hooker super competition vs competition headers

[Silver R/T]

what is the difference between these two?

[tan top]

not sure but  i think i read somewhere that    one  of the differences  is thinner gauge steel  .. but i could be getting mixed up with something totally different   ......................

[derailed]

super comps are suppose to be a race header. They are suppose to be thinner and lighter and they have equal length tubes. Ive heard a few horror stories from some buddies running them in Pontiacs. I have not used them personally. I was looking into them but decided to go with Dougs.

[Mefirst]

I run the Super Competition headers on my Hemi. They are not the best quality headers, not even close to the high quality and fitment of the TTi headers.

[Blakcharger440]

what is the difference between these two?

I am pretty sure that the Super Comps are 2 inch primaries with 3.5 collector while the Comps are 1 7/8 inch primaries and 3 inch collector.
I just purchased a set of brand new ceramic coated Hooker Comps and they are 1 7/8.

[Silver R/T]

what is the difference between these two?

I am pretty sure that the Super Comps are 2 inch primaries with 3.5 collector while the Comps are 1 7/8 inch primaries and 3 inch collector.
I just purchased a set of brand new ceramic coated Hooker Comps and they are 1 7/8.

did you install them yet, how do they fit?

[4aThrill]

the super comps were on my 71 Charger 383 when I got it, man o man changing a spark plug or wire that was a nightmare  with them. dropped them about 3 yrs ago. they did get dented up pretty fast too if I recall right.  now with these other headers I have their not as bad to change anything 

[Blakcharger440]

what is the difference between these two?

I am pretty sure that the Super Comps are 2 inch primaries with 3.5 collector while the Comps are 1 7/8 inch primaries and 3 inch collector.
I just purchased a set of brand new ceramic coated Hooker Comps and they are 1 7/8.

did you install them yet, how do they fit?
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I am still waiting for my block to get back from the machine shop. When I install them I will definitely give a report as to how they fit. I have heard numerous times that TTI headers or exhaust arent a perferct fit either all the time.

[Silver R/T]

I run the Super Competition headers on my Hemi. They are not the best quality headers, not even close to the high quality and fitment of the TTi headers.

ya I know TTI's are the best but at $800+ I cant afford them right now. Hookers are pretty much next step down from them.

[Silver R/T]

super comps are suppose to be a race header. They are suppose to be thinner and lighter and they have equal length tubes. Ive heard a few horror stories from some buddies running them in Pontiacs. I have not used them personally. I was looking into them but decided to go with Dougs.

IVe heard theyre good header, where do you get them? I can get hooker comp headers c/coated on ebay

[Charger-Bodie]

I run the Super Competition headers on my Hemi. They are not the best quality headers, not even close to the high quality and fitment of the TTi headers.

ya I know TTI's are the best but at $800+ I cant afford them right now. Hookers are pretty much next step down from them.

Actually no.

Thorley headers would be the next choice, they are preety much the same as TTI's but cheaper. 

[Silver R/T]

and more expensive than hooker comps I presume? Where can I get them anyways, Summit, etc?

[Charger-Bodie]

and more expensive than hooker comps I presume? Where can I get them anyways, Summit, etc?

Probably more but not too bad IMO ! Heres a linky to summit:

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DTE%2D152&N=700+400265+4294908110+4294840062+115&autoview=sku

[Silver R/T]

I can get 1 7/8 tubed c/coated comp hookers for less than that. Ive bought set of hooker comps and sold it to my buddy long time ago when he really needed them. He hasn't had any problems with them ie installing, clearance issues. Only thing he didn't get is c/coating.

[Charger-Bodie]

I can get 1 7/8 tubed c/coated comp hookers for less than that. Ive bought set of hooker comps and sold it to my buddy long time ago when he really needed them. He hasn't had any problems with them ie installing, clearance issues. Only thing he didn't get is c/coating.

Yes and they have thin flanges and are more prone to leaking as a result......My suggetion at this point is for you to settle for the less expensive , less quality header and have fun with that.

[MSRacing89]

what is the difference between these two?

I am pretty sure that the Super Comps are 2 inch primaries with 3.5 collector while the Comps are 1 7/8 inch primaries and 3 inch collector.
I just purchased a set of brand new ceramic coated Hooker Comps and they are 1 7/8.

did you install them yet, how do they fit?

I can tell you my comps were a little tricky getting them in the Charger.  Got them in but you have to be creative.  Had to bend the drivers side collector as a whole towards the center of the car.  Passenger side collector was better but one down tube is currently resting the torsion bar.  Have not dinged it yet but that would be the only cure.  My advice, save your momma don't know money, and buy TTI's. 

[superduperbee]

I installed the Hooker Super Comp headers on my 71 Super Bee. A tight fit, had to dimple them for steering box clearance, and shift linkage clearance. The new ones have thicker flanges than my last set. I had them coated since the tubes are thinner than the regular headers.

[Silver R/T]

does it affect header fitment around torsion bars if your front end is low/high? Also with thinner flanges as long as you have good gaskets you should still be able to get a good seal, am I right?

[Finn]

damn...Ive got Hookers. Now I know.
oh well I'm still using them.

[Blakcharger440]

My new ceramic Hookers have thick flanges. I had a used pair of Thorleys on one of my old Roadrunners and they didnt fit very well at all.

[Silver R/T]

My new ceramic Hookers have thick flanges. I had a used pair of Thorleys on one of my old Roadrunners and they didnt fit very well at all.

I have bought two sets of hookers in past years and sold them. They looked like a quality product. Ive seen TTI's installed also and they both looked fine to me. Let me know how they fit once you install them.

[Mo Power]

Well I just hung new satin black Comp headers on my 72 Runner and well those are a pain to put on and I've noticed to that they hang real low to the ground. So your saying for Comp headers you need a 3 inch collector for what I got? Also I'm just running off just headers so I love it  .

[mally69]

super comps suck with fitment. I have a pair on my 69 and has a 440.

[firefighter3931]

The Comps work better with a straight plug head. For that matter so do the Supercomps. If you plan to upgrade to an angled plug head in the future (Edelbrock/Indy) just do yourself a favor and order a set of TTI's 


Ron

[oldschool]

The Comps work better with a straight plug head. For that matter so do the Supercomps. If you plan to upgrade to an angled plug head in the future (Edelbrock/Indy) just do yourself a favor and order a set of TTI's 


Ron
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i use tti's in all of my angle plug headed cars,they are super quality and fit like a glove.

[Silver R/T]

The Comps work better with a straight plug head. For that matter so do the Supercomps. If you plan to upgrade to an angled plug head in the future (Edelbrock/Indy) just do yourself a favor and order a set of TTI's 


Ron

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just run some stealth heads, they will work fine with hookers headers

[firefighter3931]

The Comps work better with a straight plug head. For that matter so do the Supercomps. If you plan to upgrade to an angled plug head in the future (Edelbrock/Indy) just do yourself a favor and order a set of TTI's 


Ron

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just run some stealth heads, they will work fine with hookers headers

Not necissarily. The stealth heads will work better than Indy/Edelbrock with the Hooker Comps/Supercomps because the plugs are straight...no debating that.

But, the Hooker headers are also wider in terms of fitment...which often causes interference with steering boxes, torsion bars etc...and they need to be bent to clear. TTI is by far a superior design....they hug the block and there is loads of clearance in the critical areas. The reality is that these 2 products are worlds apart. 

For those who allready have an angled plug head like myself....TTI is the clear choice. Plug changes will take 20 minutes instead of 2 hours....and no burned plugwires/boots to worry about. 


The Hooker design is 30 years old....long before angled plug heads were ever concieved. Hooker really needs to update that antiquated design 




Ron

[gordo1968charger]

the ceramic coating on my hookers is dogshit.fitting them was a bastard,changing the plugs is a bigger bastard and changing the starter motor was a much bigger bastard,etc.
they ve took more than one plug lead out as well,i had to get some little heat shield things to go on the plug end to stop them melting
when i have the cash stashed/salted away from the wife,i m getting some tti s to go with my 440 build.OH YES!!

[mikesbbody]

the ceramic coating on my hookers is dogshit.fitting them was a bastard,changing the plugs is a bigger bastard and changing the starter motor was a much bigger bastard,etc.
they ve took more than one plug lead out as well,i had to get some little heat shield things to go on the plug end to stop them melting
when i have the cash stashed/salted away from the wife,i m getting some tti s to go with my 440 build.OH YES!!

gordon, i just wanted to say you made me laugh with you description of hookers 

[Silver R/T]

the ceramic coating on my hookers is dogshit.fitting them was a bastard,changing the plugs is a bigger bastard and changing the starter motor was a much bigger bastard,etc.
they ve took more than one plug lead out as well,i had to get some little heat shield things to go on the plug end to stop them melting
when i have the cash stashed/salted away from the wife,i m getting some tti s to go with my 440 build.OH YES!!

what was wrong with ceramic coating on your headers? Did you purchase them directly from manufacturer or used? Was it peeling? I would think you would be able to exchange them if you were to buy them new from manufacturer/dealer under the warranty.

[gordo1968charger]

gone a bit rusty,got them new from year one,3 years ago.

[Silver R/T]

interesting. I bought a set off of ebay and coating was nice and thick on them. IM not sure how yours got rusty. I would think you should be able to exchange them for a better set if you bought from a reputable shop.

[Foreman72]

it appears to me that no one is even looking at hedman...perhaps its because they are trash, but i haven't really heard that from the people i've talked to.  they aren't crazy expensive by any means and i liked what i read, but who knows.  It seems that however the header pie gets sliced (unless its a slice of tti's ) that your going to be bound to have fitment issues and such...which ones are the most durable is what i'm wondering...

[Blakcharger440]

it appears to me that no one is even looking at hedman...perhaps its because they are trash, but i haven't really heard that from the people i've talked to.  they aren't crazy expensive by any means and i liked what i read, but who knows.  It seems that however the header pie gets sliced (unless its a slice of tti's ) that your going to be bound to have fitment issues and such...which ones are the most durable is what i'm wondering...

Even TTI's have their problems..take a look on the "other" mopar board for a good read. The ceramic coating on my Hookers looks really good. A friend of mine had a set of Hooker 1 7/8 ceramics on his 493 and the coating held up good at the 3 yr mark when he sold the car and I wonder if they are still looking good.

[Silver R/T]

it appears to me that no one is even looking at hedman...perhaps its because they are trash, but i haven't really heard that from the people i've talked to.  they aren't crazy expensive by any means and i liked what i read, but who knows.  It seems that however the header pie gets sliced (unless its a slice of tti's ) that your going to be bound to have fitment issues and such...which ones are the most durable is what i'm wondering...

Even TTI's have their problems..take a look on the "other" mopar board for a good read. The ceramic coating on my Hookers looks really good. A friend of mine had a set of Hooker 1 7/8 ceramics on his 493 and the coating held up good at the 3 yr mark when he sold the car and I wonder if they are still looking good.

ceramic coating should be fine for years to come as long as you don't dyno your engine or break it in with c/c coated headers on there.

[mally69]

Once again Ill mention how much I hate my super comps. I just got my engine put back together and I have one heck of a time getting gaskets to seal up. I am now trying to layer gaskets together to try and get them to seal. Its just mine for some reason are not flush on the gasket side and are very hard to get to seal up. But that is my set, another set could be perfect for all i know    I am going to try 2 Mr. gaskets ultra seal gaskets  on the one side to try and seal things up.

[Runner]

Once again Ill mention how much I hate my super comps. I just got my engine put back together and I have one heck of a time getting gaskets to seal up. I am now trying to layer gaskets together to try and get them to seal. Its just mine for some reason are not flush on the gasket side and are very hard to get to seal up. But that is my set, another set could be perfect for all i know    I am going to try 2 Mr. gaskets ultra seal gaskets  on the one side to try and seal things up.

  have you tried a set of percy seal for good gaskets?  they work great for me. 

[Charger-Bodie]

Once again Ill mention how much I hate my super comps. I just got my engine put back together and I have one heck of a time getting gaskets to seal up. I am now trying to layer gaskets together to try and get them to seal. Its just mine for some reason are not flush on the gasket side and are very hard to get to seal up. But that is my set, another set could be perfect for all i know    I am going to try 2 Mr. gaskets ultra seal gaskets  on the one side to try and seal things up.

  have you tried a set of percy seal for good gaskets?  they work great for me. 

  I also use them and they work great!!