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Stroked 440 combo question

Started by IllCharger, July 05, 2008, 11:35:52 PM

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firefighter3931

Quote from: oldschool on July 14, 2008, 04:58:28 PM
Quote from: firefighter3931 on July 13, 2008, 09:08:18 PM

Oldschool, could you post a dyno sheet from one of your 500in builds with the ICH DP intake manifold....i've never seen one on the dyno. Interested in where the tq/hp peaks come in.... :scratchchin:


Thanks, Ron

Here's the dyno sheet.  The yellow line is the current power level after dyno tuning, the pink line was the base line.  This is on a 68 charger with a hemi 4 speed, dana 60 with 3.54's, and stock steel magnum 500s. 

Check out that gain from adjusting timing and afr.  And look at that torque curve, its like a table. 

engine specs:
13.7 cr
295 cnc sr heads
indy dualplane
1000 cfm AED holley double pumper
tti step headers
MSD pro billet dist.
6-al box
comp. solid roller cam:272/276@.50  .661/.661
1.6 rockers

these are on a chasis dyno.


Very nice OS....killer torque curve. Nice to see the ICH DP pull so hard.....by far the best Dual plane manifold i've ever seen.  :2thumbs:  I'm sure the big roller cam and 13.7 compression are helping to carry the hp numbers up top.  :icon_smile_big:

What type of fuel are you running in this badboy ? C-112 ?



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

IllCharger

Should I have my block zero decked for the 440source 512 stroker kit?

oldschool

Quote from: IllCharger on July 18, 2008, 08:32:15 AM
Should I have my block zero decked for the 440source 512 stroker kit?

it depends on what compression ratio you are after. if you are looking for a pump gas motor i would let the machine shop determine that for you.
1968 cuda formula S bb 4-sp                          1968 Charger R/T 500" 4-sp
1970 Charger 580" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

oldschool

yes ron,i use c 112. i buy it by the drum,  (many drums)! :lol:
1968 cuda formula S bb 4-sp                          1968 Charger R/T 500" 4-sp
1970 Charger 580" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
1970 Cuda Convertible 500" 4-sp
TOO MUCH HORSEPOWER, IS ALMOST ENOUGH!

Rolling_Thunder

you dont need anything like the Indy heads to make good power...    I built a 440--> 496ci engine with a hydraulic  cam, edelbrock rpm heads, dual plane intake, 10.75 compression, and @" headers...    it made around 614hp @ 6000rpm   and 613tq @ 4500rpm...

indy heads or even ported edelbrocks will just make more power though...    this engine is currently a street only piece.
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

firefighter3931

Quote from: oldschool on July 18, 2008, 05:08:55 PM
yes ron,i use c 112. i buy it by the drum,  (many drums)! :lol:

I figured as much  :icon_smile_big:

How much is that stuff selling for nowadays ?  ;)

Up here in the great white north i'm sure it's well over $10 a gallon  :o


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

firefighter3931

Quote from: oldschool on July 18, 2008, 05:06:11 PM
Quote from: IllCharger on July 18, 2008, 08:32:15 AM
Should I have my block zero decked for the 440source 512 stroker kit?

it depends on what compression ratio you are after. if you are looking for a pump gas motor i would let the machine shop determine that for you.


Exactly.  :2thumbs:

You need to determine what type of fuel you want to use and build accordingly. The correct piston for a pump gas stroker build will have an inverted dome (dish) to keep the static compression ratio livable with that type of fuel. The head chamber volume also comes into play as well.

So, pick a set of heads first and then pick the correct piston for the application.  :Twocents:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs