True shame, 600 cars...gone

[FLG]

Well dont know if anyone has posted this or read it yet but i was browsing through a hot rodder mag and this came up

Page 2 starts the carnage pics, theres more on another page (not sure which one) but theres some sought after mopars in the mix

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=133401

Yep, alot of history gone...

Makes me absolutely sick. How could a person do such a thing? Obviously the cars are worth much more to sell then to crush...granted some are just too far gone, but why the hell would you leave them in a field for so long to rot?? Heck most of the sheet metal is readily available to rebuild alot of those sought after classics.

[Drache]

Page 5 has more pics!

Charger AND a Super Bee.... 

[FLG]

Remember 600 cars, so im sure there were plenty more

[Drache]

Remember 600 cars, so im sure there were plenty more

I was talking about just in the first 5 pictures. Page 5 shows more of the Charger and a 340 Duster....

THe blue charger was a Magnum 383 engine with air and power brakes.The keys were still in the ignition.

The 340 Duster was a standard trans. car and it still had everything intact under the hood and in the interior.

[FLG]

Gotcha. Still gotta think, how many could there have been? Possibly some hemi cars? Or a six pack in the bunch....truly makes me sick thinking about it.

[The70RT]

Pretty sad People get greedy and hoard them then they go to waste....what a shame 

[68charger383]

Even 25 years ago, that field of cars would have been worth $600,000 (600 x $1,000.00)

Sounds more like some skeletons in the trunks (Jimmy Hoffa) or stolen cars.

[JustinM]

depressing

[Big Lebowski]

There you go, proof of the Kyoto (Global warming) treaty right in front of you, right before your very own eyes. Here's how it works, every smashed car ('69 Charger or '89 Escort, etc.) is worth $$$ as an emission trading credit, meaning Wall St. buys & sells these credits to giant polluting factories. These factories are then allowed to generate the pollution that the smashed cars would have generated.

     I've been screaming about this for years, but the junkyards ran out Chargers & Coronets to smash long ago, so who cares now that they're smashing '85 Chrysler Fifth Avenue's and '89 Ford Escorts, etc. Not me.

     Your Charger is a gross polluting dinosaur, & the global warming tree hugging Kumbiya singing environmentalist whackos are very pleased with the car smashing program. Here in San Diego...it's donate your junker to Father Joe so he can feed the homeless, they will pick up your clunker & haul it away for free. Some of the (running) donated cars go to auction...and guess where the rest go...That's right, straight to the junkyard to be smashed.
    Father Joe hauls your clunker away for free so he can get the $$$ (emissions credits) to feed the homeless, which is a good thing actually. 

[Mike DC]

     

You can keep ranting about the Kyoto Protocol all you want, but it didn't have anything to do with the crushing of these 600 cars. 

If the Kyoto Protocol was actually doing any good at obsoleting the automobile, then China's auto industry wouldn't have driven the price of scrap steel up so high right now.




Those cars had to be either hot or else the family was just too rich & lazy to deal with it.  Sounds like the old man stubbornly held onto the stuff for decades so that his kids could scrap it right after he passed.  Great kids. 

 

[jmanscharger]

That many cars sitting around with no titles would be a legal liability and the local jursidiction(s) could find many fines to charge. Local collector here just sent a half dozen cars to crush because the country threatened with fines.  Local crusher recently charged for having cars with no titles (also charged for selling parts without license).  Doesn't necessarily mean hot, means state is losing revenues (from titles or licenses) will assess large fines instead., localities will try to fine for unsightly unlicensed untitled nuisance. 

[Charger_Fan]

Legal issues aside, that's just a sad sight. Plain & simple.

I'm sure there are tons of other places just like this one too, that we just haven't heard of yet...way back in the sticks, out of sight from the world...slowly returning to Mother Earth.

[squeakfinder]

                  WOW! I hope I don't ever get senile and do something like this.

[Big Lebowski]

     

You can keep ranting about the Kyoto Protocol all you want, but it didn't have anything to do with the crushing of these 600 cars. 

If the Kyoto Protocol was actually doing any good at obsoleting the automobile, then China's auto industry wouldn't have driven the price of scrap steel up so high right now.
 

   Maybe so, but you pointed out the main flaw of the kyoto treaty...China, India, Mexico, & 136 other countries are exempt from the treaty and actually have the most polluted cities on Earth.

[2Gunz]

If you read the thread the owners claim to have done it because people where stealing stuff.

And that they are worried that liablity issues of people on their property.

While it sucks hard, I really cant blame the owner.

Get one check one time and have the problem done with in a few weeks.

Or spend the next 20 years parting it out to overly curious and interested people
like myself.

[Mike DC]

Maybe so, but you pointed out the main flaw of the kyoto treaty...China, India, Mexico, & 136 other countries are exempt from the treaty and actually have the most polluted cities on Earth.

You can call that a flaw, but it sounds an awful lot like proof that the KP really works to clean up the air. 



IMHO the Kyoto protocol is an extreme measure that won't happen here any time soon.  Al Gore can use it to rile up his base, but it's not much real threat of happening.  The USA has gone to war over things that hurt our economy a lot less than it would. 

Stuff like that is bigger than any one president IMHO.  If Al Gore tried to adopt it with all the conditions being just like they stand right now, he'd end up in the back of a convertible being driven past a grassy knoll. 
 
 

[WingCharger]

I mean, who would collect over 600 cars, and then let them sit like that!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?

Dont you think they would get the idea when trees started growing around them, maybe they should sell. I just cant express my anger over this!

Oh, Hoffa is actually in the bumper of our VW rabbit in the garage.

[Lowprofile]

A very sad story ............ so many good cars....Mopar, GM, and all other makes. What a shame. 

[MoparManJim]

Man, what is wrong with thos dounder heads? Some day they'll need a part and won't we won't have any and when they wonder why we don't we can just say "look at these photos" thats why!!   

These guys most be in for the new cars and stuff an not the old stuff like we all are. 

[BB1]

Camaro.net wtf 

[squeakfinder]

The problem I have with it is, the cars were collected and nothing was done with them. Why keep stacking them up?

Hire a company to come in an auction every thing off. Scrap what doesn't sell.

[Kevin68N71]

On the other hand, how many of those cars still had decent frames left?  The sheetmetal might look good from the pictures, and you can push your finger though the fenders I'll bet.  Missing carbs, radiators, other pieces and parts.  Face it guys, most of those cars are likely junk.

You could take that Super Bee, and plow more money into it than buying a driver with little rust to start with, and still not get to a decent level.  I know some of you are brave and have no problem welding in new frame rails, or sectioning a few cars to make one good one, but most of us I don't think would go for that.  Looks to me mostly like rust buckets with little value, especially in a soft market. How many of you on this board are tackling projects that have sat for years rusting in a forest?  I'll be less than 5% have project cars this bad.

Yes, the cars could be disassembled and sold for more on EBAY.  How many years would that take?

I have a friend whose mom lost her mind, and he went back to their farmhouse in Iowa to start the painstaking task of cleaning the house up to sell it or rent it.  He was there for a month and barely scratched the surface.  He was GIVING tools away and taking pennies on the dollar for power stuff just to get rid of it.  Some neighbors were surprised as to why he didn't "put ads in the paper" or "sell the things on ebay".  With what time?  Sure, it may have yielded some more bucks, but there is no time and he has much better things to think about.

So here are some rusting cars--with no clue how bad they are as you can't see under them, in a tick and snake filled forest.  I don't feel so bad that they are junked--they already are junk--as much as feel bad for them being thrown out there years ago in the elements.

[squeakfinder]

  I don't feel so bad that they are junked--they already are junk--as much as feel bad for them being thrown out there years ago in the elements.

Thats basically what I meant.

[Mike DC]

 
As if they couldn't have found someone to buy the whole lot at once.  600 classic-era American cars at a huge markdown?  Put it on Ebay & a few nationwide ads, and it probably wouldn't have been difficult at all.


Those cars probably got scrapped because of shady dealings with them at some point in the past. 

[miller]

Well, say good bye to a charger.