is there a FULL VIN# somewhere stamped on a 2nd gen Charger please?

[CB]

The car inspection refused to register my Charger because they couldn't find a full VIN# on the car (frame).
The vin tag on the dashboard is not enough, the fender tag is also not enough...

So is there a full (XP29H9Bxxxxxx ) number on a Charger stamped somewhere? I noticed numbers on the radiator support but that's not the complete VIN#.

If not, I am forced to pay a towing to a licenced homologation company + homologation + a new inspection.

I already throw away 150 bucks for nothing 
Thanks
CB

[Charger-Bodie]

The only FULL Vehicle Identification Number on the body of you're Charger should be the dash plate.

[resq302]

Wow.  Sounds like they are being a bunch of real A-holes.  Even if you have the title that has the VIN, they won't inspect it?  You should also tell them that there are supposed "hidden" partial VINs on the car but unless they want to take the entire car apart, they will never see them with the car assembled.

[69charger2002]

what did they do on the cuda when you got it? unless it had a fender tag and this one doesn;t?? all of them only have the partial VIN on them. man i can't imagine what they would do if you brought a 68 over, and the VIN doesn't match the rad support at all. talk about a mess
trav

[CB]

talk about a mess....indeed...

[tan top]

no full vin  stamped on the body 
    only the last six numbers   of the vin on the  core( radiator) support  &  under the trunk rubber weather strip ..on the drivers side about half way down    ...... what about the vin on the motor & trans ..if yours is a early 69 car ...ie built in late 68 it will have the full vin on the transmission & motor ,  but  the later 69 cars part vin should still be ok .. ......... what  a bout the broadcast sheet ... show  these guys that & match the fender tag , vin plate   body numbers  up with that  ...

[Nacho-RT74]

On 3rd gens there is an extra tag hidden down the rear package tray, far driver side rear corner... but still a plate, not on sheetmetal

[Finn]

If you were to buy a metal stamp kit and place it somewhere yourself, what are the chances of them knowing its not factory?

[Charger1973]

If you were to buy a metal stamp kit and place it somewhere yourself, what are the chances of them knowing its not factory?

Considering they dont know that there isnt a VIN and dont know where to look for this supposed full VIN, I would say they wouldnt have a clue.

[BB1]

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

[CB]

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

In a mater of fact, yes, many times, but your government uses one of the hardest immigration policy in the world. 

[Musicman]

The only thing required for a vehicle built prior to 1981 in my state is a Bill Of Sale 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Would engine or trans suffice?  Most times there is a full VIN stamped there if its #'s matching

[PocketThunder]

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

In a mater of fact, yes, many times, but your government uses one of the hardest immigration policy in the world. 

C'mon, people are moving here every day in droves!   

[69charger2002]

all you have to do is move to mexico first, then jump a damn fence or swim through a river   

[hemi-hampton]

Here in Michigan I just needed a Cop to look at my Vin in Windsheild. When I showed him the Vin on fender tag & core support he said it was not necessary & then seemed surprise they were there & I knew what each letter meant    LEON

[CB]

Would engine or trans suffice?  Most times there is a full VIN stamped there if its #'s matching

the numbers need to be stamped on the frame so it can't be replaced easily.
it is a #'s matching car but they don't give a damn.
I read about this common issue that the owner should write to the appropriate authorities to obtain the permission to get it stamped in.
you got to send in all the papers like the title, broadcastsheet, bill of sale, etc and they will 'get back to you'...
yes you guessed it ..., it can take up to 8 weeks if you are an unlucky person 

I allready lost half of my 2 week vacation hunting down the electrical bug in my Charger and get it licenced
I am afraid cruising season is over for me

[rav440]

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

In a mater of fact, yes, many times, but your government uses one of the hardest immigration policy in the world. 

really   
maybe move to friggn mexico first . then you should be able to walk right in with no problem .

as for the VIN# what more do they want ?  the FULL VIN is on the dash plate hense VIN TAG . i wonder if they think there should be more #s because new cars have 16-18 digits insted of the 13 or so from the old days 

[rav440]

Would engine or trans suffice?  Most times there is a full VIN stamped there if its #'s matching

the numbers need to be stamped on the frame so it can't be replaced easily.
it is a #'s matching car but they don't give a damn.
I read about this common issue that the owner should write to the appropriate authorities to obtain the permission to get it stamped in.
you got to send in all the papers like the title, broadcastsheet, bill of sale, etc and they will 'get back to you'...
yes you guessed it ..., it can take up to 8 weeks if you are an unlucky person 

I allready lost half of my 2 week vacation hunting down the electrical bug in my Charger and get it licenced
I am afraid cruising seison is over for me

how can the #s be stamped on the frame ? when there is no frame . i really dont understand what these guys want . being a UNIBODY car i would think the #s stamped elsewhere on the car should surfice .
isnt there any other inspection place you can take the CHARGER to ? say like guys that dont have  thier heads up thier ass .

[RDR838]

I wonder what those guys (those inspectors) think they are there for? To get cars licensed or to find whatever reason thinkable not get them licensed!

My car needed the VIN stamped into the frame aswell before registering my car (in Germany that is) and it had to be on the passenger's side.

I did it myself, borrowed the tools for it and the inspector was happy. Why should you need to get the permission to get it stamped in? Just do it. There can't be a law saying you're not allowed to stamp the VIN into your car! I've seen VINs cauterised (is that the right word? using acid to write the letters and numbers 'into' the glass) into all the windows of a car. That's not illegal I guess?

If you stamped the VIN in to the frame now and told the inspector you coincidentally found that VIN and think some previous owner did that back in the states, what could he say? And what yould be the difference between the VIN that was stamped in with permission and the one without?

Stories like these make me mad!

Good luck!

RDR838

[mikepmcs]

I wonder if that is the reason newer cars have the vins everywhere, dash plates, door pillars, etc....

sorry for your troubles, hope it gets sorted quickly.   

v/r
Mike

[Charger_Fan]

Man, that's really lame. Hope it works out well for you.





Oh & just practice saying "no habla engleese", they'll let you right in AND give you lots of free stuff to reward you for your efforts.

[Nacho-RT74]

now I'm wondering... how it was with your earliers mopars ?

[CB]

now I'm wondering... how it was with your earliers mopars ?

NEVER had troubles with them, always inspected with my old plates
(all got registred without having a stamped vin#: '70 Chrysler 300, '72 Charger, '69 Charger, '72 Barracuda and also my other cars : '70 Ranchero GT and '64 Impala) 

[ChargerSG]

Same thing here in Sweden, but cars older than 69(68 and back) dont need it. Every Charger i had(never own a 68) i had to have it stamped on the pass framerail, you have to have it heated like hell to stamp it(and it have to be right size on the numbers to). Just idiotic rules that the EU have made up... Hope it works out for you.

[chargerboy69]

Have you ever thought about moving to North America?

In a mater of fact, yes, many times, but your government uses one of the hardest immigration policy in the world. 

Just come through are southern border. Believe me, nobodys watching.  

You could drive the Charger across and no one would say a word.

[RDR838]

Same thing here in Sweden, but cars older than 69(68 and back) dont need it. Every Charger i had(never own a 68) i had to have it stamped on the pass framerail, you have to have it heated like hell to stamp it(and it have to be right size on the numbers to). Just idiotic rules that the EU have made up... Hope it works out for you.

You're right I found something saying cars first registered till 09-30-1969 wouldn't need the stamped VIN. Looks like my inspector was an idiot, too! He even made me install a towing eye that wasn't mandatory until the late seventies...

I would bet these rules would be valid all over the EU, as I said Christian, if I were you, I would just stamp that VIN in myself and/or maybe look for another inspector.

[nakita7]

Personally, I would tell them, there's the VIN, that's all you get, now what's the problem?

[69 rt]

CB
I cannot believe the problems you are having just to get a car inspected. Surley these guys are not your friends, or is it that your country is trying to keep these cars from entering?

Stenton

[CB]

I am going over to the station tomorrow and have a talk with the man in charge.
I'll bring my broadcast sheet, pics of the #'s engine, custom papers of the USA and the Netherlands where the car arrived, invoice of the car, ect and try to explane that Chargers never had a full VIN# stamped on the car.
I hope he's in a good mood and allow me to bring over the Charger.

Keep your fingers crossed for me will ya?
CB

[hemi-hampton]

You just need a different Inspector. Another one of those ask 5 different Inspectors get 5 different answers type of thing. Good Luck. LEON.

[71gtx]

On 3rd gens there is an extra tag hidden down the rear package tray, far driver side rear corner... but still a plate, not on sheetmetal

hud  there is  vin on a plate on the cowl but not a rear package tray ON 71-74 BODY

VIN IS  the dash the door fenner tag rad broadcastsheet and on a plate on the cowl

[Arthu®]

This has been a rule in the EU for a long time now, the full VIN number needs to be stamped in the passenger side frame for proper registration. You can try doing it yourself, I did it on a old Jeep that had been in the Netherlands forever, and they inspected it and didn't say anything about correct letters or anything (they are supposed to be a certain type). If you have a real a-hole though he will want to have the correct lettering for it and unless you have a friend with the department who can get you set, I doubt they sell it in any store. I wouldn't know where to get it.

Good luck, in this case it's a stupid law, but it was created for a reason. Namely that there is a standard place to look for a vehicle's identity that can't be easily removed.

Arthur

[CB]

Today I called to the right authorities and this is what I need to do:
stamp in the full VIN# into the frame, bring the Charger over to the approval office (Mercedes-Chrysler head quarters), there they will verify the car with her number, I pay 85 bucks and will receive a certificate which I need to show to the inspector.

But now I am experience some troubles with the old ignition system so I am going to take care of it first.

As you see the calvary hasn't end yet
CB

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Hi Christian,

that sucks. Hoped to see you in antwerp last weekend at the APOW.
As Christian wrote it before they want to have a VIN stamped in offcially.
But it also differs. My local county inspection gives nothing about it and I don't need to stamp anything into my cars which isn't original.
Good luck in getting it on the road quickly

Regards

Carsten

[RD]

Just come through are southern border. Believe me, nobodys watching.

You could drive the Charger across and no one would say a word.

hell, the americans would give him a thumbs up and tell him to burn some rubber!

[Nacho-RT74]

On 3rd gens there is an extra tag hidden down the rear package tray, far driver side rear corner... but still a plate, not on sheetmetal

hud  there is  vin on a plate on the cowl but not a rear package tray ON 71-74 BODY

VIN IS  the dash the door fenner tag rad broadcastsheet and on a plate on the cowl

well mine does... of curse my car is assemblied outside USA and that could be a reason but I THINK somebody found one in that area up there too 

[WingCharger]

Hey, I just read in MCG, there is a full vin under the weatherstripping in the trunk, at least on Coronets! It was on a Hemi R/T Coronet that the first owner put a 383 and Super Bee tags on to save insurance money.

Would this be the same for Chargers?

[mikepmcs]

Hey, I just read in MCG, there is a full vin under the weatherstripping in the trunk, at least on Coronets! It was on a Hemi R/T Coronet that the first owner put a 383 and Super Bee tags on to save insurance money.

Would this be the same for Chargers?

Sorry WC I believe it's just the last 6 on the trunk for a Charger.(ie: mine says 101771 or something pretty close to that)