62-68 Factory Super Stockers?

[WingCharger]

I have recently became interested in the 62-68 Super Stock factory flyers. My personal favorites are a 62 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart with 440 Trim, a 62 413 Max Wedge Plymouth Savoy, a 1968 Hemi Dart, and a 1968 Hemi Cuda. BUT, I have no idea what they did to convert these vehicles, or what sets them apart from the factory, besides their engine, and with the 68's, their stripped exteriors. I know on the 62-65's, they did almost everything possible to remove weight, but outside that, im clueless. I know in 64, they put light weight front ends on, but i dont know if they did this in 62.

If I find any of the vehicles I listed, it WILL become a clone, but I need to know what it takes to clone one before I dig in.

[Charger-Bodie]

I have recently became interested in the 62-68 Super Stock factory flyers. My personal favorites are a 62 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart with 440 Trim, a 62 413 Max Wedge Plymouth Savoy, a 1968 Hemi Dart, and a 1968 Hemi Cuda. BUT, I have no idea what they did to convert these vehicles, or what sets them apart from the factory, besides their engine, and with the 68's, their stripped exteriors. I know on the 62-65's, they did almost everything possible to remove weight, but outside that, im clueless. I know in 64, they put light weight front ends on, but i dont know if they did this in 62.

If I find any of the vehicles I listed, it WILL become a clone, but I need to know what it takes to clone one before I dig in.

I will start off by saying that it takes alot of money!

[WingCharger]

I have recently became interested in the 62-68 Super Stock factory flyers. My personal favorites are a 62 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart with 440 Trim, a 62 413 Max Wedge Plymouth Savoy, a 1968 Hemi Dart, and a 1968 Hemi Cuda. BUT, I have no idea what they did to convert these vehicles, or what sets them apart from the factory, besides their engine, and with the 68's, their stripped exteriors. I know on the 62-65's, they did almost everything possible to remove weight, but outside that, im clueless. I know in 64, they put light weight front ends on, but i dont know if they did this in 62.

If I find any of the vehicles I listed, it WILL become a clone, but I need to know what it takes to clone one before I dig in.

I will start off by saying that it takes alot of money!

To do what?

[Brock Samson]

just how many cars are you able to afford?..
your what?.. 14?.. 
i thought you are building a daytona clone...   


" If I find any of the vehicles I listed, it WILL become a clone, but I need to know what it takes to clone one before I dig in."

"It will be a Hemi Daytona 4-Speed clone, with body matching steelies, dog dish hubcaps, and redlines.
With the official planning and price calculations starting on my future clone (even though I dont have a charger.(")

"Found a 63 Plymouth Belvedere on CL, and am thinking of buying it. Unfortunantly it is a four door. BUT, I read in mopar collectors guide you can turn a four door into a two door with out frame moding, and am seriosly thinking of doing this."

[konigcharger]

I will start off by saying that it takes alot of money!

i'll add, lots of research, lots of time, lots of patience, and a little luck


when you actually buy a charger, or any one of the cars listed above. i will give you a more detailed answer

[Badbob]

a big part of the history of those cars were the drivers, many of whom were legends. The SS cars can never be cloned.

[Charger-Bodie]

I have recently became interested in the 62-68 Super Stock factory flyers. My personal favorites are a 62 413 Max Wedge Dodge Dart with 440 Trim, a 62 413 Max Wedge Plymouth Savoy, a 1968 Hemi Dart, and a 1968 Hemi Cuda. BUT, I have no idea what they did to convert these vehicles, or what sets them apart from the factory, besides their engine, and with the 68's, their stripped exteriors. I know on the 62-65's, they did almost everything possible to remove weight, but outside that, im clueless. I know in 64, they put light weight front ends on, but i dont know if they did this in 62.

If I find any of the vehicles I listed, it WILL become a clone, but I need to know what it takes to clone one before I dig in.

I will start off by saying that it takes alot of money!

To do what?

To do what you asked....build a clone super stock car. 

[Todd Wilson]

If I find any of the vehicles I listed, it WILL become a clone, but I need to know what it takes to clone one before I dig in.

Just a Dana 60.



Todd

[WingCharger]

Listen, what I mean is that, I have a lot of MoPars I like, a list at that. And which ever one I find first, is what I am going to do everything too. I dont plan on having more than one. Hell, I know I will probably never be able to afford a Daytona clone. But, if I find a Charger, the want ads come down, and thats where all the money goes. But, If I find a 62 dodge or plymouth, the ad also comes down, and I can live without a Charger. But, as you said about me wanting a Hemi Daytona, WHOS DREAM CAR ISNT A HEMI FOUR SPEED DAYTONA??

Here is every Mopar I like, organized by year, with what they would slowly eventually evolve into if I had them. I have no need to own more than one, because I like them pretty much all the same, and would love to just have one!:

1962 Dodge--SS 413 Max Wedge Clone
1962 Plymouth--SS 413 Max Wedge Clone
1968 Dodge Dart--SS 426 Hemi Clone
1968 Plymouth Barracuda--SS 426 Hemi Clone
1969 Plymouth Barracuda--M Code Cuda Clone
1968-1970 Dodge Charger--Hemi Four Speed Daytona
1967-1971 Plymouth GTX--3G Hemi in a Classic MoPar
1973-1974 AMC Javelin--Javelin AMX
1969 Dodge Coronet--Six Pack Super Bee Clone
1970 Dodge Coronet--Six Pack Super Bee Clone
1968-1970 Plymouth Road Runner--Low Option Street Brawler
1971 Plymouth Cuda--HemiCuda Shaker Hood Clone

[konigcharger]

WHOS DREAM CAR ISNT A HEMI FOUR SPEED DAYTONA? 

i'm not saying i'd kick one outta my driveway but there are many cars i'd rather have...

1973-1974 AMC Javelin--Javelin AMX 

this would make an excellent first car they are still relatively cheap, cool looking, and make decient amounts of power

[moparstuart]

 to quote warren zevon ( HE's just an excitable boy ) ! 

[WingCharger]

to quote warren zevon ( HE's just an excitable boy ) ! 

Dont knock Zevon! Ill get lawyers guns and money on your ass.

If I did build a ss clone, it would be raced. Ive liked them, actually longer than ive been interested in Mopar. I already had a number picked. (The cart before the horse again, I know)
My great grandpas best friend pulled tractors back in the day. One had a 440 out of a dodge truck, this is back in 1977, on a home bult frame, with a Farmall F-30 rear end. It was named 555-Triple Nickel. I was reading a magazine a while back, and found a SS car back in the day had this number, so I cant use it. Damnt. I wanted to use it to honor my great grandpa, because he ran the tractors with his friend.

[WingCharger]

WHOS DREAM CAR ISNT A HEMI FOUR SPEED DAYTONA? 

i'm not saying i'd kick one outta my driveway but there are many cars i'd rather have...

1973-1974 AMC Javelin--Javelin AMX 

this would make an excellent first car they are still relatively cheap, cool looking, and make decient amounts of power

Bad thing about the Javelin is nobody makes repro parts for them!!!! If it had a dented fender, two gallons of bondo! Rusted quarter, your fucked. They are my third pick, I have always liked them, but again, none in my area, in my price range.

[moparstuart]

to quote warren zevon ( HE's just an excitable boy ) ! 

Dont knock Zevon! Ill get lawyers guns and money on your ass.

If I did build a ss clone, it would be raced. Ive liked them, actually longer than ive been interested in Mopar. I already had a number picked. (The cart before the horse again, I know)
My great grandpas best friend pulled tractors back in the day. One had a 440 out of a dodge truck, this is back in 1977, on a home bult frame, with a Farmall F-30 rear end. It was named 555-Triple Nickel. I was reading a magazine a while back, and found a SS car back in the day had this number, so I cant use it. Damnt. I wanted to use it to honor my great grandpa, because he ran the tractors with his friend.

I wasnt knocking warren , i quoted him because i like his music !
   The statement was more a knock at you.  Yes you do put the cart before the horse !  That was my point !

[WingCharger]

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[Chad L. Magee]

From the list, the easiest (and potentially cheapest) one to build is either the 1969 or 1970 sixpack Superbee.  You only need a 2 dr. Coronet (more than likely a 440 model, as the 500 is more like the RTs) to start with.  Basically the same deal can be said for the RoadRunner clone using a Belvidere (or Satellite) 2dr coupe or hardtop.  A repopped fiberglass hood for the 1969 model will be cheaper to buy vs. the stuff for the ram air 1970 model (underneath ductwork is expensive).  You could even plop in a 383-4bbl. to drive it around while the 440 sixpack engine is being built without to much trouble.  The other cars on the list will be either too expensive for parts or have parts that would take you years to find.  If you want a totally correct 413 SS Max Wedge clone, good luck finding the Corning glass and aluminum front end pieces, as they did not make many spares, not to mention that the cross ram intakes cost a mint.  The A-body hemi stuff is cost prohibative for most people, even if you manage to find the stuff that you need (ever look to see what the Hemi specific parts cost on those?  Plan on at least $1500-2500+ just for the radiator, if one happens to come up for sale).  As for the 1969 M-code Cuda, parts for those are hard to get (rare orginal 69 Cuda hood scoops = big bucks!) but might be more possible than the Max Wedge or Hemi cars you want to clone.  You could potentially fabricate a copy of the hood scoops to save money, but then you will have to hunt down an orginal set to get the molds from.  The GTXs will be big bucks to do correctly as you will need Hemi specific parts, but could be possible if you were not concerned with how orginal it looks.  If you are not concerned about that, a 2 dr. Satellite can be used for the starting point and you could go for the Silver Bullet look.   The AMC will not cost as much, but you will soon learn why some people avoid them in the first place: lack of avaliable replacement parts, which will fustrate you in due time.  As for the Daytona and the Cuda, both are cost prohibative as you will either have to start with a 1968-70 Charger or a 1970-71 Barracuda, either one will cost you a mint just for a good shell to work with.  The parts to make them correct will be another big problem as repopped Daytona wings, noses and shaker hoodscoops are not cheap either.  My advice is to do more research and plan your project well in advance of buying a project.  Otherwise, you might just end up with a money pit in the end.......

[dpm68]

Hey, its a habit. I want a Charger, but dont (') have one. Whats (') one to do?

Save your money and buy one, like the rest of us. As for the factory S/S cars, too much to list as to what mods they had, and it depends on the year. Early altered, (wheel base) ones are noteworthy, but the 68 Cudas and Darts are the most revered and were shipped out to the Woodward Garage, I think. These particular beasts were retooled with highly modified hemis, Danas, fiberglass front ends, lightweight bumpers, heater/radio delete, one wiper (guess which side), stripped down van buckets, Corning side glass windows, the list goes on...and at present, no one within my realm, myself included, has enough money to buy one, but they're sure nice to look at.

[WingCharger]

Hey, its a habit. I want a Charger, but dont (') have one. Whats (') one to do?

Save your money and buy one, like the rest of us. As for the factory S/S cars, too much to list as to what mods they had, and it depends on the year. Early altered, (wheel base) ones are noteworthy, but the 68 Cudas and Darts are the most revered and were shipped out to the Woodward Garage, I think. These particular beasts were retooled with highly modified hemis, Danas, fiberglass front ends, lightweight bumpers, heater/radio delete, one wiper (guess which side), stripped down van buckets, Corning side glass windows, the list goes on...and at present, no one within my realm, myself included, has enough money to buy one, but they're sure nice to look at.

The altered wheelbase cars were run in A/FX. Not Super Stock

[moparstuart]

Hey, its a habit. I want a Charger, but dont (') have one. Whats (') one to do?

Save your money and buy one, like the rest of us. As for the factory S/S cars, too much to list as to what mods they had, and it depends on the year. Early altered, (wheel base) ones are noteworthy, but the 68 Cudas and Darts are the most revered and were shipped out to the Woodward Garage, I think. These particular beasts were retooled with highly modified hemis, Danas, fiberglass front ends, lightweight bumpers, heater/radio delete, one wiper (guess which side), stripped down van buckets, Corning side glass windows, the list goes on...and at present, no one within my realm, myself included, has enough money to buy one, but they're sure nice to look at.

The altered wheelbase cars were run in A/FX. Not Super Stock

are you like a 65 year old guy , playing a kid  ? 

[WingCharger]

Hey, its a habit. I want a Charger, but dont (') have one. Whats (') one to do?

Save your money and buy one, like the rest of us. As for the factory S/S cars, too much to list as to what mods they had, and it depends on the year. Early altered, (wheel base) ones are noteworthy, but the 68 Cudas and Darts are the most revered and were shipped out to the Woodward Garage, I think. These particular beasts were retooled with highly modified hemis, Danas, fiberglass front ends, lightweight bumpers, heater/radio delete, one wiper (guess which side), stripped down van buckets, Corning side glass windows, the list goes on...and at present, no one within my realm, myself included, has enough money to buy one, but they're sure nice to look at.

The altered wheelbase cars were run in A/FX. Not Super Stock

   are you like a 65 year old guy , playing a kid  ? 

I enjoy reading mopar magazines from the 70's, and the computer and internet is the greatest invention ever. I cant find any info on A/FX either.

[Chad L. Magee]

A/FX stuff was just starting in 1964-5 and progressed into Funny cars that you still see today.  There are some books out there specifically on the A/FX and SS cars, but I don't have their titles memorized (I have most of them in storage right now from my move to Kansas last month).  Check the bookstores/ebay and you might find them.  You should invest in building a collection of vintage car magazines (Hi-Performance Cars, Stock Car Racing, Drag Racing Illistrated, etc.) from the era (early 60s-mid 70s) if you really want to know more about specific types of cars.  It will cost you a bit (OK, alot), but it will help you find some of the information that you are missing from just doing internet searches.  Unfortunately, it will delay your project funds, so be prepared to accept that.  Remember, knowledge is power in the right hands.....