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WIW - Daytona Nose Cone & 'Z' Braces...

Started by xs29j8Bullitt, July 26, 2008, 09:19:06 PM

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xs29j8Bullitt

When I purchased my Daytona in the late 1980s, the entire frontend sheetmetal  of the car was missing.  I later acquired a very nice set of 1970 Charger fenders & hood to convert, as well as a mint set of fender scoops.  I am still missing the entire nose assembly, although I picked up Larry's repro nose brackets for the car.  I have been planning to buy a reproduction metal nose & related parts (Z braces, headlight buckets, etc), but have held off in the hope better reproductions would come out.  The parts recently on eBay peaked my interest...

A long-time friend offered to sell me some original Daytona parts:

1) A pair (L&R) of Daytona 'Z' Braces (nose cone 'ribs'), in nice condition, but with small access holes cut in flat areas of each (should be easily repaired).

2) A nice used original Daytona nose shell with minimal body filler for earlier damage...

...OR, a NOS Daytona nose shell  (He will keep one of the nose cones and sell the other).

WIW: 1) Pair of used Z braces needing minor repair
         2) Used nose cone needing minor repair
         3) NOS nose cone

As I said, he is a friend and I want to pay a price that reflects current fair market value for these parts...

Sorry, no pictures of the parts at the moment... here is a old photo of my Daytona tho...

Thanks for your help,

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

HKCharger


moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: HKCharger on July 26, 2008, 09:26:50 PM
i like your license plate #.

Its an old scan with the license plates "photoshopped"... so many ways to track down someone now-a-days that I don't bother doing it any more...  ;)


Quote from: moparstuart on July 26, 2008, 09:31:40 PM
I would say 5000.00

For the Z braces & either nose cone... or a nose cone alone?  Sounds a bit low, I think the JM reproduction nose cones are higher.

Thanks for the input Stuart!

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

moparstuart

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on July 26, 2008, 09:58:24 PM
Quote from: HKCharger on July 26, 2008, 09:26:50 PM
i like your license plate #.

Its an old scan with the license plates "photoshopped"... so many ways to track down someone now-a-days that I don't bother doing it any more...  ;)


Quote from: moparstuart on July 26, 2008, 09:31:40 PM
I would say 5000.00

For the Z braces & either nose cone... or a nose cone alone?  Sounds a bit low, I think the JM reproduction nose cones are higher.

Thanks for the input Stuart!

Allen
could be ,  but with condition issues and the bad economy thats what my guess was !!!!   if it was loaded up that would be a whole other story !
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

gtx6970

GLNOS had an NOS nose at Carlise a few years ago with a price tag of $30,000 , it did'nt sell afaik

nascarxx29

I sold Dave at PCG a set of original Z braces that someone butchered sometime back .
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

They were fixable found the reciept from 1998.Anothered butchered set of daytona z brace AKA bulkheads other than mine around I guess
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemigeno

Quote from: gtx6970 on July 27, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
GLNOS had an NOS nose at Carlise a few years ago with a price tag of $30,000 , it did'nt sell afaik

I had seen that Great Lakes nose on display last year at Carlisle - but it has since sold.  Gregg didn't tell me who bought it, where it went, or how much it sold for (nor did I ask).  It was a complete nose though, including complete headlamp assemblies, all the rubber air seal flaps around the radiator/fender closures, etc.  I wasn't looking to spend that kind of coin since all of my original metal/fiberglass can be re-used, but there were some components on that nose that just flat can't be found anymore.  DAMHIK...

My guess (which is worth exactly what you're paying for it, BTW) is $1-2k for the Z Braces, and $7-9k for the NOS nose shell.  $5-7k for the used nose if you went that direction, perhaps?

Still just a guess...

:Twocents:



nascarxx29

When I had looked sometime back at a set of NOS headlight doors.Ron had.He said he had a complete NOS daytona front clip
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

pettybird

NOS is nice but repop Z braces are a grand and they're perfect and you barely see them. 

i would say 7-9 on the NOS shell is right (because of the mystique surrounding the WORD NOS) while $4k would be a fair offer on the used one.

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: nascarxx29 on July 27, 2008, 11:58:56 AM
They were fixable found the reciept from 1998.Anothered butchered set of daytona z brace AKA bulkheads other than mine around I guess

...maybe not  :lol:

...looks like parts do get around  :yesnod:

The cutouts are larger than I expected, plus additional notches on the top flange... still very repairable, but probably twice the work that I expected.  I still plan to buy them... any new input on Fair Market Value would be appreciated... Geno?  :popcrn: Stuart?  :popcrn: Anyone else?  :popcrn:  :popcrn:

Pictures below...

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: pettybird on July 27, 2008, 10:26:32 PM
... repop Z braces are a grand and they're perfect and you barely see them. 

Who makes the best ones... the "new" vendor on eBay?  Thanks for the input...  :cheers:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

hotrod98

Don't know about the ones on e-bay, but I'm really happy with the set that I bought from Mike at Dayclona.
Since taking over Dayclone completely, his prices are much better as well.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

nascarxx29

Small world those are the Z brackets I had sold. I see my faded name on them still  .And by another coicedence a superbird I parted out the wing found its way to Stuarts FJ5 superbird conv Parts do get around :yesnod:
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

moparstuart

Quote from: xs29j8Bullitt on July 27, 2008, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: nascarxx29 on July 27, 2008, 11:58:56 AM
They were fixable found the reciept from 1998.Anothered butchered set of daytona z brace AKA bulkheads other than mine around I guess

...maybe not  :lol:

...looks like parts do get around  :yesnod:

The cutouts are larger than I expected, plus additional notches on the top flange... still very repairable, but probably twice the work that I expected.  I still plan to buy them... any new input on Fair Market Value would be appreciated... Geno?  :popcrn: Stuart?  :popcrn: Anyone else?  :popcrn:  :popcrn:

Pictures below...

Allen
if you dont buy them allen i would love to have them for my clone !  so let me know if you go with repo's instead    thanks
   
    I would guess 300- 400 each would be a fair price with all the cutting

 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

BigBlockSam

Dayclona. makes 2 differant ones . the more expensive ones are real nice. actually so are his cheaper ones . Rene
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

  [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/347b5v5.jpg[/img

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: hotrod98 on July 28, 2008, 12:02:08 AM
Don't know about the ones on e-bay, but I'm really happy with the set that I bought from Mike at Dayclona.
Since taking over Dayclone completely, his prices are much better as well.

Thanks Larry... I'll check 'em out... yours look VERY nice!  I will need a set for a future clone project.

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: nascarxx29 on July 28, 2008, 05:02:12 AM
Small world those are the Z brackets I had sold. I see my faded name on them still  .And by another coicedence a superbird I parted out the wing found its way to Stuarts FJ5 superbird conv Parts do get around :yesnod:

Now if the missing pieces (headlight buckets, doors, etc) would just gather around for a reunion!  :icon_smile_big:

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

xs29j8Bullitt

Quote from: moparstuart on July 28, 2008, 09:28:13 AM
if you dont buy them allen i would love to have them for my clone !  so let me know if you go with repo's instead    thanks
   
    I would guess 300- 400 each would be a fair price with all the cutting

Thanks for the $ value input Stuart...  I am going to try to use as many original parts as possible on the Daytona, but it is great to have good options!  I will be getting good repros for my Daytona clone project.

Allen
After 8 years of downsizing, whats left...
1968 Charger R/T, Automatic, 426 Hemi
1968 Polara 4Dr Sdn, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1968 Polara 4Dr HT, Automatic, 383
1969 Charger 500, 4 Speed, 440 Magnum
1969 Daytona, Automatic, 440 Magnum
1969 Road Runner, 4 Speed, 426 Hemi
1970 `Cuda, Automatic, 440-6BBL
1970 Challenger T/A, Automatic, 340 6 Pack
2004 Ram, Automatic, 5.7L Hemi
2009 Challenger SRT8, Automatic, 6.1L Hemi
<This Space Reserved for a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat, 8Sp Automatic,

FJMG

   I just picked up bucket assy's and a valence from Erik, the workmanship looks excellent to me. He advertises in DSAC.

nascarxx29

That be Eric Nelson out of Minnesota.I was going to lend him some of my NOS parts to copy years ago.He has a real daytona and used his own parts he fabricated to restore it
Eric Nelson

(612) 382-4723



erik.nelson@xerox.com

erikjohnnelson@hotmail.com
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

FJMG

   Thanks Nascarxx29, I just returned to this thread and realized I forgot to post his E-mail. BTW I am pretty sure the Xerox.com address is no longer valid.  For those who wish to contact him be patient, his work load is very time consuming but the wait is worth it.

BEAPARTS

Quote from: hemigeno on July 27, 2008, 12:56:41 PM
Quote from: gtx6970 on July 27, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
GLNOS had an NOS nose at Carlise a few years ago with a price tag of $30,000 , it did'nt sell afaik

I had seen that Great Lakes nose on display last year at Carlisle - but it has since sold.  Gregg didn't tell me who bought it, where it went, or how much it sold for (nor did I ask).  It was a complete nose though, including complete headlamp assemblies, all the rubber air seal flaps around the radiator/fender closures, etc.  I wasn't looking to spend that kind of coin since all of my original metal/fiberglass can be re-used, but there were some components on that nose that just flat can't be found anymore.  DAMHIK...

My guess (which is worth exactly what you're paying for it, BTW) is $1-2k for the Z Braces, and $7-9k for the NOS nose shell.  $5-7k for the used nose if you went that direction, perhaps?

Still just a guess...

:Twocents:





I think the nose cone that GLNOS has/had was purchased from Joel Cox for $3,500 with light damage from back in the day that he repaired.  Joel replaced his original nose in 1972 with an NOS piece that cost him $125.

hemigeno

Quote from: BEAPARTS on August 01, 2008, 11:01:33 AM
Quote from: hemigeno on July 27, 2008, 12:56:41 PM
Quote from: gtx6970 on July 27, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
GLNOS had an NOS nose at Carlise a few years ago with a price tag of $30,000 , it did'nt sell afaik

I had seen that Great Lakes nose on display last year at Carlisle - but it has since sold.  Gregg didn't tell me who bought it, where it went, or how much it sold for (nor did I ask).  It was a complete nose though, including complete headlamp assemblies, all the rubber air seal flaps around the radiator/fender closures, etc.  I wasn't looking to spend that kind of coin since all of my original metal/fiberglass can be re-used, but there were some components on that nose that just flat can't be found anymore.  DAMHIK...

My guess (which is worth exactly what you're paying for it, BTW) is $1-2k for the Z Braces, and $7-9k for the NOS nose shell.  $5-7k for the used nose if you went that direction, perhaps?

Still just a guess...

:Twocents:





I think the nose cone that GLNOS has/had was purchased from Joel Cox for $3,500 with light damage from back in the day that he repaired.  Joel replaced his original nose in 1972 with an NOS piece that cost him $125.


:o

nascarxx29

I came across these but havent found anything nose related

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701