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Started by 66monaco, August 15, 2008, 10:04:55 AM

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66monaco

new 750 proform mech ordered! should arrive next week! I think I'll past on the cam chainge for this winter, theres so much other things to do for it...I'll test how it run and work on new carb and those 3.55 rings....and I'll try to find here a good dyno, where to tune it and get the facts! :D I can change the cam, any time in the summer ,at my work or my garage. :) And I'm gonna buy somekinda vacuum reservoir for the lamps ja power brakes :)
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firefighter3931

The PF 750 is a very good choice.  :2thumbs: It will be much easier to tune and make consistent power throughout the RPM range. You might have to install a lower rated power valve to clean up the idle....but you won't know that until you install it and start tuning.  :icon_smile_big:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

66monaco

cool! yep, there's gonna be some tuning to do, in the spring :D I allready have air/fuel ratio ja vacuum meters installed in the dash, so it should be easy  :icon_smile_big:
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66monaco

new proform, valvecovers and msd 6al installed!  :coolgleamA:

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kamkuda

Purdy,  How does she run now?

66monaco

haven't tryed yet, there still lots of things to do, electric fuel pump, trunk painting, hifi installions etc little stuff ;)  :) and it's winter now, we'll see in the spring ;) I'll try to get it to the dyno...so then we get the facts! :D
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66monaco

previous owner drove that 13.2 / 1/4m. with slicks....hopefully I'll do atleast the same with 275/60r15 street tyres...now  :lol: :coolgleamA:
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66monaco

I got a time for a dyno! May 11th we get facts! :yesnod:  and car is almost ready! just "wax on, wax off" !! :D 
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skip68

skip68, A.K.A. Chuck \ 68 Charger 440 auto\ 67 Camaro RS (no 440)       FRANKS & BEANS !!!


73 charger

i have the 750 edelbroch....had to change fuel line from 5/16 to 3/8.  car bogging on track 80-90mph.   much better now.   60 foot times less than 2sec. 
1973 Dodge Charger, "Big Blue", Petty Blue (TB3), 408 Stroker, 460 TQ, RPM Air Gap Dual Plane Intake #7577, Edelbrock 750 cfm Performer Carb #1411, Holley Fuel pump (110 gph), Edelbrock #8877 water pump, MSD #8388 pro-billet RTR distrib, Comp Cam 233I/240E, lobe sep 110 deg, Hayes Heavy-Duty Flexplate, TCI Breakaway Torque Converter-stall 2200-2400, TCI 727-Street Fighter, DTS Stainless Steel balanced drive shaft tube with 7290 u-joint/yoke, DTS 3:54 Dana 60, Trak-Lok posi-unit, MT Drag Radials

Beer

Quote from: 73 charger on May 05, 2009, 09:01:18 AM
i have the 750 edelbroch....had to change fuel line from 5/16 to 3/8.  car bogging on track 80-90mph.   much better now.   60 foot times less than 2sec. 

What are you running in 1/4?  We have comparible setups.

Jim
1973 Dodge Charger 402 Stroker Smallblock 414 HP/ 466 ft/lbs torque,  8 3/4" 3.91 Suregrip rear w/ DR. Diff disk brake conversion, CalTracs single leaf and Rear Suspension, VFN Bulge Hood, Running, needs interior completed, Had to give to Ex-Wife in divorce 2017...

73 charger

My 73 with 3/4 fuel and me in it weighs 4140lbs.   So far best 1/4, 5 Apr 09 @2:23 pm, Budds Creek, MD.  13.805 at 100.91 mph.  Since then upgraded fuel system...waiting for weather to improve to get back to the track!  My 408 dyno results with TQ 459.85lbft @3900, Cpower 386.13 C_HP @5200.

Mike
1973 Dodge Charger, "Big Blue", Petty Blue (TB3), 408 Stroker, 460 TQ, RPM Air Gap Dual Plane Intake #7577, Edelbrock 750 cfm Performer Carb #1411, Holley Fuel pump (110 gph), Edelbrock #8877 water pump, MSD #8388 pro-billet RTR distrib, Comp Cam 233I/240E, lobe sep 110 deg, Hayes Heavy-Duty Flexplate, TCI Breakaway Torque Converter-stall 2200-2400, TCI 727-Street Fighter, DTS Stainless Steel balanced drive shaft tube with 7290 u-joint/yoke, DTS 3:54 Dana 60, Trak-Lok posi-unit, MT Drag Radials

66monaco

well today I was at dyno... 374 rwhp... didn't get torque 'cause there was just kW gauge, and he didn't get right rpm's :( but I'm glad, I expected around 350... so it's good! and did a little highway testing too... 139mph and shift light went on (set to 6000)..and it would of liked to go more...still I have to work on distributor, it gives too much advance, over 30 deg...man who dynod, said to limit total timing to around 36 and put basic way up to 20 deg...
heres few pics too, one from dyno place and one from those ram air system..
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Ghoste

Good work, it's always nice when you exceed your expectations.

66monaco

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73 charger

Can you post pictures of your intake collection?  I need to add a cold air intake my self!!   Where did you get the intake?  I was trying to decide connecting to the cowl vs under radiator support like you have!!   My 1/4 mile time improved to 13.783 fri eve!

Mike
1973 Dodge Charger, "Big Blue", Petty Blue (TB3), 408 Stroker, 460 TQ, RPM Air Gap Dual Plane Intake #7577, Edelbrock 750 cfm Performer Carb #1411, Holley Fuel pump (110 gph), Edelbrock #8877 water pump, MSD #8388 pro-billet RTR distrib, Comp Cam 233I/240E, lobe sep 110 deg, Hayes Heavy-Duty Flexplate, TCI Breakaway Torque Converter-stall 2200-2400, TCI 727-Street Fighter, DTS Stainless Steel balanced drive shaft tube with 7290 u-joint/yoke, DTS 3:54 Dana 60, Trak-Lok posi-unit, MT Drag Radials

66monaco

i try to take more pics from it, why I can. the air cleaner box is bought from spectre performance  http://www.spectreperformance.com/#CATALOG
and air tubes are just basic house ventilation tubes.. ;) and they go trough the inner fenders to front lower valance, which allready had couple of holes, just the right size, where to fit tubes. and i allso made little spoilers so it get air easily... heres couple pics where to tube comes from inner fender to valance.. and one pic from freshly painted trunk...  :cheers:
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firefighter3931

Quote from: 66monaco on May 11, 2009, 02:40:23 PM
well today I was at dyno... 374 rwhp... didn't get torque 'cause there was just kW gauge, and he didn't get right rpm's :( but I'm glad, I expected around 350... so it's good! and did a little highway testing too... 139mph and shift light went on (set to 6000)..and it would of liked to go more...still I have to work on distributor, it gives too much advance, over 30 deg...man who dynod, said to limit total timing to around 36 and put basic way up to 20 deg...
heres few pics too, one from dyno place and one from those ram air system..

Very Nice....excellent results for a 383 !  :2thumbs: So i guess it's safe to say you're happy with the new Proform carb ? You must have noticed a huge improvement in drivability and power  ;)

Your Dyno guy is correct....that 292 cam will want 20* at idle and 36-38* total....all in by 2500-2800 rpm. Too much total advance will reduce top end power.

Nice job on the fresh air intake system....that's worth some power.  :2thumbs:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

66monaco

Thanks Ron!  tomorrow I'll work on the distributor, hmm, should I limit mechanical advance on the "end" of it movement or in the beginning? And quess I should limit movement almost half? and should I use lighter springs? or should I just take the heavier spring off? So I'll get total timing in around that 2600-2800rpm? I use mopar dist.
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firefighter3931

Quote from: 66monaco on May 12, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
Thanks Ron!  tomorrow I'll work on the distributor, hmm, should I limit mechanical advance on the "end" of it movement or in the beginning? And quess I should limit movement almost half? and should I use lighter springs? or should I just take the heavier spring off? So I'll get total timing in around that 2600-2800rpm? I use mopar dist.

Limit the travel at the end....if you get the slots sized to .375inches that will be close enough. This should give you ~18* of mechanical advance. The newer MP distributors have torx button screws and adjustable stops to limit advance. The older distributors will require some welding and possibly some file work to dial in the slot size. If you have a MIG available....zap the end of the slot and file if need be.  ;)

For the springs....remove the heavy spring and replace with a light spring. This should dial in the curve where it needs to be.  :2thumbs:


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

66monaco

yes I have mig at work. I'll "tune"tomorrow :) thanks again Ron very much!
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73 charger

Thanks for posting pics!!! This gives me some ideas!   I am placing a Hurst Line Lock on the car this week for next track day!  Then I'll takle the cold air induction!!!  :D

Mike
1973 Dodge Charger, "Big Blue", Petty Blue (TB3), 408 Stroker, 460 TQ, RPM Air Gap Dual Plane Intake #7577, Edelbrock 750 cfm Performer Carb #1411, Holley Fuel pump (110 gph), Edelbrock #8877 water pump, MSD #8388 pro-billet RTR distrib, Comp Cam 233I/240E, lobe sep 110 deg, Hayes Heavy-Duty Flexplate, TCI Breakaway Torque Converter-stall 2200-2400, TCI 727-Street Fighter, DTS Stainless Steel balanced drive shaft tube with 7290 u-joint/yoke, DTS 3:54 Dana 60, Trak-Lok posi-unit, MT Drag Radials

66monaco

cool! I have line lock too..

now the slot are about .590" and basic advance is around 18 and it starts good, but total advance don't rise above 22.....quess i have to file little more :)  and i notised that there a big cap between p and D! idle is around 900 at P and now when I put first, engine allmost stops...

and damn, that highway speed test quess didn't do good, now theres a little clank at the right side of engine and it sounds like bearings...!! lets hope not! :brickwall:
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Quote from: 66monaco on May 13, 2009, 12:17:03 PM
cool! I have line lock too..

now the slot are about .590" and basic advance is around 18 and it starts good, but total advance don't rise above 22.....quess i have to file little more :)  and i notised that there a big cap between p and D! idle is around 900 at P and now when I put first, engine allmost stops...

and damn, that highway speed test quess didn't do good, now theres a little clank at the right side of engine and it sounds like bearings...!! lets hope not! :brickwall:

If the total advance isn't moving past 22* then your weights are sticking....you need to find out why.  :yesnod:

I like to ide them up at 850+ in gear....i don't worry about the idle speed in neutral. A cam that big in a 383 is going to have a pretty nasty idle anyway.  ;)

Hope the engine isn't hurt.  :icon_smile_blackeye:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs