Hemi Daytona Under the Knife

[Aero426]

Someone posted a photo of this car on the "If you could back in time" thread on the general board.

The car has recently been purchased by a new owner and has been torn down for a ground up re-restoration.   The shop in Slinger Wis that did the R6 Mr Norm Daytona restoration is doing the work. 

[nascarxx29]

Cal Andersons 409075 that car looks like
http://www.showyourauto.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=86

[FJMG]

   Doug, what was all that wrong with it?  Didn't this thing just sell for around the $400,000 mark?

[69bronzeT5]

   Doug, what was all that wrong with it?  Didn't this thing just sell for around the $400,000 mark?

Exactly, why re-do it?

[Aero426]

   Doug, what was all that wrong with it?  Didn't this thing just sell for around the $400,000 mark?

By most peoples standards, there was nothing wrong with it.   It would not have won any major awards, but was still very, very nice.   Just a case of the original and still pretty fresh restoration not measuring up to "modern" expectations.      It still had an original interior.   The fenders used on it did not have holes and screens in them.    The underbody was not detailed to a modern concours standard.     But if you walked by the car, you would drop your jaw at any notion of re-restoration.   It was that nice.   It will take some deep pockets to "take it to the next level".

[FJMG]

Thanks for the link nascarxx29. I can see what you are describing Doug. So basically this is a very nice hemi-4spd that could almost be driven to some shows that is being taken "to the next level".  Hmmm, I kinda like the driving part!

[Aero426]

Thanks for the link nascarxx29. I can see what you are describing Doug. So basically this is a very nice hemi-4spd that could almost be driven to some shows that is being taken "to the next level".  Hmmm, I kinda like the driving part!

More so, it was a trailer queen that was capable of being driven to shows.  Way too nice for just a driver.   Figure that the resto was started over ten years ago, and finished within the last couple years.    If it was my car, I would have been plenty pleased the way it was.

[moparstuart]

  some people are way more of a perfectionist then I. I would have loved it the way it was .   

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Wow, that car needed "freshening up"....My car is a basket case then

Love that color in the sun

[tan top]

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[69_500]

Hmmmm, so what all needed redone?  Car looks pretty darn good to me. Although haven't had the chance to look it over in person that closely. Looks very good in pictures though. I guess if you gonna have a HEMI Daytona and restore it why not go to the "next" level and do it all OEM correct right? I am with FJMG though I like the aspect of driving these cars.

[nascarxx29]

I got a copy of its buildsheet and seen the car before.When its restored will it be matching numbers.Though it didnt start off like that

[bzabodyn]

I've always heard the rule of thumb is after 90 points, it costs $10k extra/point... I'm also of the opinion that the guy should enjoy it as is and look at doing this type of resto 10 yrs down the road...

BZ

[pettybird]

Doug was this car at Colin's last year?

[Aero426]

Doug was this car at Colin's last year?

Yes, same car, new owner. 

[PocketThunder]

So Doug, any new work being done to this one?   

[Aero426]

No news, but I'm sure its rolling along.  Maybe this weekend I will find something out about it.

[hemi68charger]

SWEET !!!!  I love that color............. Would look great next to Dana, eh Danny and Paul?   

[PocketThunder]

SWEET !!!!  I love that color............. Would look great next to Dana, eh Danny and Paul?   

Although i have succumbed to keeping my car the original color, i would think one Dark Bronze car in the garage would be enough for me.   

[hemi68charger]

SWEET !!!!  I love that color............. Would look great next to Dana, eh Danny and Paul?   

Although i have succumbed to keeping my car the original color, i would think one Dark Bronze car in the garage would be enough for me.   

Ahhhhhh,, then it'll only be me that has to deal with my friend's saying I have a "turd" for a car.........  er,, two turds.............. 

[PocketThunder]

SWEET !!!!  I love that color............. Would look great next to Dana, eh Danny and Paul?   

Although i have succumbed to keeping my car the original color, i would think one Dark Bronze car in the garage would be enough for me.   

Ahhhhhh,, then it'll only be me that has to deal with my friend's saying I have a "turd" for a car.........  er,, two turds.............. 

Dont get me wrong, my car will stay T7, and i will still have the delight of my spouse telling me it looks like a big brown turd floating down the road! 
I was thinking about a good name for my car since Turd Car just doesnt have the ring to it that Dana does.  But if i shorten it to just T.C. then maybe i can paint it up to look like TC's chopper on Magnum PI. 

[moparstuart]

works for me    TC     

[FJMG]

   Any news on this car?

[Aero426]

The last photo I saw (not online), it was stripped to the bones and looked like it was getting a trunk floor.   The rear tail panel was off.

[Bluestar]

SWEET !!!!  I love that color............. Would look great next to Dana, eh Danny and Paul?   

Although i have succumbed to keeping my car the original color, i would think one Dark Bronze car in the garage would be enough for me.   

Ahhhhhh,, then it'll only be me that has to deal with my friend's saying I have a "turd" for a car.........  er,, two turds.............. 

Dont get me wrong, my car will stay T7, and i will still have the delight of my spouse telling me it looks like a big brown turd floating down the road! 
I was thinking about a good name for my car since Turd Car just doesnt have the ring to it that Dana does.  But if i shorten it to just T.C. then maybe i can paint it up to look like TC's chopper on Magnum PI. 

Not that it has any bearing on the discussion at hand, but the pilot that owned and flew that chopper on Magnum, P.I.  crashed that particular helicopter during some contracting work.  I don't remember what the assignment was but the crash was on Destroyed in Seconds.

[maxwellwedge]

Did Bill Weiman own that car once? I saw one just like at at his house a few years ago. The car needed a proper resto - It had been done by a rebuilder - not a restorer. It's a Hemi Daytona - The original doomsday machine - It deserves a proper restoration.

[Aero426]

Did Bill Weiman own that car once? I saw one just like at at his house a few years ago. The car needed a proper resto - It had been done by a rebuilder - not a restorer. It's a Hemi Daytona - The original doomsday machine - It deserves a proper restoration.

It is the car that passed though Weiman's hands, among others.  Frankly, that car was the perfect candidate to actually live the dream of a Hemi Daytona and do some touring events with.     Get some use and enjoyment from it, and then bring it up to todays standard if you wish.

Yes there are some things that were not at today's levels.  But my gosh, the car was just completed in 2005.   Understanding the whole story of the car,  I actually thought it was very nice as completed.     Much of the work including the paint was done well over a decade ago, although the reassembly was not finished until 2005.    The car was owned by a Chrysler parts manager for about 25 years, and was done without a blank check, and to the standard that was accepted at the time he started the project.    I had a hard time believing someone would want to pull it apart after it just got finished.     It still had its original white interior.

The cost to go back and make it, ahem, "right",  will be through the roof.    All I know is that if my Daytona looked that good, I'd be happy.    Personally, I think it was a shame to tear it back down.   

[maxwellwedge]

I would have driven it around for a year or three as well, accumulated the parts (and the $$$) and gone at it. I never start a resto without having all the hard to find stuff in hand. I drive all my stuff - restored or survivor. It is what it is in any condition - A Hemi Daytona. I meant no offence to the fellow that had the work done.

[69_500]

Saw that car at the Mopar nationals a few years back. Was pretty darn nice to look at. If it was mine I'd have driven the wheels off of it. Not perfect, but ideal for just cruising.

[XS29J]

 

[nascarxx29]

Documentation XX29J9B409075

[sound5262]

there is a clone for sell on ebay that is in canada for $59k. it appears to me that it would be cheaper to buy rather than to build. i,m in the process in cloning a bird, will send some pics as soon as i figure out how. got parts for sell.

[Aero426]

Bump

[moparstuart]

 

[blake68rt]

Was this car ever owned by Tim Wellborn?

[Aero426]

Was this car ever owned by Tim Wellborn?

No.  This one is T5.   Tim owns the T7 car Kevin Greene owned and before that Otis Chandler. 

[nascarxx29]

 Tims XX29J9B412548 came from my local area sold new in Ambler Pa owners Don Klump then Greg Joseph to Otis Kevin Greene to Tim currently.The other T5 Cal anderson J9B409075