Another Superbird fender tag on Ebay

[Alaskan_TA]

Anyone know where the car is or if it still exists? Tag is hard to read;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Data-Plate-70-Plymouth-Superbird_W0QQitemZ130230923400QQihZ003QQcategoryZ50452QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[nascarxx29]

I will see what I can find .I have a envelope superbird  remains .From a parted out superbird we used back in the day to build a FM3 ragtop superbird.Wonder what this tag a supebird story is

[nascarxx29]

It appears to end in 62.with a 17?662 175662.which shows in 79 to a lou Whitfeld Bakerfield CA.The other codes I can make out 116  052   670 codes for motor trans brakes and rear ratio .Found on Lynch road cars I believe 26 radiator C16 console P6XA black buckets B30 all superbird Nov 30
If it is lou w car tag .I do recall this car which was orange and had 440 call outs on it

[Aero426]

Lou's car was in very nice condition, so I doubt that tag is from his car.   I don't know where his old car currently is, but given the rust on the tag, it doesn't seem probable.

There is U0A176662, which surfaced for the first time in 2003 for sale, in good condition, with the same color and interior combo.   Curiously, the fender tag mounted on that car has a J99xxx special order number, which made no sense.   Only 999 Corporate Blue cars have had J99xxx numbers.    It is possible that 176662 has a reproduction fender tag with the wrong J number.   This is pure speculation on my part. 

[nascarxx29]

I will look at my superbird list and see if I see another 62 ending vin

[nascarxx29]

 

Title: Data Plate 70 Plymouth Superbird         
 
Condition: Used         
 






Description
I retired and relocated recently.  In moving I found a box of data plates and VIN tags from MOPARs I have owned, sold or scrapped over the years.  Since 1970 I've gone through over 150 of the cars. Remember there was a day when these cars were worth virtually nothing.  Many were stripped and scrapped.  Each time I scrapped or sold a builder car I kept the emblems and data plates to have a souvenier of the car.  I loved the cars and never expected them to be worth much more than they were then.  I'm guessing if the cars are still around the owner would like to have the original data plate and if it is one of the cars sent to salvage these make really neat collectors pieces.

This is a great tag it's for a hemit orange 70 Superbird I bought in Chattanooga, TN.  This car sat for years with lawn mowers parked under the nose cone.  I'm embarassed to tell you what I paid for this one!  What a deal. It was a 440 4 BBL with a T/F, buckets and console.  Tag is in fair conditionand.  It is difficult to make out the 3rd number of the sequence number.  VIN is RM23U0A17_662.

[nascarxx29]

I tend to agree with Doug possibly being 176662.

[nascarxx29]

The last 3 digits in the J 97 number or J 98.appears to end in 811
                                                                116                052               670
                                                                V19                26        C16
                                                                                                 V88               
                                                                 EV2              P6XA      TX9   B30   J9*811
                                                                 E86              D32        RM23  UOA 17*662

[nascarxx29]

I had a tag in worse shape then this .And had to flip it over and use chalk dust or chalk in the embossed numbers before it crumbled away worse and used a mirror to reverse and retrieve all info.I was able to show the actual weak tag to get a remake.From AG Backeast CT.who is probably not around anymore

[pettybird]

  Only 999 Corporate Blue cars have had J99xxx numbers.   

can you explain that better?  i happen to have my bcast sheet RIGHT HERE, and yes, it's J99525...  do you know any more?  i thought those were nearly completely random, and that the 999 cars were built in batches?

[Alaskan_TA]

I'll give it a try....

Any 1970 special order paint car would have a J prefix VON.

Some other special order cars like the Superbird had J prefix VONs as well.

So, if you had a special order car, with special order paint, the J prefix changed.

This left us with J97xxx & J98xxx (going up sequentially) for Superbird & J99xxx for a Superbird with special order paint.

[Alaskan_TA]

The special order 1970 Chrysler Hurst cars were J99xxx cars as well.

[nascarxx29]

And the Hurst 300 hood and trunklids were done by Creative Industries.As the the wingcars and lift offhood cars

[62 Max]

# 178662 is also a bird.

[nascarxx29]

Thats 1 of the few combos with that ending vin I ran across.171662 nothing showing 175662 Vit C lou W Ca car 176662 nothing showing vit C 178662 Ca car .This fender tag shows EV2

[nascarxx29]

Im not sure if they built in sequence numbered batches Joe M PA car 166*** Barry K PA is 158*** used to be Steve B car Buffalo NY.And seen others besides these.And the vins varied.C37D OR 999 Is what I look for
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,38347.0.html

[Aero426]

It is definitely not 171662.  You can see that digit is clearly not a 1, and does not appear to me to have anything to represent the top of an 8.     I would still vote that it is 176662.

[moparstuart]

  I was the winner of the auction , if anyone knows of the real owner of the car ,it's their's other wise it's my suveniour!

[Aero426]

When you get the tag,  flip it over and see if you can read it. 

[moparstuart]

  I will

[Chris G.]

  I was the winner of the auction , if anyone knows of the real owner of the car ,it's their's other wise it's my suveniour!

Nice!  Let's hope the car shows up. You got off easy only dropping $100.

ps- Anyone remember when member PistolPete won a bunch of tags? He said he would try and reunite the $600 worth of fender tags he bought with the current owners of the cars (for a fee), but did that ever happen? Still wondering where those tags sit today. 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,20616.30.html

[nascarxx29]

Who remembers a guy I think Alex was his name claiming to have all kinds of buildsheets just call in you vin to confirm 

[70gtx440dana]

Hey XX29!!! I see you own U0A166242 Superbird. I have the original 4 speed trans from U0A166241. Just wondering if you know
anything about this car. Would like to reunite the trans if it is still out there somewhere.   Joe   jsawyer@cablespeed.com

[BigBlockSam]

I was the winner of the auction   

how about this auction

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=260255188102

did you hang this pink fob from the mirror of your wing car , big guy. 

[moparstuart]

 Thanks for calling me out of the closet there rene !   But really thats the hazards of letting my wife use my ebay account ! I rarely used it anymore so she has taken it over with her cross stitch stuff.   


  I did get an email from him and i should have the fender tag this week sometime .  Lets hope ?  he didnt have a paypal account so we had to do it snail mail .

[moparstuart]

  OK i got the tag today the last line on it is   E86 D32 RM23 U0A17 6662  had to get the 6 from the back the front is really rusty

     so according to doug this is a known car ?

  Who ever owns the car can have it for my 150.00 investment .

dougs quote earlier

  Lou's car was in very nice condition, so I doubt that tag is from his car.   I don't know where his old car currently is, but given the rust on the tag, it doesn't seem probable.

There is U0A176662, which surfaced for the first time in 2003 for sale, in good condition, with the same color and interior combo.   Curiously, the fender tag mounted on that car has a J99xxx special order number, which made no sense.   Only 999 Corporate Blue cars have had J99xxx numbers.    It is possible that 176662 has a reproduction fender tag with the wrong J number.   This is pure speculation on my part.  

[Aero426]

I think the car running around with that number has a repro tag, or worse. 

[moparstuart]

I think the car running around with that number has a repro tag, or worse. 

  do you know who's car it is , or how i can contact them.  I hope it's not the worse senerio ! I do have the guys info that supposidly parted out the car .

[nascarxx29]

Congrats glad you were able to retrieve the info from the back

[moparstuart]

  I am still trying to find the owner of this car to get the tag back them   

[moparstuart]

 

[moparstuart]

    thiis tag is very desentigrated but this picture get you a clean shot of the vin !

[hemigeno]

Interesting oddity on that tag (at least I think there is)...  Isn't there supposed to be a space in between the plant designator and the VIN sequence number?

[moparstuart]

Interesting oddity on that tag (at least I think there is)...  Isn't there supposed to be a space in between the plant designator and the VIN sequence number?

I have dave patik looking at it I will ask him ? on this as well
   

[Alaskan_TA]

Spacing errors are common for Lynch Road tags.

Here is the last image flipped for easier reading.

[moparstuart]

Spacing errors are common for Lynch Road tags.

Here is the last image flipped for easier reading.

thanks for flipping it  , I am computer challenged and could never do that in a million years thanks again !

[moparstuart]

 I still have this tag ,  would love to get it back to it's proper car   vin RM23 UOA176662

[Aero426]

I will run a blurb in the DSAC newsletter.   Like I said, someone was looking at a car with that VIN a few years back.   So the car is still around in some form.

[moparstuart]

  thanks doug your awesome man.

[moparstuart]

got this email today    

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3:11 PM

Galen V. Govier

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From:   Galen V. Govier (gvgovier@mhtc.net)
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Stuart Sutton:



Our records indicate that you may the original fender tag for this vehicle.



Could you please call me at 608 412 ££££ so we may discuss.







Thank you.

Diane at GTS
608 326-6346
E-mail:  gts@mhtc.net
Web page:  www.galengovier.com


       

[Bob T]

So, two years later there could be a good outcome for someone 

[nvrbdn]

how cool stuart. hope it gets back to its original home

[moparstuart]

yes i got the call today    current owner is looking for the tag  

[F6Bee]

yes i got the call today    current owner is looking for the tag  

That is pretty cool, 150 clams and it is his, good deal.

[moparstuart]

yes i got the call today    current owner is looking for the tag  

That is pretty cool, 150 clams and it is his, good deal.

yes it has been my souvenir but I always hoped the car was still out there and it could be united ,  car is in ohio and current dealer is sending for the tag  

[70Sbird]

Good Job Stuart!
it has to feel pretty good to have a part in reuniting documentation/BS/or FT with its original car.
Good Karma coming your way!
Scott

[BigBlockSam]

definitely Good Karma 

[moparstuart]

Good Job Stuart!
it has to feel pretty good to have a part in reuniting documentation/BS/or FT with its original car.
Good Karma coming your way!
Scott

if only i could find this stuff for my 500 or some original driver train

[69_500]

Glad to hear that one actually is going to make it back to the car it should. I have not had any luck with fender tags like that, but I did get a broadcast sheet back to the right car after buying it on Ebay.

[Arnie Cunningham]

   Excellent Work!

Maybe someone will find my 70 bucket seats with the broadcast sheet in them.  Last seen in Southwest North Dakota 

[moparstuart]

TAG IS NOW IN OHIO at dealer and the car has sold again

[SPS]

Hi,
here is a bird with the VIN RM23U0A176662



http://inventory.rk-motors.com/CarDetails_sold_post2010.asp?VIN=131864

[nascarxx29]

http://www.bjmotors.biz/1970RedSuperBird.html#specs Same J number 99852
http://www.bjmotors.biz/1970RedSuperBird.html

[fc7_plumcrazy]

the faked tag on the car was probably made up when the original tag was MIA.
Thought the original tag and the car were united again, so I wonder why it still carries the fake?

Carsten

[moparstuart]

the faked tag on the car was probably made up when the original tag was MIA.
Thought the original tag and the car were united again, so I wonder why it still carries the fake?

Carsten

original tag is very rusty and only readable fully from behind

[fc7_plumcrazy]

yes but the first line on the top is different as well as the VON isn't the same. Compare your old tag to the new one.
It is NOT a reproduction of the old one

Carsten

[moparstuart]

i would hope they clean up the old one best they can and get it back on the car or have a new one made that is correct