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71' Fury disc. brakes for my b-body?

Started by dads_69, June 02, 2006, 01:18:36 AM

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dads_69

I found a 71' Fury with a complete disc. brake set up for my charger. Will the spindles work on my car without any problems or will I need to mod anything to make them work?
Thanks for any info.
Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

Blown70

I think up to 71 the big c-bodies worked.  I do not think 72's do.  Not exact on that one.  I think you have to make sure and take the proportioning valve.

Tom

dads_69

Thanks for the info. Tom. I am concerned about the heigth of the Furys spnidle vs. the chargers. From where the ball joints meet, top to bottom. If they are the same, then I will be okay, I hope. I will grab everything from the Fury also that I need.
Thanks again. Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

Blown70

Quote from: dads_69 on June 02, 2006, 10:02:13 AM
Thanaks for the info. Tom. I am concerned about the higth of the Furys spnidle vs. the chargers. From where the ball joints meet, top to bottom. If they are the same, then I will be okay, I hope. I will grab everything from the Fury also that I need.
Thanks again. Mark

Mark,  Again, there was something with the C-bodies.  They maybe wrong.  I know where some are on Dusters, but It maybe after 70 the C bodies do not work.  Not sure.  I know 69 C-bodies work.  Sorry I do not recall the exact year.

Tom

TylerCharger69

That Fury....is it a two door???   My dad had a '71 Fury III, 2 door  with formal roof  (concaved toward the inside)  and I've kinda been looking for one

dads_69

Its a 4 door Fury and I am told now it may be a 72' or 73' vs. a 71' model car. I haven't looked at the set up 100 % for fitment. I'm going to check it out this weekend though and hopefully I can use them vs. buying from SSBC or Willwood.
Thanks again guys for your input. Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

Blown70

Quote from: dads_69 on June 02, 2006, 01:45:29 PM
Its a 4 door Fury and I am told now it may be a 72' or 73' vs. a 71' model car. I haven't looked at the set up 100 % for fitment. I'm going to check it out this weekend though and hopefully I can use them vs. buying from SSBC or Willwood.
Thanks again guys for your input. Mark

Mark Pretty sure if it is 72 up they do not work.  Tom

andyf

C body brakes won't fit on a B body.  They are totally different.

TylerCharger69

What I would do.....is put a micrometer or caliper on the spindle shaft of each and see if they are the same.  Check the length too...after the hub  (front drum brakes) is removed.   In my theory...if the characteristics of measurement are the same....then  I would say they would work....just check thickness, and length

BlueSS454

I have a 72 Fury I was going to pull the spindles off of and use it for my Charger then I found out they don't work for whatever reason.  I bought the Fury not running, so I ended up fixing it, got it running, pretty good I might add.  I was trying to sell it, but if I can't I might end up pulling the motor for my cousins Cuda.  I hate to cut up a perfectly good caar just for that though.
Tom Rightler

andyf

I think that the NASCAR stock cars (kit cars) back in the 70's used C body brakes hung on B body suspension parts but they had some custom parts made up to do it.  You need a custom lower ball joint and custom upper control arms to do that swap.  The custom upper control arm is no big deal but I have no idea how to build a custom lower ball joint assembly.  That just isn't an easy part to fabricate.

So the bottom line is that you can't use C body brakes on a B body.  If you have a whole bunch of money to burn you might be able to get it to work but if you have that much money just buy a big brake kit.  I'll sell you a complete 13 inch Brembo kit for around $1800 or you can buy a killer Alcon setup from Baer for $3500.  Either of those kits will be cheaper than having custom ball joint assemblies and upper control arms built.

Blown70

Quote from: andyf on June 02, 2006, 09:34:13 PM
I think that the NASCAR stock cars (kit cars) back in the 70's used C body brakes hung on B body suspension parts but they had some custom parts made up to do it.  You need a custom lower ball joint and custom upper control arms to do that swap.  The custom upper control arm is no big deal but I have no idea how to build a custom lower ball joint assembly.  That just isn't an easy part to fabricate.

So the bottom line is that you can't use C body brakes on a B body.  If you have a whole bunch of money to burn you might be able to get it to work but if you have that much money just buy a big brake kit.  I'll sell you a complete 13 inch Brembo kit for around $1800 or you can buy a killer Alcon setup from Baer for $3500.  Either of those kits will be cheaper than having custom ball joint assemblies and upper control arms built.

Sorry I will take issue and disagree with you.... 70 and older C-bodies WILL Work just fine on a b-body.  They used a similar spindle to the A-body if not the same exact one up until 1970.   The newer than 70 will not.

Tom

Steve P.

I do have some memory problems, but I'm pretty sure you can use the c-body caliper brackets, 12 inch rotors, shields and calipers and bolt it all up to the F-M-J spindles. This is what I have been planning on doing. I damn sure hope I can as I have the C-body stuff in the shop now.. ::)
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

andyf

The C body bolt patterns are different and so are the bearing sizes.  But it seems like some people on the board don't agree so maybe the best thing for you to do would be to go out in the garage and try to fit them together.  If it works great, if not you'll need to find some late b body 11.75 rotors as they are the largest that will fit the FMJ knuckles.

One thing that could be confusing people is that in the late 70's some of the old C body names were used on the B and R body chassis.