eBay sellers cannot leave you negatives no longer... Interesting news...

[Silver R/T]

I bought a part from a guy long time ago. He gave me his paypal to which Ive sent money, paypal account was non-existent so I withdrew money back from that email/account back to my account. Guy then said that I never paid him and left me a negative. In this case I didn't deserve negative and guy was new to ebay so he didn't know how to handle situation.

[General_01]

rav440, that's great that you give good, honest descriptions on the stuff you sell. You say that if someone leaves you a negative, it would have been done out of spite. Maybe so. But you seem to have the mentality that if you say you give good service, then that is that. It is the buyer who rates your service, and the buyer cannot do that if they are threatened with a retaliatory feedback. I am also not saying all buyers are great people either. That is why I said Ebay should have come up with a better arbitration system before not allowing sellers to give feedback to buyers. But if I look at buying from you or any other seller, I am better informed if I can look at freely given feedback then at quid pro quo feedback.

I also know that retaliatory feedback is against Ebay rules, but I think you know as well as I that it is an unwritten rule that that is what will happen. You just said you would give it to a buyer if they gave it to you, regardless of circumstances.

[rav440]

rav440, that's great that you give good, honest descriptions on the stuff you sell. You say that if someone leaves you a negative, it would have been done out of spite. Maybe so. But you seem to have the mentality that if you say you give good service, then that is that. It is the buyer who rates your service, and the buyer cannot do that if they are threatened with a retaliatory feedback. I am also not saying all buyers are great people either. That is why I said Ebay should have come up with a better arbitration system before not allowing sellers to give feedback to buyers. But if I look at buying from you or any other seller, I am better informed if I can look at freely given feedback then at quid pro quo feedback.

I also know that retaliatory feedback is against Ebay rules, but I think you know as well as I that it is an unwritten rule that that is what will happen. You just said you would give it to a buyer if they gave it to you, regardless of circumstances.

no and no , i did not say that .please do not put words in my mouth i never said i would leave " retaliatory feedback "  .  what i said was , that i would do everything in my power to keep it from getting to that point . but as i also said I  WILL NOT PLAY GAMES . i dont want negitive feedback anymore than i want to give somebody negitive feedback .

as i said i describe and photograph items more than the average seller to take the guess work out of the deal & i dont hide flaws on an item like some sellers do .  when i package an item it could be dropped from a tall building and survive plus i insure it and get delivery confomation just to cover the bases even more plus i try like hell to get the item shipped with in the same day or the next day .

in other words i want the buyer to be more than happy . no body like bad service or hidden flaws .

but its all regaurdless no because SELLERS cant give negitive feedback .

Posted by: Dave22443

Rav440,

  I have no doubt that you are an honest and trustworthy seller on eBay.  But as we "buyers only" have been accused of having many a bad lot among us, so it is to be said about sellers.  Its a two-way street

i not acciusing any buyers , hell i LUV buyers !!!! if it wernt for buyers how could i sell stuff  but now its not a two way street anymore saddly .  i just hope all of my future buyers are as honest and great as my past buyers . but i have a felling that there are going to be a few that try to threaten negitive feedback to get a freebie . 

[gtx6970]

Do you think this is unfair to sellers?

In a MAJOR way

[Big Lebowski]

  Well at least I'm back to 100% sqeaky clean again.

[superduperbee]

The new rules make non paying bidders an even bigger problem than they were before. The only negative feedback I had in 7 years was from non paying bidders who left it in retaliation for me reporting them to ebay for not paying. Since the new rules,  I'm only a buyer on ebay, finished with selling there. If the all paypal all the time comes to the US like Australia, I will be done buying there as well and just close up my account. We all need to band together and decide on one alternitave auction site to support. We could generate enough traffic there and get by with out ebay. I did my first swap meet in 8 years and it went well.

[milner]

It'll be nice to see the day when another company can rival ebay & be a true competitor with the same volume. I'll go there no matter what, just like I jumped ship on Time Warner with cable TV when I bought a satellite dish. Ebay has grown into an arrogant & untouchable company, buying up & suing like wildfire.

Last week I sent an email asking why "I had to offer paypal" as a seller in order to list my item. I never had to do this before, & have 100% positive feedback going back several years as a buyer & seller. I saw another auction where a seller had absolutely no feedback with a similarly priced item, & did not have paypal as an option.

So far, I got 2 computer generated responses telling me they got my question & that as a highly valued ebay member, they will handle it since I am so special to them. I just got a third email telling me that they forwarded my question to paypal, but that I should contact paypal for a quicker response. I sent a reply telling them my question had nothing to do with a paypal account & to go back & read it.

Now several more days will go by without an answer, but at least I'll hear from ebay's computer that loves me so it's not a total loss.

how hard would it be to build an auction site to rival ebay?