fuel/ignition problem, getting frustrated // update 08/19 she RRRRUNS...

[CB]

so the Charger ran and drove OK. they 've delivered the car, drained the gas tank (for shippig over seas) and 2 months later the car arrives finally.
I went over to the warehouse to check out the car and tried to start it. It turns over but no start. The guy put some gas into the carb, jump started the car... nothing. He replied  '' it must be an ignition problem ''
1 Week later I picked her up, tried the same procedure: nothing, only turns over, no start. Hauled it home, gave her a good wash and then start to check the mechanical part.

Fuel test: removed fuel line from carb to pump, 3 drops of gas in the fuel filter. When pushing the pedal no gas squirting into the carb. Tried it again with some gas directly into the carb, no result.

ignition test: I borrowed a 'one you know it works' coil, hooked it up, tried again, nothing. With a Volt meter tested that both terminals read 6V. On both coils. So I assume my coil is still OK.

So what you suggest to look for as I am really desperate to hear the car running.
Thanks for you help!
CB

[CB]

Scott pointed out that the sending unit filter could be clogged. I just removed the unit and noticed that no gas was comming out of the unit nor out of the tube departing from the outlet. So I can suspect a bad gas pump but still, the car should be running when poring some gas in the carb, right?
Thanks
CB

[Harlow]

You could try hooking up a timing light to the #1 wire and cranking the engine. You should see your timing light flashing. That will tell you if your getting spark or not. I wasn't aware that you had tried just pouring fuel directly into the carb. If it won't even fire at all with fuel down the carb its gotta be spark related.

[tan top]

if it were me i would go through all the electrics ... make sure you have a spark ...check every thing ... who knows what the customs in your country got up to , maybe even the guys on the boat when  it come over on     ..... sock filter looks dirty any way ,  might as well clean it  ..or fit a new one while the senders out , or leave it off & put a in line filter between the carb & pump .  take all the plugs out & inspect them also .............

[CB]

Thanks for your advise!
So I will install a new gas pump, just to make sure the fuel delivery is OK.
Together with a filter between tank/pump and pump/carb I will be on the safe side.
So far the fuel issue.


About the ignition, I tested with the coil wire against metal and a tiny spark shows when cranking the engine. Should be a fat spark, no?
The rotor cap and rotor look clean, nothing burned.

[tan top]

hmmmm     check the firing  also ..you never know whos been looking under the hood & or playing 

[CB]

hmmmm     check the firing  also ..you never know whos been looking under the hood & or playing 

the problem is that I still don't have a manual so gotta go search the net for the right firing order.
I started with this car taking everything for granted.
Better wake up and deal with it
CB

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Mopar Information:HomeChrysler, Dodge And Plymouth EnginesGeneral


Mopar Information: Engine Specifications Chart 1966-1974

 
Firing Order For Chrysler, Plymouth, Dodge:

Slant 6 = 1-5-3-6-2-4 | V8 (all) = 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2

[CB]

 
Worked all weekend on the car. Checked the wires, cleaned and checked everything, used another coil and still nothing.
Don't know what else I can do.
CB

[Nacho-RT74]

to me... condenser/points damaged or out of adjustemt

[CB]

to me... condenser/points damaged or out of adjustemt

does this cause no spark at the coil wire?
I checked the points and they seem te be fine. I even get spark at the coil wire whit the distributor cap off and open/close the points.
CB

[Nacho-RT74]

maybe condenser is gone, out of range, not storaging the power to get the enough spark ?

[CB]

so, I removed the engine harness to go through it. I found 4 small blemishes on 2 wires: one that runs to coil (blue) and one that runs to temp gauge send unit. both were allready taped of.
Also the IGN side of the alternator regulator was badly corroded.

Everything else seems fine.
Thanks
CB

to coil:


temp gauge sending unit


alternator regulator:


engine harness now:

[CB]

with the harness out, should I test it and what to look for?
Thanks
CB

[tan top]

  still should fire even with those burned wires  hmmmm .... you say the firing order is correct ...what did the plugs look like ?    

[CB]

but still, shouldn't I get a good blue spark at the coil wire?

[tan top]

but still, shouldn't I get a good blue spark at the coil wire?

should do ..but  its not like a bright white/ blue spark like modern ignition setup ......

[chgr500]

Just a thought...if you have a radio noise suppressor on the coil they can go short to ground and allow some current to still flow to the points...it will appear as a weak spark at the points and WILL NOT START...my car had the same symptons you first described...cost me a tow home to find out

[Nacho-RT74]

Honestly since you already removed the harness, IMHO go for the ECU upgrade once

aaand chrgr500 got a point too

did you try hot wiring the coil ?

[CB]

guys she is running again!!!!
Reinstalled the engine harness, double checked on the right connections and voila, she runs!!!

I am proud of myself finding/resolving this problem 

(huh, I don't know what went wrong but hell, she runs again.)

Thanks for your support , appreciate it!!
CB

[tan top]

guys she is running again!!!!
Reinstalled the engine harness, double checked on the right connections and voila, she runs!!!

I am proud of myself finding/resolving this problem 

(huh, I don't know what went wrong but hell, she runs again.)

Thanks for your support , appreciate it!!
CB

  awesome stuff     time to crank the charger up & cruze

[CB]

yes sir!! I am off to collect the custom papers and getting it licenced and stuff. We got a hugh meeting coming up this weekend in my city +2500 US cars and bikes. I must attend to that show
Thanks for your support!
CB

[Nacho-RT74]

ok... if we were HOT WIRING the coil first, probably we would find earlier the fail was some lack of power somewhere for some reason, like rust or dust...

GREAT WAS SO SIMPLY!!!!

If you want to know what are the main wires on ignition system, they are the blue wire and the brown wire. as far you keep them in perfect condition, you'll get fire on engine

and for charging system, same blue wire, then green wire from regulator and the black wire output from alt sutd