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Holley VS Edelbrock intake???

Started by Tarzan, August 24, 2008, 04:28:47 PM

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Tarzan

What is the difference between the Holley street dominator and Edelbrock Performer RPM intake?

I have the SD intake and it works good but everyone keeps telling me that I have to get the RPM intake instead of the SD.

Why is that? How many horsepowers will I gain?



firefighter3931

Quote from: Tarzan on August 24, 2008, 04:28:47 PM
What is the difference between the Holley street dominator and Edelbrock Performer RPM intake?

I have the SD intake and it works good but everyone keeps telling me that I have to get the RPM intake instead of the SD.

Why is that? How many horsepowers will I gain?





On a mild build there's not much difference between them.....the RPM dual plane will make more torque down low but will give up some hp up top if your engine has enough cam and cylinder head flow to pull over 6000 rpm.

If i allready had a Street Dominator i would not go out and buy a Performer Rpm.  :Twocents:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Steve P.

But if you want to get rid of that SD, you just let me know....  ;)
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Ghoste

I'd sell you mine but then I'd most likely end up having to go back to an Edelbrock.  :nana:

Tarzan

The engine is only a MILD build so then it wont make any difference?
The Edelbrock RPM intake cost around 400 dollars here in Norway, so im not gonna get it if it will stay the same HP.

Are you 100% sure that it wont make that much difference, firefighter3931???

If you say so, then I wont do it. (if its a waste of money)


Joshs68


rav440

Quote from: Tarzan on August 25, 2008, 04:36:11 AM
The engine is only a MILD build so then it wont make any difference?
The Edelbrock RPM intake cost around 400 dollars here in Norway, so im not gonna get it if it will stay the same HP.

Are you 100% sure that it wont make that much difference, firefighter3931???

If you say so, then I wont do it. (if its a waste of money)



im sure RON is more than a %100 SURE .  :2thumbs:
1973 PLYMOUTH road runner GTX



firefighter3931

Thanks Randy  :cheers:


Yep, i'm sure there's not enough difference to justify spending $400 on a manifold for no improvement. It might make slightly more torque down low but the average 2000-6000 HP/TQ power numbers will be near identical. The money is better spent elsewhere, inmo.  ;)



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

mindless1

Hi - just a quick tagalong question on to this post -

Granting that the SD and the Edelbrock Performer RPM are essentially the same performance - are both a worthwhile upgrade over the stock 69 440 intake?

flyinlow

I have both. I run a thermoquad on the SD. and a Edelbrock eps 800 on the RPM intake. RPM feels a little stronger of the line. SD pulls harder 5000rpm+. Part of the low end difference is probably the carb.

SD. fits under the hood better. Does not need kickdown linkage mods.
,
If I had bought the SD first and had to pay $400 for the RPM I would not switch. I got both of mine at swap meets, made an offer and  then suggested to the guy that cash was alot lighter to carry home. He agreed.

firefighter3931

Quote from: flyinlow on January 12, 2009, 07:50:35 PM

I got both of mine at swap meets, made an offer and then suggested to the guy that cash was alot lighter to carry home. He agreed.



Great line  :2thumbs:...i'll have to remember that one next time i encounter a stubborn/overpriced swap meet vendor.  :icon_smile_big:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

mindless1

Is the concensus that the 200 bucks for an Edlebrock Performer RPM intake over a 69 stock 440 hp manifold is money well spent?  I have a Carter 650 carb now but plan on increasing that size soon.  Car is generally stock now - 10.5-1 pistons, fairly mild cam, 3.23 rear end, stock exhaust manifold, etc. 

I intend to do a new msd/mallory ignition box as well.

Thanks in advance for all the great info.

Steve P.

You might also think about increasing the size of the new carb. A 650 on a 383 is a bit tight in my opinion.
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

firefighter3931

Quote from: mindless1 on January 12, 2009, 10:41:31 PM
Is the concensus that the 200 bucks for an Edlebrock Performer RPM intake over a 69 stock 440 hp manifold is money well spent?  I have a Carter 650 carb now but plan on increasing that size soon.  Car is generally stock now - 10.5-1 pistons, fairly mild cam, 3.23 rear end, stock exhaust manifold, etc. 

I intend to do a new msd/mallory ignition box as well.

Thanks in advance for all the great info.


Yep the 650 carb is waay too small...especially on a 440 using a dual plane intake manifold.  :yesnod:

The factory HP intake manifolds of that era are fairly descent so depending on the cam and cylinder head flow there might not be huge gains going with the RPM intake manifold.  ;)

The high rise RPM also requires modification to the kickdown & throttle linkage as well as a drop base aircleaner assembly to clear the stock hood. It works great....in the right application, but in your case it's probably not worth the hassle.  :Twocents:

Spend the money elsewhere....


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Ghoste

And yes, 200 bucks for the Performer RPM is money well spent over the stock intake.

62 Max

Quote from: Ghoste on January 13, 2009, 04:55:23 AM
And yes, 200 bucks for the Performer RPM is money well spent over the stock intake.


And a CH4B at about $150 is a better deal yet. :icon_smile_big:

firefighter3931

Quote from: 62 Max on January 13, 2009, 11:15:48 AM
Quote from: Ghoste on January 13, 2009, 04:55:23 AM
And yes, 200 bucks for the Performer RPM is money well spent over the stock intake.


And a CH4B at about $150 is a better deal yet. :icon_smile_big:



:iagree: The CH4B is the premiere replacement manifold....looks stock yet has killer power potential with the right parts. Edelbrock needs to re-issue these manifolds....much like Holley did with the Street Dominator.  :yesnod:




Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Ghoste

And I would agree as well, I was just answering the question as asked.  :2thumbs:

Tarzan

Would a stock intake fit better than the Holley street dominator intake? It seems like alot of people hate the SD intake.

Should I get a dual plane?

The RPM intake is too high and will make trouble with the hood I have,  so what else is there to do?

Ghoste

Who hates the SD?  Mine fits and works great.

Steve P.

I wouldn't mind a few hanging around here.....
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

Tarzan

I have decided to get a new intake now and I still havent made up my mind.

The rpm wont fit so what else should I get. All of friends tells me to get a dual plane intake.

Which one should I get???

Mopar,edelbrock performer???

Old intake or a new?


Ghoste

The Performer is just an aluminum version of the factory one.  If the RPM won't fit, the other two touted in this thread are both great-CH4B or Street Dominator.

G-man

Whoever told you to get a RPM in place of the Street dominator...  :slap: :icon_smile_blackeye: and  :slap:

Tarzan

Thinking about getting the CH4B intake.

Have read a lot of good things about it.

How is it compared to the street dominator???

Will it fit under he hood without any modifications?



What about this:

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Tarzan

I just bought the EDELBROCK CH4B intake,

Do I need any linkage or anything? I have a Street Dominator now with a Holley carb.


Can`t wait to put it on. Hopefully make some more POWER