22 inch on a Charger 68

[Birkholm]

Hallo guys..

first: i´m a new member of this forum, and a 22 years old guy from Denmark

2 years ago I buy my first american car, a Dodge Charger 1968

take a look : http://www.bilgalleri.dk/html/gal_visbil.asp?ID=88688&ipc=278409

the car have 10*20 inch wheels behind, and 7*18 inch in front

this winter the car is going to get a new paint job, in a color called "deep red to black", and some new rims

do any of you guys knows if 10*22 inch behind can fit on a Charger 68 ?!

[Birkholm]

this will be build as a showcar, and not a racecar ..

[CB]

you even want to get bigger wheels then you have now? 
leave those wheels for those who want to pimp their SUVs.
Not too many guys dig 18+ inch wheels on Chargers

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,45088.0.html 

CB

welcome BTW, your 68 looks nice!

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Welcome to the site

Love your 68....has a tough stance as it is.

Moving this to the appropriate section....

[Dave22443]

Wow, that car looks great just like it sits.  Why change it?

[Blown70]

WHile I am a fan of the larger diameter rim, 22" is pushing it really.  However that being said it is your car too.  YOU need also to do what you like.  I think it looks good as is.

Tom

[bill440rt]

WHile I am a fan of the larger diameter rim, 22" is pushing it really.  However that being said it is your car too.  YOU need also to do what you like.  I think it looks good as is.

Tom

Again, your car, but most car guys who like larger wheels would agree that 20" is probably the max you'd want to go & still look tasteful, IMHO. Even most retro-mod car builders these days rarely use anything over 20" on these cars.
Personally, I went with 19's & 18's on my '69, & I like the look. 20"s would have looked good, too, but I wanted a little more tire sidewall.

[Silver R/T]

anything bigger than 18's looks bad on a Charger, IMO unless youre going for that "gangsta" look

[mally69]

Welcome to the site. Great looking car and stance BUT loose the wheels it just don't look right. just my    But everything else is perfect. I really like the color combo.

[mikesbbody]

anything bigger than 18's looks bad on a Charger, IMO unless youre going for that "gangsta" look

i agree with silver 100% there are guys here who have 17 on the front and 18 on the back that is the largest i would go. too big a wheel and not enough tire just dont look right imo i like the sidewals to be at least "50"  welcome to the site 

[69bronzeT5]

The car looks awesome the way it is. I wouldnt go any bigger..

[Dans 68]

While the majority of members here say don't go even bigger (me included), it is your car, after all, so do it your way. It could fit a 22" wheel, but it depends on how "thin" the sidewall is. What is the aspect ratio on the tire that you want to use? Mock it up (add a cardboard cutout over the existing wheel/tire combo) and see first hand! And welcome to the site! 

Dan

[Birkholm]

hallo again..

I can see that all of you think it´s a bad idea with 22 inch in bag... the tires I want to fit on the car would be 295/25/22 and 225/30/20 in front

now I´m driving with 285/30/20 and 215/35/18 in front

BUT .. in Denmark there maybe is 25 Chargers (68 and 69), and I have seen a few Chargers include mine, with 20inch wheels.. USA is a much much bigger country than USA, so I´m a little confussed if none ever have seen a Charger with 22 inch in bag ?!

I really want to build my Charger as a real showcar

[Charger74]

A few pictures have been posted here with Chargers and 22's".  They just don't look right.  Again though, it's your car, if you find wheels that look right in that size and your only going to be showing the car, then that is your choice.    However, if you plan to drive the car, remember, the bigger wheels/smaller sidewall add considerably to a harsh ride and you will feel the difference.

[Nacho-RT74]

IMHO 17" is the max fit to make look good rubbers profile ( maybe 18", but still think 17" is tops ) ... Bigger than that will get a TRAIN instead a car. If you go with 22", forgett the rubbers and make it ride on a railroad.

Of course is your car, but I would keep in the way it is, WHAT IS GREAT  ( even the 20" on back  )

[Birkholm]

Charger74 ... can you help me finding a picture or 2, with a Charger on 22 inch wheels ??

right now the engine is 360cui from year 2000, so right now is not a race-car

I never use the car to race or burning rubber... yeah, I know is a Charger, a muscle car, but I only use the car as a real cool cruiser


"Cruisin´ is not a crime !"

[Nacho-RT74]

I never burn rubber either, but I was meaning about the look... rubbers look good

mine is a daily dirver ( When is not parked for some reason LOL )

[six-tee-nine]

Welcome here,


I'd say your car looks great and I like a bigger rim under a Charger but I concider 18" the top, If I was you, I'd lose the rears and replace them by a set of 18" wheels.
But hey, that's just my 

[mikesbbody]

 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,27726.0.html         this one i started awhile back not a 68 but you get the idea hopefully it will change your mind about the 22's.

[Musicman]

The rims on there now are already way to big... it looks like a big Red Baby Cariage or a Stagecoach.
Get some sidewalls showing on there 

[Birkholm]

Musicman ... that picture is perfekt..

I think it´s very cool with bigger wheels behind, than the front..

I´m also only 22 years old, so maybe that´s why i like the big wheels

[Birkholm]

mikesbbody  .. thank you ...

it´s to big on that car, but only because it´s the wrong type of wheels, and because it´s 22 inch in front.. !

22 inch in the bag.. well, it´s ok, but 22 inch in front is to much...

22 in the bag with 295/25 and 20 in front with 225/30 ... hmm.. hell yeah ..

mikesbbody  .. you don´t have any pictures of  Charger 68/69/70 with 22 inch ?


I know now, that some of you think this is a little bit crazy..

[0X01B8]

Well, huge wheels are the trend.  Anyway, welcome to the site and good looking car.     I had 17s (small by comparison to 22s) on the rear and eventually got sick of getting punished for it on bad or even marginal roads.  I'm much more comfortable with 15 inch tires - sure they're a bit flabby and the handling has taken a small step backwards, but the ride is so much nicer.  Maybe Denmark roads are nicer than where I live (Michigan, USA) and you won't kill your suspension.      

[mikesbbody]

Hi birkholm, and welcome to the site! sorry, i dont have any pics of any 68-70 chargers with 22's but if you do a search on this site you may find some (there are alot with 17-18's) my favourite look when it comes to "big wheels" is 17 on front 18 on the rear (this is probably small for you?) its all about getting the proportions right imo (sidewall height). At the end of the day its your car to do with as you please have you thought about going for smaller wheels (and keeping the bigger ones?) what about a set of 15's with fat tires? to be honest, if i had the $ i would have some big wheels but i would always keep my 15's that way i would get the best of both wheels. I say dont go any bigger but its your choice 

[mikesbbody]

did anyone mention the "big wheel" thread on this same page? same deal, this guy has 20's on the back talking about 22's

[0X01B8]

Like I said, it's the trend, but .... Where do you stop?  Don't make me post a picture of a Impala with like, 50" rims ....

Really, let's talk reality & function - it's harder than hell to find 295/50/15s anymore, so if you want some fatties, what can you get in a 16?  Mainly truck tires.  Next up is 17 and there are a ton of good choices in tires, but now we're treading (no pun intended) into the "kill me, kill me" punishment of feeling every bump and imperfection in the road, but if that doesn't bother you, no big deal.  Maybe you need 18s to clear some big rotors and calipers, so fine.  There's plenty of members with the 18/17 combo and if done well, it looks killer. (keepat, mr angry, etc)

Just my  But you will get sick of the giant rims eventually and get about 20 cents on the $ when you try and dump them later.  This whole big wheel trend reminds me of Flavor Flav and his clock necklace.  He upgrades about every year. I figure in about 5-10 years he won't even be able to walk around cause his clock is gonna be about 2 feet wide, weigh 100 pounds and his neck will snap off some day, hopefully on camera.  But don't pay too much attention to me, I'm grumpy today.   

-john

[Birkholm]

why do you guys keep talking about big sidewalls ..

maybe 22 inch is to much, but my only questions was, if it can fit...
I will keep my 20 inch wheels, and don´t go smaller !

hmm.. I been looking at your profiles, and I can see that most of you are 30-45 years old, and maybe that´s why you don´t like the big wheels, because it´s to "new/ trendy".. whatever
(sorry if I sound like an a**hole*)

maybe when I get a little bit older, i can see the cool ind 15 inch with fat sidewalls

[MSRacing89]

why do you guys keep talking about big sidewalls ..

maybe 22 inch is to much, but my only questions was, if it can fit...
I will keep my 20 inch wheels, and don´t go smaller !

hmm.. I been looking at your profiles, and I can see that most of you are 30-45 years old, and maybe that´s why you don´t like the big wheels, because it´s to "new/ trendy".. whatever
(sorry if I sound like an a**hole*)

maybe when I get a little bit older, i can see the cool ind 15 inch with fat sidewalls

I would stick with 20's max.  I went with 19's in the rear and am happy.  Many more tire choices with 20".  With 22" you are probably looking at some wheel well mods to get her sitting low.  Also you may have to use a SUV/light truck tire to get the look you want.

To all that say big wheels are a trend, that is silly.  They will be around for a long time.  I love the old muscle car look and appreciate that era, but times are a changin'!  When we originally made choice for what is now called, Mr. Angry, not to many people had objections to larger wheels.  I say, build what you like as long as cars are getting worked on by the younger generation, that is all that matters.

[Musicman]

Sorry... had too, just couldn't resist   

[Birkholm]

Musicman  ... HAHA.... ! 

[Foreman72]

nothing like a monster truck huh musicman...but i dont care who you are, that is a gorgeous car ...do to it what you will but i think its smoking right now...but you might run into some hassles with fitting if you go bigger...the trend is big wheels but my limit on muscles is 18 and i'm 17 years old...but as i said, its your car, just know it looks insane right now...can;t wait to see pics of it when its "done"...again...

[Foreman72]

whats the price of gas like in Denmark 

[Birkholm]

gas price is right now about 11,50 danish crowns..

it´s about 2,5 dollars..

[Musicman]

Actually, I don't believe it's the rim size that people object to really, just look at some of the caricatures we draw of our cars. I think it's a question of sidewall exposure and proportions. Back in the 60's there were cars that had huge rims and tires on them, and everyone thought it was cool... a little cartoonish maybe, but still pretty cool none-the-less. However, when you take a big rim and rap a rubber band around it, well now it looks like your riding on spokes like an old buggy, or a horse drawn carriage. I believe this is really the argument that most of the older generation guys have with the larger rims. Lets face it, a Model-T looks a lot cooler with a good set of wide tires and rims. It's not the rim size itself, it's just a question of how much rubber you can get on there and still get it to fit in the hole. Of course you can go the other way too... to small of rim and to much rubber... it's all a question of artistic proportions. The design of the car is an important factor as well... can you imagine 14" rims and tires on the new Chally    the design of the car won't allow it. It was purposely designed with large rims in mind.
Bottom line... it's your car and you should not care what other people think. Do whatever makes you happy... It's OK to ask for suggestions and opinions, but in the end it's an individual decision.

[Nacho-RT74]

gas price is right now about 11,50 danish crowns..

it´s about 2,5 dollars..

I guess by liter

[viper r/t]

Guess I should chime in here haha

My '69 with foose 22's on the rear and 20's on the front.
Most likely they will find a new home in a few days, but I admit they have grown on me alot lol
Keep in mind i'm 17 so ya know I'm gonna like 'em a little     

[devilgear]

Wow what a great look and stance. Don't change anything it looks awesome. I like the 22's on the back with something a little smaller in front. Great job!!!

[1974dodgecharger]

does everyone still think they are too big for the folks that said they were i  2008?

[bill440rt]

does everyone still think they are too big for the folks that said they were i  2008?

Too big for my tastes.
But if he likes them that's all that matters.

[myk]

Actually, I don't believe it's the rim size that people object to really, just look at some of the caricatures we draw of our cars. I think it's a question of sidewall exposure and proportions. Back in the 60's there were cars that had huge rims and tires on them, and everyone thought it was cool... a little cartoonish maybe, but still pretty cool none-the-less. However, when you take a big rim and rap a rubber band around it, well now it looks like your riding on spokes like an old buggy, or a horse drawn carriage. I believe this is really the argument that most of the older generation guys have with the larger rims. Lets face it, a Model-T looks a lot cooler with a good set of wide tires and rims. It's not the rim size itself, it's just a question of how much rubber you can get on there and still get it to fit in the hole. Of course you can go the other way too... to small of rim and to much rubber... it's all a question of artistic proportions. The design of the car is an important factor as well... can you imagine 14" rims and tires on the new Chally    the design of the car won't allow it. It was purposely designed with large rims in mind.
Bottom line... it's your car and you should not care what other people think. Do whatever makes you happy... It's OK to ask for suggestions and opinions, but in the end it's an individual decision.

I would say that some of the ire towards big rims and rubber band tires is the "performance" aspect of it.  People who are serious about the performance of their cars, the ability to turn and burn, won't run a giant sized wheel with a rubber band tire on it.  To many the big rim/rubber band look is akin to stickers, fart cans and triple-decker spoilers; in other words it doesn't represent performance, rather image, and to many that's just unacceptable.  Additionally, the look has nothing to do with age-there're plenty of 30,40 something guys rolling on donk'ed out rubber band tire'd cars...

[surmanajaja]

yup they still look ugly and always will. i have seen one or two 68-70 chargers with 20´s at the rear that didnt look horrible,. but i would probably stay at 17-19 wheels..

[bull]

I would never put wheels on my Charger that are as big as my radiator. Nothing against viper r/t up there but that looks all wrong to me. 18" is as big as I'd ever go, and I don't even see that happening.

[1974dodgecharger]

I have 20s for the rear and 18s in front...i. Like the OP car but the 22s thats out of my league...

[Cooter]

Trying to hard....way too hard imo.

[1974dodgecharger]

Trying to hard....way too hard imo.

As they say pimpin ain't easy......

[MaximRecoil]

can you imagine 14" rims and tires on the new Chally    the design of the car won't allow it. It was purposely designed with large rims in mind.

I can imagine it, and it would look a lot better (and 15" wheels would look the best). How do you design a car with large wheels in mind, when the tire diameter is what affects size considerations of the wheel wells, and the tire diameter for these oversized wheels hasn't really changed? For example, I have 235/70R15s on my '69 Charger, which have a diameter of 28". The 2013 Challenger R/T has 235/55R18s, which have a diameter of 28.2". Either tire size will fill the wheel wells by about the same amount, but the 15" wheels don't suffer from the "too much wheel, not enough tire" syndrome; they are visually more balanced.



Now, you may prefer the look of those cartoon wheels on top, but there is nothing about the car's aesthetics that demands them.

This reminds me of how the Magnum, P.I. Ferrari went from awesome to not so awesome during the course of the series.

Awesome:



Not so awesome:

[myk]

Gonna have to say that Challenger with the "cartoon" wheels looks awesome.  As for the '308, it's a good looking car either way but I'd take it with the bigger wheels; I can't wait to see the new 18's on my Charger-to each their own...

[MaximRecoil]

Midget sidewalls look weak, pathetic; never a good thing for a structural component in terms of aesthetics; and tires are about as structural as you can get; they are ultimately holding up the entire car. Also, as I mentioned earlier, vertically-challenged sidewalls combined with cartoon wheels are visually unbalanced.

They are also regressive:

[Homerr]

Ugh, get a Dodge Magnum to put those silly 22's on!

[bill440rt]

To me, the Ferrari & Challenger with the smaller wheels looks like it's riding on balloons.
On a Charger, personally I do not like wheels over 19", that is the max. It really all depends on style & offset, that plays a big role.

Some people like them, and some don't. And the world keeps spinning...

[MaximRecoil]

To me, the Ferrari & Challenger with the smaller wheels looks like it's riding on balloons.
On a Charger, personally I do not like wheels over 19", that is the max. It really all depends on style & offset, that plays a big role.

Some people like them, and some don't. And the world keeps spinning...

So you've spent all your life thinking that pretty much all the cars and trucks around you looked like they were riding on balloons, that is, until the past dozen years or so?

Note that many real race cars, representing the ultimate in car performance/handling, still have real sidewalls:

[bill440rt]

Ahh, another opinion debate to destroy yet another member's thread by endless back & forth bickering postings going nowhere.
Two of my Chargers ride on 15"s. Does that help you?

This is all a matter of opinion. The O.P. likes them. Clearly, you do not like them. Move on.
And the world keeps spinning...

[1974dodgecharger]

Ahh, another opinion debate to destroy yet another member's thread by endless back & forth bickering postings going nowhere.
Two of my Chargers ride on 15"s. Does that help you?

This is all a matter of opinion. The O.P. likes them. Clearly, you do not like them. Move on.
And the world keeps spinning...

oh I agree bill, but its always nice to have a healthy debate it breaks the monotony.  its funny rims/tires are the easest to change on cars, but yet the most criticised vs say a paint job.  I have 14inch magnums for a drifferent drive mood vs the 20s in the back.  YES its been lowered so the magnums look weird on them.......

[MaximRecoil]

Ahh, another opinion debate to destroy yet another member's thread by endless back & forth bickering postings going nowhere.
Two of my Chargers ride on 15"s. Does that help you?

This is all a matter of opinion. The O.P. likes them. Clearly, you do not like them. Move on.
And the world keeps spinning...

You can't have your cake and eat it too; i.e., you can't try to argue with me and try to take the "high road" at the same time. It takes two (or more) to argue.

This is all a matter of opinion. The O.P. likes them. Clearly, you do not like them. Move on.

If this were truly your rationale you never would have replied to my post with an opposing opinion. I suppose it is okay for you to argue against someone else's opinion, but if you receive a counterargument in return, well, that's just uncalled for. Is that about right?

[ws23rt]

Welcome

In your posted question you asked if the 22s will fit the charger.----And said you were making a show car.

There are two kinds of (fit the car) answers.

It looks like most of the answers you got were about how it would look. I think your mental image and the pics that came up answered that.

The other kind of fit is --Will they fit in the wheel wells?---Yes they will there is a good amount of room.

When you order the wheels you need to make sure of the important dimensions.  Such as wheel offset, width and finish diameter of the wheel tire combination.

You have a show car already and changing wheels is a simple task.  Take it to shows ---swap the wheels to save the show rubber and burn up some "balloon" tires on the way home

[bill440rt]

ws23rt, please note this thread was started back in 2008. 
Would you care for some cake, too? 

[ws23rt]

ws23rt, please note this thread was started back in 2008. 
Would you care for some cake, too? 

I noticed it as well    I was not speaking to Birkholm 

[1974dodgecharger]

i still think his car is pretty sweet.

http://www.bilgalleri.dk/galleri/storbilledevisning/88688-dodge_charger#/0

[myk]

Agreed.  Personally, I would've gone with 40's instead of 35's; maybe that isn't possible with the rim size he chose?

[1974dodgecharger]

Agreed.  Personally, I would've gone with 40's instead of 35's; maybe that isn't possible with the rim size he chose?

well see myk, I ordered 45s for my 20s at 295.  Based on readings peoples comments though BFG runs a little thinner than normal in width and height.

[myk]

Agreed.  Personally, I would've gone with 40's instead of 35's; maybe that isn't possible with the rim size he chose?

well see myk, I ordered 45s for my 20s at 295.  Based on readings peoples comments though BFG runs a little thinner than normal in width and height.

I meant to say that 40's would've been the minimum that I personally would've gone with, I'm sure the 45's will be excellent.  Hell, 245/45-18 is what I just went with.  I like modern touches to older cars but we have to have SOME sidewall IMO...