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Converting Chargers to Different years?

Started by WingCharger, August 15, 2008, 04:22:14 PM

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WingCharger

Lets say I found a 1968 Charger, but I want a 1969. what would it take to change the years over. I know big stuff like grille, sidemarkers, dash, and tail-light panel, but what else would it take?

Converting a 1970 to 1969 wouldnt be as straight forward though... :scratchchin:

moparstuart

 leave it a 68 they are the best year anyway ,  then just buy a 69
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

hotrod98

Here's the easiest way. Buy a 69 Charger and take all of the 69 stuff off and put it on the 68 and then take all of the 68 stuff and put it on the 69.
There you go ...two totally screwed up cars.
Now wasn't that easy? :icon_smile_big:


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

PocketThunder

Has Wingo replaced Cody yet?  What do you think Krylon, anyone?
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

moparstuart

Quote from: PocketThunder on August 15, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
Has Wingo replaced Cody yet?  What do you think Krylon, anyone?
robot ?               
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

skip68

I wonder if Wingo calls Cody "Sir" ?   :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :icon_smile_big:  I'm only kidding guy's.
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


Joshua

Quote from: WingCharger on August 15, 2008, 04:22:14 PM
Lets say I found a 1968 Charger, but I want a 1969. what would it take to change the years over. I know big stuff like grille, sidemarkers, dash, and tail-light panel, but what else would it take?

Converting a 1970 to 1969 wouldnt be as straight forward though... :scratchchin:

Don't forget the door locks..... :icon_smile_tongue:

BB1

Ahh he's just a kid.  :hah: Don't worry Cody your still the man.  :lol:
Delete my profile

tan top

if it were me  .... just go out & get the year you want  :yesnod: .... 
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WingCharger

Quote from: tan top on August 15, 2008, 05:49:00 PM
if it were me  .... just go out & get the year you want  :yesnod: .... 
68 sell for cheaper, and I dont got a lot of money.

WingCharger

Quote from: PocketThunder on August 15, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
Has Wingo replaced Cody yet?  What do you think Krylon, anyone?
Friend of ours painted the hood on a truck with black Krylon once! :smilielol:

squeakfinder

IMO It's not worth it. You'll spend well over the difference in price between the two cars. Upholstery pattern, door lock position, the dash pad. I wanted a 69 to begin with also, but after owning two 68's they really have groan on me.

You might look up favorite year Charger poll on this site....
Still looking for 15x7 Appliance slotted mags.....

Chris G.

Quote from: PocketThunder on August 15, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
Has Wingo replaced Cody yet?  What do you think Krylon, anyone?

Not even close...yet.

Cody 10.00 posts per day, while the rookie is only at 5.5 a day. Hard to believe Cody is still that high considering he's been a ghost around here lately.

ps- Converting Chargers is whack yo. :coolgleamA: Just because you save buying a different year, doesn't mean you'll save when trying to get all the parts from another year.

Dodge Don

If you can't afford the car itself you sure as heck won't be able to afford the parts. I'd save my money, get a good education, work hard and when you are in a financial position to take care of you and your family then you can indulge yourself with with one fine Charger.

tan top

Quote from: WingCharger on August 15, 2008, 06:07:34 PM
Quote from: tan top on August 15, 2008, 05:49:00 PM
if it were me  .... just go out & get the year you want  :yesnod: .... 
68 sell for cheaper, and I dont got a lot of money.
   

yeah i can see what your saying  Winger ....  but you have to figure the cost of 69 parts to convert your 68  or 70 ... plus  any restoration  / how big a restoration  the charger needs ,  & then once you have finished said charger ..as awesome as it might look .. would you be able to  sell it easy for a fair price ... if you needed too .
  but if thats what you want to do dude ....  not sure how old you are ..but  figure in getting a job / collage .... in the paint & body / mechanical ...... learn a trade  , earn money ..plus you will know how to repair & restore your charger ... thats what i done :yesnod: 

oh that green one on ebay that one of the other guys posted for you ..would be ideal ... to start with  i think  :scratchchin:
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Blown70


Quote
   

yeah i can see what your saying  Winger ....  but you have to figure the cost of 69 parts to convert your 68  or 70 ... plus  any restoration  / how big a restoration  the charger needs ,  & then once you have finished said charger ..as awesome as it might look .. would you be able to  sell it easy for a fair price ... if you needed too .
  but if thats what you want to do dude ....  not sure how old you are ..but  figure in getting a job / collage .... in the paint & body / mechanical ...... learn a trade  , earn money ..plus you will know how to repair & restore your charger ... thats what i done :yesnod: 

oh that green one on ebay that one of the other guys posted for you ..would be ideal ... to start with  i think  :scratchchin:
Quote

I posted that car for this reason.  AMD makes fender for it which he could buy later.  Doors could be bought later too, I see them often for $100 to $150.  Does the car need work sure, but guess what a lot can be done with some sheet metal and a welder over a weekend when you want to. 

I agree learn a trade and or college and then toy with this thing on a weekend.

Personally I would not go about changing years.  If you must find the best deal on the year you want and buy that.

Tom

tan top

Quote from: Blown70 on August 15, 2008, 06:45:22 PM

Quote
   

yeah i can see what your saying  Winger ....  but you have to figure the cost of 69 parts to convert your 68  or 70 ... plus  any restoration  / how big a restoration  the charger needs ,  & then once you have finished said charger ..as awesome as it might look .. would you be able to  sell it easy for a fair price ... if you needed too .
  but if thats what you want to do dude ....  not sure how old you are ..but  figure in getting a job / collage .... in the paint & body / mechanical ...... learn a trade  , earn money ..plus you will know how to repair & restore your charger ... thats what i done :yesnod: 

oh that green one on ebay that one of the other guys posted for you ..would be ideal ... to start with  i think  :scratchchin:
Quote

I posted that car for this reason.  AMD makes fender for it which he could buy later.  Doors could be bought later too, I see them often for $100 to $150.  Does the car need work sure, but guess what a lot can be done with some sheet metal and a welder over a weekend when you want to. 

I agree learn a trade and or college and then toy with this thing on a weekend.

Personally I would not go about changing years.  If you must find the best deal on the year you want and buy that.

Tom


no neither would i change the years Tom ...  exactly my thoughts  on that 68 you posted ..work on it as & when .. & with all the new re-pop sheet metal  out & coming out .... would be a easy repair , just time consuming  , once you figure out how to weld & clean up  :yesnod:
  winger would prolly forget all a bout changing  grills & lights etc ...once he gets stuck in to a rebuild like that  :scratchchin:
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WingCharger

Quote from: Chris G. on August 15, 2008, 06:28:16 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on August 15, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
Has Wingo replaced Cody yet?  What do you think Krylon, anyone?

Not even close...yet.

Cody 10.00 posts per day, while the rookie is only at 5.5 a day. Hard to believe Cody is still that high considering he's been a ghost around here lately.

ps- Converting Chargers is whack yo. :coolgleamA: Just because you save buying a different year, doesn't mean you'll save when trying to get all the parts from another year.

never thought of it that way? :scratchchin: 68 Parts are more expensive, and you couldnt get a luggage rack, which for some reason I really want. :shruggy:

WingCharger

Quote from: tan top on August 15, 2008, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: Blown70 on August 15, 2008, 06:45:22 PM

Quote
   

yeah i can see what your saying  Winger ....  but you have to figure the cost of 69 parts to convert your 68  or 70 ... plus  any restoration  / how big a restoration  the charger needs ,  & then once you have finished said charger ..as awesome as it might look .. would you be able to  sell it easy for a fair price ... if you needed too .
  but if thats what you want to do dude ....  not sure how old you are ..but  figure in getting a job / collage .... in the paint & body / mechanical ...... learn a trade  , earn money ..plus you will know how to repair & restore your charger ... thats what i done :yesnod: 

oh that green one on ebay that one of the other guys posted for you ..would be ideal ... to start with  i think  :scratchchin:
Quote

I posted that car for this reason.  AMD makes fender for it which he could buy later.  Doors could be bought later too, I see them often for $100 to $150.  Does the car need work sure, but guess what a lot can be done with some sheet metal and a welder over a weekend when you want to. 

I agree learn a trade and or college and then toy with this thing on a weekend.

Personally I would not go about changing years.  If you must find the best deal on the year you want and buy that.

Tom
 


no neither would i change the years Tom ...  exactly my thoughts  on that 68 you posted ..work on it as & when .. & with all the new re-pop sheet metal  out & coming out .... would be a easy repair , just time consuming  , once you figure out how to weld & clean up  :yesnod:
  winger would prolly forget all a bout changing  grills & lights etc ...once he gets stuck in to a rebuild like that  :scratchchin:

Ive welded a little in the past, mainly farm equipment, and fixing the hood on my soon-to-be racing mower (Or pulling mower, havent decided) Its pretty quick, reversed the pulleys, turned up the carburetor, etc.

WingCharger

Quote from: tan top on August 15, 2008, 06:52:07 PM
Quote from: Blown70 on August 15, 2008, 06:45:22 PM

Quote
   

yeah i can see what your saying  Winger ....  but you have to figure the cost of 69 parts to convert your 68  or 70 ... plus  any restoration  / how big a restoration  the charger needs ,  & then once you have finished said charger ..as awesome as it might look .. would you be able to  sell it easy for a fair price ... if you needed too .
  but if thats what you want to do dude ....  not sure how old you are ..but  figure in getting a job / collage .... in the paint & body / mechanical ...... learn a trade  , earn money ..plus you will know how to repair & restore your charger ... thats what i done :yesnod: 

oh that green one on ebay that one of the other guys posted for you ..would be ideal ... to start with  i think  :scratchchin:
Quote

I posted that car for this reason.  AMD makes fender for it which he could buy later.  Doors could be bought later too, I see them often for $100 to $150.  Does the car need work sure, but guess what a lot can be done with some sheet metal and a welder over a weekend when you want to. 

I agree learn a trade and or college and then toy with this thing on a weekend.

Personally I would not go about changing years.  If you must find the best deal on the year you want and buy that.

Tom
 


no neither would i change the years Tom ...  exactly my thoughts  on that 68 you posted ..work on it as & when .. & with all the new re-pop sheet metal  out & coming out .... would be a easy repair , just time consuming  , once you figure out how to weld & clean up  :yesnod:
  winger would prolly forget all a bout changing  grills & lights etc ...once he gets stuck in to a rebuild like that  :scratchchin:

Bad thing about the green 68 is that after I added all the prices thogether for rpro sheet metal, it came out to well over $10,000. I would never have that kind of money.

Back N Black

Quote from: PocketThunder on August 15, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
Has Wingo replaced Cody yet?  What do you think Krylon, anyone?


He is just like Cody, only 1/8 his size. We call him Cody's mini me. Cody that makes you Dr.Evil.  :icon_smile_big:

rav440

Quote from: hotrod98 on August 15, 2008, 04:38:56 PM
Here's the easiest way. Buy a 69 Charger and take all of the 69 stuff off and put it on the 68 and then take all of the 68 stuff and put it on the 69.
There you go ...two totally screwed up cars.
Now wasn't that easy? :icon_smile_big:

:smilielol: LMAO :smilielol: :icon_smile_big: :smilielol: ;D :smilielol:

:cheers:
1973 PLYMOUTH road runner GTX



skip68

I agree with Blown70,  Get as complete of a car that you can and don't worry about sheet metal.  Good deals are popping up lately do to the bad economy and just keep looking for the project car you want.  Try to get one now while you are young.  Just think how hard or how much it will be to get one in 8 to 10 years from now... :brickwall:    :Twocents:  As far as the $10k, you do it over time.  :slap:  You pick up a deal on a part here and there as you go. :yesnod:
skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


chargerman68

1968 CHARGER R/T CLONELOOKING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT 69-70 CHARGER SHELL

jaak

just to play devils advocate.... whats the difference in converting a 68 to a 69, and converting a regular charger into a daytona? same principle :icon_smile_big:

Have you ever notice when this topic comes up, its always converting a 68 or 70 into a 69? I actually had a 69 one time (eventually decided to part it out) That I had thoughts of converting to a 68, just because I had an extra body and already had a 69. Go figure. LOL

Jason

BrianShaughnessy

It's perfectly fine to convert a 68 into a General Lee stuntcar or jumpcar...   just be sure to smooth over those dopey sidemarkers and get the correct grill and tail panel  :icon_smile_big:   
Bonus points for a DMCL  :smilielol:
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

WingCharger

Quote from: Back N Black on August 15, 2008, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: PocketThunder on August 15, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
Has Wingo replaced Cody yet?  What do you think Krylon, anyone?


He is just like Cody, only 1/8 his size. We call him Cody's mini me. Cody that makes you Dr.Evil.  :icon_smile_big:

Shagadellic!

The thing with these cars is, my dad basically says if I can buy something or not. Period. He doesnt know about all the repro parts (Hes a chebby Camaro man :eek2:), and at the slightest hint of rust, he says no. Just the rust, not what the car is underneath! It really burns me up.
Saw this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Dodge-Charger-RT-Body-XS29L-Clean-Title-Project_W0QQitemZ230281734531QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6199QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

He says it has a original 440 with it, but the XS29L says it had a 383 2 barrel on it. It also has no fender tag or build sheet, and he didnt post the full Vin.

Mike DC

   

Look, the short answer on the whole subject of year-swapping . . . it all generally boils down to this:


It's worth doing if you just want to change all the exterior body differences, and you intend to just change the seats/door panels on the interior.


But if you want literally EVERYTHING changed, then forget about it. 

There are literally hundreds of annoying tiny little changes between the years.  Stuff that will drive you insane.  Like the grain patterns on the vinyl, the type of brackets & fasteners on certain body parts, electrical components, etc.  There is NO SENSE in trying to change all this stuff.  The stuff is functionally hardly and different from one year to the other, but you'll end up having to re-purchase almost the whole damn car if you insist on getting it all. 


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1968-69 swap:

--  The taillight panel (and of course the whole taillight assemblies) are different from '68 and '69/70. 

--  The grille plastic (but not the metal framework) is different.

--  The seatcovers look different but the foam & frames are the same.

--  The rear valance got lights for 69/70.

--  of course the signals on the corners.


      ---------------------------------------


The '68/69 cars are much closer to each other than the 1970s. 


      ---------------------------------------



1970-to-69:

--  The ENTIRE front clip is visibly different from '68/69 and 1970.  The whole outer skin of the car ahead of the doors. 
(This swap was traditionally not cost-effective at all, although it may get better because more of the '68/69 stuff is being repro'd lately.)

--  the 1970 front bucket seats were 100% different from 68/69.  Even the metal frames inside.

--  The ignition key moved from the dashboard to the column in 1970.  It doesn't look like much, but you'll swap the ENTIRE dashboard and steering column to make everything match.

--  of course the signals at all four corners. 


Todd Wilson

Quote from: WingCharger on August 15, 2008, 04:22:14 PM
Lets say I found a 1968 Charger, but I want a 1969. what would it take to change the years over. I know big stuff like grille, sidemarkers, dash, and tail-light panel, but what else would it take?



A Dana 60



Todd

bull

For the life of me I can't understand why people feel the need to do this. It's about as intelligent as buying a ranch-style house for $2,000 less than a two-story and then spending $20,000 to add a second floor because you prefer two-story houses.

Regardless of what any expert says, I seriously doubt the '68s are that much cheaper than the '69s, at least not enough to make it cost-effective to convert one. And it's not like you'd be adding value to a '68 by making it look like a '69.

There are enough 2nd generation Chargers out there that you don't have to convert them, and yet there are not enough of them out there that you should. IMO it's unnecessary and unethical. How about we put the cutting/welding tools down and try converting double-digit IQ scores to triple-digit scores. :2thumbs:

G-man

If you like the 68 but like the tail panel of the 69, buy a 68 and change the tail panel. Im putting a 70 tail panel on my 68, that way i got the bad ass front and rear and the nice circle marker lights and the 1st year of the 2nd gens.

Thats how I swing and im driving the car not the ppl that complain. SO.... do what u need  :cheers:

KMPX2

Likeit was stated in the long run it will be cheaper to save up and buy what you want

terrible one


Get a job while you're young and still living with your parents and don't have other things to pay on. Save it ALL up for a year, then buy a driver Charger that isn't perfect that you can work on. There's really no other way when you're young, in my opinion. Don't waste your time with rotten shells.

Harlow

Quote from: terrible one on August 16, 2008, 12:00:14 PM

Get a job while you're young and still living with your parents and don't have other things to pay on. Save it ALL up for a year, then buy a driver Charger that isn't perfect that you can work on. There's really no other way when you're young, in my opinion. Don't waste your time with rotten shells.

:2thumbs: Thats what I would advise as well.

dpm68

Quoteleave it a 68 they are the best year anyway ,  then just buy a 69
What he said.

hotrod98

I advise all of my customers to buy complete cars. If I started with a shell and built a complete car, I would have 4 or 5 times more money in the car than what the car could have been  bought for complete.

Here's the plan for buying a musclecar.
Save up for the car.
Look for a car.
Buy a car.
Never sell the car.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

tan top

Quote from: hotrod98 on August 16, 2008, 12:17:46 PM
I advise all of my customers to buy complete cars. If I started with a shell and built a complete car, I would have 4 or 5 times more money in the car than what the car could have been  bought for complete.

Here's the plan for buying a musclecar.
Save up for the car.
Look for a car.
Buy a car.
Never sell the car.

good plan :yesnod: 
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suntech

QuoteBad thing about the green 68 is that after I added all the prices thogether for rpro sheet metal, it came out to well over $10,000. I would never have that kind of money

If 10 K is something you will never have, to spend on a car you don´t really need, i would say that the smartest thing would be NOT to buy a Charger, and avoid getting sucked in to something that you wount be able to finish. :Twocents:
Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

Ghoste

Focus your search on the year you and stick to it.  There are still plenty of them left and deals too.  Be patient, hell you don't even drive yet do you?  In any case you have LOTS of years to get this project right.

WingCharger

Quote from: suntech on August 16, 2008, 12:59:07 PM
QuoteBad thing about the green 68 is that after I added all the prices thogether for rpro sheet metal, it came out to well over $10,000. I would never have that kind of money

If 10 K is something you will never have, to spend on a car you don´t really need, i would say that the smartest thing would be NOT to buy a Charger, and avoid getting sucked in to something that you wount be able to finish. :Twocents:

What I meant was I am not going to have 10k as a kid anytime soon, unless I get a really good job, which I am looking for. :brickwall:

suntech

Then it is different :yesnod:

Then Ghoste had a good plan for you.
But...........remember that this hobby is a money pit, and restorations / buildups are ALWAYS ending up costing more than you expect!!! The upside is that in the end, you will have a car you can be proud of, and enjoy.   :2thumbs:
Another upside is that you can spend your money on something "wise" instead of going to town and blow them "out the window"!!!
Since we only live once, and all this is not just a dressed rehearsal, but the real thing............ Well, enjoy it!!!!

WingCharger

Quote from: suntech on August 16, 2008, 04:23:54 PM
Then it is different :yesnod:

Then Ghoste had a good plan for you.
But...........remember that this hobby is a money pit, and restorations / buildups are ALWAYS ending up costing more than you expect!!! The upside is that in the end, you will have a car you can be proud of, and enjoy.   :2thumbs:
Another upside is that you can spend your money on something "wise" instead of going to town and blow them "out the window"!!!

And something that can shut those ricers up. Kids in my computer class look over my shoulder and ask "what you lookin at?" and I say "A car to blow your mitshubishi away"  and its a Daytona or Javelin.
Then they yell from their computer "this would kill that car" and its a freakin mitsubishi. :RantExplode:

Troy

Quote from: WingCharger on August 16, 2008, 05:09:28 PM
Quote from: suntech on August 16, 2008, 04:23:54 PM
Then it is different :yesnod:

Then Ghoste had a good plan for you.
But...........remember that this hobby is a money pit, and restorations / buildups are ALWAYS ending up costing more than you expect!!! The upside is that in the end, you will have a car you can be proud of, and enjoy.   :2thumbs:
Another upside is that you can spend your money on something "wise" instead of going to town and blow them "out the window"!!!

And something that can shut those ricers up. Kids in my computer class look over my shoulder and ask "what you lookin at?" and I say "A car to blow your mitshubishi away"  and its a Daytona or Javelin.
Then they yell from their computer "this would kill that car" and its a freakin mitsubishi. :RantExplode:
Who cares which is faster? None of you (kids in your class) are old enough to drive so your just "bench racing" any way. Other than it being a stupid idea to street race, in the real world, you'd all get pummeled in a race by someone slightly older with more money and experience. There are fast ricers out there as well as slow muscle cars - some people know how to build them and some don't. No matter what, someone will always be faster - unless you have unlimited funds and know some mighty talented people.

The Charger is going to look better and be more unique no matter what.

As for converting a Charger, don't bother. I don't believe that 68s are noticeably cheaper than 69s and the amount of work involved to convert one would eat up any savings gained by buying the wrong car. Keep looking, I found a 69 383 Charger within probably 20 minutes of where you live and the price was very reasonable. It lasted about 4 hours though so you better have cash in hand when you find one.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Finn

I agree on the save and buy deal. Though it took me about 2 years of saving which meant two years of working two jobs while going to school...it was worth it though even when I got to drive it in it's pos beater condition.
Plus it gives you time to shop and research.
Also, to be fair, not all "rice" is slow junk. Ive driven a Mitsubishi Evolution and seen them perform. Those suckers are very hard to beat bang for buck wise.
1968 Dodge Charger 440, EFI, AirRide suspension
1970 Dodge Challenger RT/SE 383 magnum
1963 Plymouth Savoy 225 with a 3 on the tree.
2002 Dodge Ram 5.9L 360
2014 Dodge Dart 2.4L

WingCharger

Quote from: Finn on August 16, 2008, 05:34:21 PM
I agree on the save and buy deal. Though it took me about 2 years of saving which meant two years of working two jobs while going to school...it was worth it though even when I got to drive it in it's pos beater condition.
Plus it gives you time to shop and research.
Also, to be fair, not all "rice" is slow junk. Ive driven a Mitsubishi Evolution and seen them perform. Those suckers are very hard to beat bang for buck wise.

Yeah, but one fender bender and that fiberglass and super thin sheet-metal on is like paper. (Not all are like that) Ever seen a muscle car on Ricer crash? One is still there, one not.

skip68

skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


squeakfinder


Sigh....

Troy, you might be wasting your time. My sons is 19. He's now,maybee,sort of getting out of this 14 year old stage.


Listen to Troy,




young,dumb,fullacum.
Still looking for 15x7 Appliance slotted mags.....

Brock Samson

 (must stop viewing t his thread,.. must stop... oh but it's like'a train wreck though... must stop...  :no:  )



WingCharger

Quote from: Brock Samson on August 16, 2008, 07:31:16 PM
(must stop viewing t his thread,.. must stop... oh but it's like'a train wreck though... must stop...  :no:  )




Even i'll admit the thread is a train wreck. My Fault... :brickwall:

Brock Samson

 :scratchchin:  Wing - you could save yourself and us a lot of trouble by researching these questions yourself...
there have been many threads on this topic over the past few years, generally, it's not a wise idea for all the reasons above, (besides which the dash pads are different, the '68s is peaked in the center with a slight point and the '60/70 is flat.)

listen to troy, he's our leader for a good reason.  :yesnod:

TheGhost

What the hell is this mess?


If you listen to anyone's advice here, listen to mine.  I bought my Barracuda 3 years ago.  Now I'm forced to sell it, because I can't afford to keep it.  The reason I can't afford to keep it is because I dropped out of college.  Now I'm going back to college, and once I get a degree and a career, I'll be able to afford another Mopar.

Forget about finding a 69 Charger for now, and concentrate on school.  Get yourself into a good college, get a career that makes you lots of money (something you'll need for a 69 Charger), and then start looking again.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  Especially if they have access to the internet.

Back N Black

Quote from: TheGhost on August 16, 2008, 09:57:07 PM
What the hell is this mess?


If you listen to anyone's advice here, listen to mine.  I bought my Barracuda 3 years ago.  Now I'm forced to sell it, because I can't afford to keep it.  The reason I can't afford to keep it is because I dropped out of college.  Now I'm going back to college, and once I get a degree and a career, I'll be able to afford another Mopar.

Forget about finding a 69 Charger for now, and concentrate on school.  Get yourself into a good college, get a career that makes you lots of money (something you'll need for a 69 Charger), and then start looking again.



:iagree:

Mike DC

I agree about the money.


Remember the 2005 Dukes of Hazzard flick?

Well, these days, $5-10K usually isn't even enough to get you the GL as it looked at the beginning  of the movie. 


nakita7

Most of the opinions here are right...don't waste your time and money right now, save up and buy whet you want. As most of us older guys will tell you, we were young and stupid once (I know, it's hard to believe) and we never realized how much these 'part here, part there' restorations actually cost in the end. I know it seems cheaper to you right now, but trust me, it's not. To you, you look at a $30,000 Charger and think you'll never get one. Truth is, the owner, if he bought it in the last 10 years, or so, probably has more than that into it. It's exactly the same as getting something on sale at the store. You feel good right? Save as much as you can and buy a done, or close to done car. Let someone else lose the money and the time spent on 'restoring' their car. You'll see as you get older, life is short. Concentrate on more important things. 

Remember, in life you can gain back money lost...you can never gain back time.

Bobs69

I only breezed thru this thread quick but.............you could always buy the 68 and let it sit if you have the place, and or your old man doesn't care.  Should keep you mind out of the gutter and stick with school.  But just in case you have the car sitting and waiting.

I own a 69, and 68's are awesome too.

Joshua

Quote from: TheGhost on August 16, 2008, 09:57:07 PM

Forget about finding a 69 Charger for now, and concentrate on school.  Get yourself into a good college, get a career that makes you lots of money (something you'll need for a 69 Charger), and then start looking again.

School can be good......but school isn't a guarantee to a good income later in life.....
I know guys who never went to college and they are LOADED.....it takes smarts, dedication and risk.....even when yer broke, there are ways to make smart investments, that make money for you.... :icon_smile_big:
But yeah, it doesn't sound like you're in a position to be worrying about getting a project Charger at this time anyway....

Joshua

Quote from: Joshua on August 20, 2008, 01:09:14 PM
Quote from: TheGhost on August 16, 2008, 09:57:07 PM

Forget about finding a 69 Charger for now, and concentrate on school.  Get yourself into a good college, get a career that makes you lots of money (something you'll need for a 69 Charger), and then start looking again.

School can be good......but school isn't a guarantee to a good income later in life.....
College=loans=debts that go on for YEARS...
I know guys who never went to college and they are LOADED.....it takes smarts, dedication and risk.....even when yer broke, there are ways to make smart investments, that make money for you.... :icon_smile_big:
But yeah, it doesn't sound like you're in a position to be worrying about getting a project Charger at this time anyway....


WingCharger

Quote from: Joshua on August 20, 2008, 01:12:46 PM
Quote from: Joshua on August 20, 2008, 01:09:14 PM
Quote from: TheGhost on August 16, 2008, 09:57:07 PM

Forget about finding a 69 Charger for now, and concentrate on school.  Get yourself into a good college, get a career that makes you lots of money (something you'll need for a 69 Charger), and then start looking again.

School can be good......but school isn't a guarantee to a good income later in life.....
College=loans=debts that go on for YEARS...
I know guys who never went to college and they are LOADED.....it takes smarts, dedication and risk.....even when yer broke, there are ways to make smart investments, that make money for you.... :icon_smile_big:
But yeah, it doesn't sound like you're in a position to be worrying about getting a project Charger at this time anyway....


Right now i want to either be an engineer, electrical contractor, or diesel and agricultural mechanic.
My dad works at a power plant, and so does my brother, and I have always liked working around electricity. If I became a engineer, electrical or mechanical, I could work at the same power plant, which I have always liked to be around. Engineer would also be enough to afford a Charger, sometime in the future. :icon_smile_big:

kikgas01

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on August 15, 2008, 08:43:22 PM


Look, the short answer on the whole subject of year-swapping . . . it all generally boils down to this:


It's worth doing if you just want to change all the exterior body differences, and you intend to just change the seats/door panels on the interior.


But if you want literally EVERYTHING changed, then forget about it.

There are literally hundreds of annoying tiny little changes between the years. Stuff that will drive you insane. Like the grain patterns on the vinyl, the type of brackets & fasteners on certain body parts, electrical components, etc. There is NO SENSE in trying to change all this stuff. The stuff is functionally hardly and different from one year to the other, but you'll end up having to re-purchase almost the whole damn car if you insist on getting it all.


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1968-69 swap:

-- The taillight panel (and of course the whole taillight assemblies) are different from '68 and '69/70.

-- The grille plastic (but not the metal framework) is different.

-- The seatcovers look different but the foam & frames are the same.

-- The rear valance got lights for 69/70.

-- of course the signals on the corners.


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The '68/69 cars are much closer to each other than the 1970s.


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1970-to-69:

-- The ENTIRE front clip is visibly different from '68/69 and 1970. The whole outer skin of the car ahead of the doors.
(This swap was traditionally not cost-effective at all, although it may get better because more of the '68/69 stuff is being repro'd lately.)

-- the 1970 front bucket seats were 100% different from 68/69. Even the metal frames inside.

-- The ignition key moved from the dashboard to the column in 1970. It doesn't look like much, but you'll swap the ENTIRE dashboard and steering column to make everything match.

-- of course the signals at all four corners.


even the rear wiring harness is different. 68 has 4 lights(2 on each side) 69 has 3 lights per side.