(stock) A/C delete on my 69 Charger, do I need the P/S pump pulley too?

[CB]

I know I need to change the water pump pulley/crank pulley to line up the belts when deleting the stock A/C.
Do I need to change the power steering pulley too?
If so I consider the 440Source 'Complete Engine Front Ends' kit:

Our NON-AC, WITH power steering "Engine front end kits" fit all "B" and "RB" engines. Kits include the following parts:
Part No: 132-1001 - Double Groove Crank Pulley - New Reproduction. Price: $54.95
Part No: 101-1076 - Bolt kit - Lower pulley to damper - Qty: 6 - Price: $7.95
Part No: 138-1001 - V-Belt - Alternator & Water Pump drive - Non A/C -  NEW - Price: $14.95
Part No: 138-1002 - V-Belt - Power Steering drive -  NEW -  Price: $14.95
Part No: 132-1002 - Water Pump Pulley - Non A/C - New Reproduction. Price: $34.95
Part No: 127-1007 - Alternator Bracket kit - Factory Style - NEW -  Price: $14.95
Part No: 109-1511 - Alternator Bolt Kit - Price: $12.95
Part No: 109-1512 - Water Pump Housing  Bolt Kit - Price: $9.95
Part No: 118-1003 - Alternator - Dual Field / Single Pulley - Price: $49.95
Part No: 109-1513 - Bolt kit - Power Steering - New. Price: $14.95.
Part No: 138-1010 - Power Steering Cap - New Reproduction - Saginaw Style: $12.95
Part No: 127-1006 - Power Steering Pump Brackets - Saginaw Style - New Reproduction: $29.95
Part No: 132-1003 - Power Steering Pulley - Saginaw w/Key - New Reproduction. Price: $34.95
Part No: 138-1007 - Power Steering Pump - Saginaw w/Key - Price: $89.95

Buying all these parts from us separately, (even at our already incredibly low pricing) adds up to $398.30. BUT, since we're packing it all up into one convenient kit, we're going to knock ANOTHER 50 bucks off our standard pricing and offer the entire kit for only $349.95!

Thanks
CB

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 nope  ,  i just changed the  crank & water pump pulley & then changed to a none A/C alternator bracket  set up , lined up perfect with my original  saginaw pump

[CB]

wow instant reply 
thanks, dude!
CB

[Nacho-RT74]

alt brackets doesn't need really to be changed... for stock alt at least.

would need to be changed just for correct look purpouse... as stated for correct look at least

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alt brackets doesn't need really to be changed... for stock alt at least.

would need to be changed just for correct look purpouse... as stated for correct look at least

 

good point  Natcho      .just been thinking   the motor that was in mine came out of  a impreial ,  had some type of really heavy duty type cast trypod bracket fot the alternotor , which  mounted it 1 inch further forward .....      forgot all a bout this CB ,  but my Saginaw pump/  bracket & pulley , are factory  original to the car     

[Nacho-RT74]

maybe it was a Lecee Neville ( or kinda off ) alt and its brackets like this ( attachment ) ?

if so, of corse needs new brackets setup. That alt was used as far I know on HEAVILY EQUIPPED CARS like cop cars, maybe caps, and some C bodies. Taht alt feeds with 100 amps on stock form

The deal with the regular alts and its brackets is, as you know non A/C engines brackets fits in front section of water pump housing, being bigger and covering the water temp sender... thats the reason for the hole on bracket.  Then alt fits/hangs behind the bracket Lower bracket is a single piece of curved bracket

On A/C cars being the compresor use the front or outer bolts location on water housing, then upper alt bracket fits on a deeper bolt locations on water pump housing, at the same temp sender height, so thats the reason to be smaller and not cut for hole to acces to temp sender. Then on this setup the upper alt bracket is located behind the front "ear" of the alt. The diff and deeper location of bracket is the same deep than the Alt "ear" thick. Lower bracket remains on same location, just that is L shaped because does have an extra leg to bolt to the engine mounts provision, to get better reinforcement and save from vibrations when you turn on the compressor, but at the end JUST the alt bracket was moved but alternator remains at same height and same lined with everything on engine.

The only and really MANDATORY change on pulleys is really the water pump pulley, being deeper to meet with alt pulley and run belt with alternator, and steering pump use its own belt. If you change the crank pulley would it be just for correct look apapearence.

You can use your actuall pulleys setup... yes you can do it, but IF you run the alt with its own belt, will run TOO CLOSE to water pump and a bolt located there adn vibration will get friction between bolt and housing and belt... sooner or later belt can be broken OR bolt  ( rubber is able to cut the metal slowly, getting it worn ). That the reason to change the belt setup and use the alt and water pump on same line

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yeah Natcho      that looks a   similar   bracket  ,     but swapped that for a stock  69 b-body type , about 15 years ago   don't know about that alternator , motor came out of a 69 imperial   ,  in the car when i got  it  ,had the original round back alternator fitted to that with a multitude of spacers shims etc,

[69RTSEV88]

CB,
I just did the exact same thing on my 69 R/T 440.  I bought the 2 groove crank pulley, the non a/c waterpump pulley, and the non a/c alt mounting brackets, and alt bracket bolt kit all from 440source.  P/S pump, pulley and brackets are the same from a/c to non a/c cars, so you're fine there.  I don't think you will need to spend all that $$ on that entire kit, unless you want everything shiny & brand new.  The only other thing is that you probably have a 2 groove alt pulley which will work fine as long as your not going for a perfect looking eng compartment.  The alt belt will go into the groove closest to the alt.  BTW, 440source parts are awesome, and they shipped very fast!  Definite A++++ for them.

[Nacho-RT74]

as I'm telling, the only MANDATORY is water pump pulley to match with alt deeper groove and then run a new belt driving alt, water pump and crank... rest could stay if you are not on the correct look deal...

if you are on correct look deal, the upper alt bracket, alt groove change to single groove and crank pulley... lower alt bracket is diff too, BUT REALLY won't affect on how does look on engine bay.