-code Charger's stamping has the format like your Daytona's block.. Maybe this was a precursor to the '70 model year? After all, the Daytona was "supposed" to be a '70 model....

[hemigeno]

Paul, all the assembly plants started doing the truncated VIN stamping sometime in December '68 or January '69 (I know the St. Louis plant was stamping full VINs into at least the 2nd or 3rd week of 1969).  That included all the models, not just Daytonas.  I've seen a number of later-year Charger R/Ts and other B-bodies with the same shortened format.  Another example is the fact that all of the A12 6-pack cars have the 9Axxxxxx format - none have the full VIN that I know of.  It wasn't any special treatment given to the Daytonas.

After the mess of 1968 (did they stamp S.O. numbers or VINs?  Depends on who you ask), someone at Chrysler obviously figured that the full VIN was the way to go.  Stamping the full VIN probably took too much time on the part of the burp gun operator to spin the dials to the right numbers/letters for each model, since they intentionally mixed up their car lines in sequence to help with parts supplies.  Stamping just the model year and the plant meant that they only had to change the last few number dials regularly.  It very well could have been an accounting move to save money by truncating the stamping.  Same way with the radiator yoke and trunk lip stamps - why do the full stamp when the partial stamp does the trick?  Makes it harder for us now, but I doubt that thought even crossed their minds.

They stuck with the same format for a good while after the half-way point of 1969 or so, guess it worked for them.

[PocketThunder]

Damn, i learn something new everyday.

thanks Gene 

[xs29j8Bullitt]

principle or not rick needs to buy the damn thing for $1500.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!  ...at $1500 somebody will buy it if he doesn't

[69_500]

If it is at $1,500 then I'm sure rick will pick it up. I think that he had offered $1,500 for it previously, but at the time the owner of the block was thinking $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[xs29j8Bullitt]

If it is at $1,500 then I'm sure rick will pick it up. I think that he had offered $1,500 for it previously, but at the time the owner of the block was thinking $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

The ad says $1500 on my screen... time is running out!

[Ghoste]

That is considerably less than before.  Could he be coming around?

[WingCharger]

So it is know what 500 gets this engine? It has been matched? Any way, that engine is worth a pretty penny.

[Ghoste]

It's an ongoing saga.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,43228.0.html

[WingCharger]

Hope he gets the block!

[tan top]

principle or not rick needs to buy the damn thing for $1500.

    yep

[pettybird]

someone PM me his number and i'll bust his chops tomorrow. 

i had it in my last phone, but it died...

[moparstuart]

 email sent

[69_500]

So did ya call him today Doug?

[moparstuart]

So did ya call him today Doug?

i would have but doug volenteered and i didnt figure i needed a 12 hour phone coversation 

[C500]

The engine is back on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Mopar-440-HP2-Dodge-Charger-500-XX29L9B238099-RT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a3Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem270275847854QQitemZ270275847854

[C500]

The engine is back on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Mopar-440-HP2-Dodge-Charger-500-XX29L9B238099-RT_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a3Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem270275847854QQitemZ270275847854

Thought I would post it on both threads about this engine before someone else does...perhaps a merge is on the cards mods?

   

[moparstuart]

 i sure wish rick would buy it

[Ghoste]

A lesson for profiteers everywhere?

[Old Moparz]

It's funny how this old engine core with an unknown history & condition is still hanging around the classifieds. 

For a 440 HP to be sitting around all these years without being used, I'll still go with my first post & say it's scrap metal. 

[moparstuart]

IT'S BACK ON AGAIN       http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Mopar-440-HP2-Dodge-Charger-500-XX29L9B-plymouth_W0QQitemZ270326627259QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item270326627259&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A64%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318