had an elephant delivered to the house today

[chargerman68]

well today was a great day cause i got a whole new reason to wrench on the charger.......

being talked too by pete/gill that comlpleted 6.1 hemi swaps already i fell in love with it and found an engine on ebay for 1/4 on the price and he even delivered it to the house for free........


i will be starting this weekend on the project....will keep everyone informed....






this pig was heavy.....

[68chrgrwife]

I told him that he can sleep outside with it.  LOL  He LOVES that thing sooooooooooooo much, he barely has been inside since it got delivered.......

[1969chargerrtse]

That's to cool.  Awesome and enjoy.

[keepat]

Congrats! The new Hemi is an awesome motor! Change the thermostat to a 160, add a CAI, load-in a custom tune, and you'll see 500HP
Good luck! And have a great weekend!
Pat

[69*F5*SE]

Tame that beast. 

[twenty mike mike]

Ooohhhh, that's very cool.   

So, you're going to develop step by step instructions with hundreds of pics for all your board buddies?   

[skip68]

    YAH BABY   

[Big Lebowski]

  Sweet.

[1968Coronet500]

I'm happy for you!!!   I wanted to do the conversion to my Charger last spring on a trade deal and then the guy backed out...

Let me know how it works out!!

[chargerman68]

Ooohhhh, that's very cool.   

So, you're going to develop step by step instructions with hundreds of pics for all your board buddies?   

i got the idea from pete and gill from moparts

here is a detailed summary

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=3930520&an=0&page=1#Post3930520

[mikesbbody]

NICE!!! good luck, let us know how you go (pics of install) 

[dpm68]

That sure looks pretty.

[JPL]

Give it a hug from me!

[The70RT]

Cool. I bet it will be fun installing. I would hate to see if you got a real hemi 

[tan top]

 got a intresting project going on there dude ... keep us updated  with pictures  & info 

[WingCharger]

I always thought it would be cool to swap a 6.1 into a Charger. I could have HEMI badging, fuel efficiany of a new car (So it would be practical to daily-drive ), and A/C.

The only thing is that I want a four speed, and they dont make 4 speed tranys for the 6.1 do they?

Would I be able to find a junkyard 6.1 longblock? Or would I have to have a 5.7?

[Troy]

I always thought it would be cool to swap a 6.1 into a Charger. I could have HEMI badging, fuel efficiany of a new car (So it would be practical to daily-drive ), and A/C.

The only thing is that I want a four speed, and they dont make 4 speed tranys for the 6.1 do they?

Would I be able to find a junkyard 6.1 longblock? Or would I have to have a 5.7?

Read the link above.

Here's mine (a little dirty):


Troy

[Blown70]

I always thought it would be cool to swap a 6.1 into a Charger. I could have HEMI badging, fuel efficiany of a new car (So it would be practical to daily-drive ), and A/C.

The only thing is that I want a four speed, and they dont make 4 speed tranys for the 6.1 do they?

Would I be able to find a junkyard 6.1 longblock? Or would I have to have a 5.7?

Why would you not do a 6 spd?

[Mopar2Ya]

Nice. Now you need this. http://vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=146&cat_key=25
For more 6.1L info. http://www.srtconnection.com/forums/index.php

[ChargerSG]

Congrats  I have only tried a 5.7L swap(that i gave up on) hope you make it

[WingCharger]

I always thought it would be cool to swap a 6.1 into a Charger. I could have HEMI badging, fuel efficiany of a new car (So it would be practical to daily-drive ), and A/C.

The only thing is that I want a four speed, and they dont make 4 speed tranys for the 6.1 do they?

Would I be able to find a junkyard 6.1 longblock? Or would I have to have a 5.7?

Why would you not do a 6 spd?

I would. I would take any manual. Better gas mileage and more power. What not to love? BUT, where would I find one since they are just now putting them in Challengers?!?!? No new Challengers in any junkyards around me.

[chargerman68]

the 6.1 matches up with our old sb 727 so i dont know about an old 4 speed

contact gill on moparts  he is in the lead for these 6.1 swaps....

[Blown70]

I always thought it would be cool to swap a 6.1 into a Charger. I could have HEMI badging, fuel efficiany of a new car (So it would be practical to daily-drive ), and A/C.

The only thing is that I want a four speed, and they dont make 4 speed tranys for the 6.1 do they?

Would I be able to find a junkyard 6.1 longblock? Or would I have to have a 5.7?

Why would you not do a 6 spd?

I would. I would take any manual. Better gas mileage and more power. What not to love? BUT, where would I find one since they are just now putting them in Challengers?!?!? No new Challengers in any junkyards around me.

T56?  I believe will work.... just need the correct bellhousing.

[ChargerSG]

5.7 bolts right to SB 727 or SB 4speed but i dont think the 6.1 will....

[WingCharger]

5.7 bolts right to SB 727 or SB 4speed but i dont think the 6.1 will....

SWEET!! Anybody got a surplus 318 or 383 4 Speed?

Good chances I will end up using a junkyard 5.7

[ChargerSG]

You just have to machine the flexiplate some for clearance and bolt the SB 727 there, the wiring and computer(if using ascrap one) isent easy, But i f you can afford you can buy everything allready done(wireing, computer, fueltank, mounts and headers).

[WingCharger]

You just have to machine the flexiplate some for clearance and bolt the SB 727 there, the wiring and computer(if using ascrap one) isent easy, But i f you can afford you can buy everything allready done(wireing, computer, fueltank, mounts and headers).

Where from? I read in Mopar Action about XV's kit, does this include it all? I dont know anything abou programming.

BE SURE TO KEEP US COMPLETLY POSTED LIKE THE MOPARTS THREAD!!!!! This will help a lot of people if you do!

[twenty mike mike]

Ooohhhh, that's very cool.   

So, you're going to develop step by step instructions with hundreds of pics for all your board buddies?   

i got the idea from pete and gill from moparts

here is a detailed summary

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=3930520&an=0&page=1#Post3930520

Great! Thanks for posting that.

[hemi68charger]

Let the fun begin...........
 

[chargerman68]

yes any 5.7 or 6.1 bolts too a sb 727 sam pattern all you need is a flex plate adaptor from manicini or xv

wingcharger,

one if you use a wrecker 5.7 you can not use any of the wiring unless you can sell it off dont even take it...
two ifs its a wrecker motor make sure you grab the vin to disable the anti theft
three all you will need to convert is:

tti mounts 175
tti headers 800
flex plate-100
converting fuel system to efi-gas tank and a electric fuel pump 1000+
full wiring management system from street/performance 950

i know im forgetting something...


you can use your sb 727 linkage,driveshaft,and rearend(depending on gears)

oh yeah i have an 04 5.7 with auto trans with 50k on it full accessories,wiring,computers...everything
2000 shipped in the us only
rolling thunder is also do his in a roadrunner....

[WingCharger]

yes any 5.7 or 6.1 bolts too a sb 727 sam pattern all you need is a flex plate adaptor from manicini or xv

wingcharger,

one if you use a wrecker 5.7 you can not use any of the wiring unless you can sell it off dont even take it...
two ifs its a wrecker motor make sure you grab the vin to disable the anti theft
three all you will need to convert is:

tti mounts 175
tti headers 800
flex plate-100
converting fuel system to efi-gas tank and a electric fuel pump 1000+
full wiring management system from street/performance 950

i know im forgetting something...


you can use your sb 727 linkage,driveshaft,and rearend(depending on gears)

oh yeah i have an 04 5.7 with auto trans with 50k on it full accessories,wiring,computers...everything
2000 shipped in the us only
rolling thunder is also do his in a roadrunner....

Thanks!

Are you going to convert it to carburated, or leave it EFI? In Mopar Action they converted it to carbureted with a kit from XV motorsports. I cant decide between the two. I want performance to blow away the ricers, but want it to be reliable because chances are it could be a daily driver.

[suntech]

OK  it is a Hemi, but in my opinion the "elephant" is the old style Hemi

[chargerman68]

making it an efi setup

[WingCharger]

I read in the MoParts post on the guy using part of the original wiring harness. Would I have to?

Also, can you give me a link to the street/performance wiring harness?

[suntech]

Sounds like a nice setup for something to drive every day!! Auto or manual??

[chargerman68]

I read in the MoParts post on the guy using part of the original wiring harness. Would I have to?

Also, can you give me a link to the street/performance wiring harness?

http://www.hotwireauto.com/  its the one pete used

or http://www.hotrodlane.cc/  gill used them

Sounds like a nice setup for something to drive every day!! Auto or manual??

either a sb727 auto or a new auto out of a charger,magnum,300

[Nacho-RT74]

need a peanut for the elephant ?

[Rolling_Thunder]

im using a 6.1L with a TKO 5-speed...     I'll be working on this swap in the near future   

[Mopar2Ya]

Here is new stuff from Arrington for the modern HEMI.
http://www.arringtonengines.com/p-203-new-hemi-chipkillr.aspx

[451-74Charger]

I always thought it would be cool to swap a 6.1 into a Charger. I could have HEMI badging, fuel efficiany of a new car (So it would be practical to daily-drive ), and A/C.

The only thing is that I want a four speed, and they dont make 4 speed tranys for the 6.1 do they?

Would I be able to find a junkyard 6.1 longblock? Or would I have to have a 5.7?

Read the link above.

Here's mine (a little dirty):

Troy

Now I know you didnt get THAT from Besslers !!

[PocketThunder]

Here is new stuff from Arrington for the modern HEMI.
http://www.arringtonengines.com/p-203-new-hemi-chipkillr.aspx

SWEET!

[Leonidas Rex]

I just located a 6.1 for my 68 Charger RT. I am glad to find so many people doing this that I can ask questions. Good luck! I look forward to seeing pictures and reading about your project.

[Troy]

I always thought it would be cool to swap a 6.1 into a Charger. I could have HEMI badging, fuel efficiany of a new car (So it would be practical to daily-drive ), and A/C.

The only thing is that I want a four speed, and they dont make 4 speed tranys for the 6.1 do they?

Would I be able to find a junkyard 6.1 longblock? Or would I have to have a 5.7?

Read the link above.

Here's mine (a little dirty):

Troy

Now I know you didnt get THAT from Besslers !!

No, but it was in Kentucky. Good price too.

Troy

[autodynamics]

let me know if you guys need any help.....pete

[WingCharger]

let me know if you guys need any help.....pete

THAT IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chargerman68]

check your pm's 

[autodynamics]

http://www.modernmuscle.biz/hemistore.html

[NMike]

Here is new stuff from Arrington for the modern HEMI.
http://www.arringtonengines.com/p-203-new-hemi-chipkillr.aspx

$2000 for a distributor .

[Mopar2Ya]

Here is new stuff from Arrington for the modern HEMI.
http://www.arringtonengines.com/p-203-new-hemi-chipkillr.aspx

$2000 for a distributor .

Yeah, the modern HEMI stuff is ridiculous. How about this 90mm tb. http://www.arringtonengines.com/p-310-new-hemi-90mm-throttle-body.aspx

[dfsmopars]

Keep us posted. I am very interested in how it goes. Good luck and have fun!

[Rolling_Thunder]

Hey Pete I need help paying for it...                      I think I'm going to Go with Squire's wiring and 'puter - - -    I still need to buy a flywheel for this pig too....     UGH! 

[chargerman68]

will a stock 6.1 flywheel work

[Steve P.]

So if a SB 727 bolts up to a late hemi, will a late model overdrive bolt up to an LA motor?? Or are there issues with converter and F-plate?? Also what about the late tranny electronics? Problem or no?

[Troy]

So if a SB 727 bolts up to a late hemi, will a late model overdrive bolt up to an LA motor?? Or are there issues with converter and F-plate?? Also what about the late tranny electronics? Problem or no?

Which late model OD? The A518 came stock behind the 5.2 and 5.9 Magnum since the early 90s so they'll bolt to any LA ever made. I can't remember which transmission is behind the new Hemi but I seem to recall that it is larger and I'm not sure how easy it would be to get it to fit in one of our old cars. All the new transmissions are electronically controlled by the engine PCM but you can get an older A518 that can function without an engine computer.

Troy