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OneofNoneRT..Update: Found Certicard and Owner 1968! BITD..Pics Rescanned

Started by OneofNoneRT, May 08, 2008, 10:42:35 PM

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OneofNoneRT

Yeah.. I cannot describe it.. It seems to be moving so fast right now I am having trouble putting the pieces together.. I just got off the phone with mike ( who is actually in New Jersey) a little bit ago and the Kuwait connection is actually his Nephew who when he found out contacted his mom who lives in
cookeville and sent me the photo I posted earlier..Mike is great :2thumbs: he sent me 15  or so pics. that are pics of pics until he get some scanned, They are pretty poor quality but I will post a couple and will post more when we can get some digitized. Back in the day photos are the best!  :coolgleamA:
Quote from: 69*F5*SE on August 21, 2009, 03:50:59 PM
That is so wild and majorly cool about giving up pictures etc..  I wish I new the history of my Charger.  Sometime this weekend I'm going to drive by the address from your certicard just for the hell of it and see what house it is as I know that area very well.   Ted
I googled it and its a big house on the corner looks like 2 good size garages.. anyway terry had moved that may of been his folks place.

Anyone go/went to school in Utica Mich? (Stephenson) In 1968 auto shop class put headers on this car for the Kid who owned it, 1968 Alumni May remember a brand new baby Blue charger with a sunroof and Headers! How many could they have been in the school parking lot?

Guys you ever feel like your preparing for homecoming, Got everyone cheering for you, and you hope you dont let everyone down?
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

Ghoste


OneofNoneRT

1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

OneofNoneRT

Mike said The last 2 pics were from the last day of school and his auto shop teacher was taking photos of the students as they did burnouts as they left school! could you Imagine that today. They would BBQ him!
Here is another, look at the traffic!
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

Finn

1968 Dodge Charger 440, EFI, AirRide suspension
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1963 Plymouth Savoy 225 with a 3 on the tree.
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2014 Dodge Dart 2.4L

The70RT

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Bulldog69RT

 :popcrn: Thats too cool man! The guy who I bought my 69 RT from told me stories of my charger that got passed down from the origional owner. A little story of... The owner was at a bar and a 69 GTO Judge bet him his car was faster, and they raced 3 times, my Charger beat him all three and on the third race the GTO just kept driving and didnt come back!  :lol: haha. I wish I could find the origional owner like you did! Sounded like a cool guy!
'69 Charger R/T. Restoration in progress...

rav440

1973 PLYMOUTH road runner GTX



tan top

theses are awesome  pictures  :yesnod: :dance:   what a find !! love stuff like this  :yesnod:  .................. :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Tom Q

Let me try to educate some of the experts here.  :nana:

It was reported the 2nd owner bought the car USED in  MI  with 6,000 miles and the first owner was a Chrysler Executive's kid.


In 1968 if you were even born yet, an executive could order a car and have it optioned the way he wanted it. So if he wanted a hemi in his 1968 coronet station wagon it would be added immediately after the car was built at the special shop Chrysler operated at it's manufacturing facility or nearby where all sorts of cool stuff was done to new cars for the execs and others high on the food chain. After they tired of the car it was auctioned off and usually ended up within 200 miles of the motor city.  Where did Steve Juliano find the missing RTS cars....within 200 miles of the motor city....Doh!

So a reasonable conclusion after looking at the pics is the sun roof was added at the factory shops. That is factory enough for me and should be factory enough for the rest of you experts.  That install is very professional and looks awful close to assembly line type sunroofs.  The welded brackets, the slightly different position of  the sunroof and the painted roof make sense   since it was done after the car was assembled on the assembly line.

OneofNoneRT

 :o :o :o.. uh... speechless.. When I get to my other computer I will post a few more of the Sunroof installation pics..
:o :o :o
Maybe too nosy but were you " in the know" back then??
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

Ghoste

I'll be the first to say that I'm not an expert but since I was alive back in 1968 I will also add that I have seen so many boogered up cars over the years that somebody somewhere was absolutely positive was the real deal that I have become skeptical about a lot of things until they are proven.  This one seems to be proving out and I think thats great.  I will still need to be convinced at the next "one of none" that comes along. :nana:

tttaziz

Let me add a couple of things as a Chrysler Executive's kid back in the day.  As an executive's kid you would get a company/lease car that you could order equipped as you liked.  Generally, this meant on the standard order form.  These were company cars, which meant you had to turn them back in to Chrysler and Chrysler would auction or sell them off the executive lot. You would not put headers on a company car and you certainly wouldn't trade it in for a Corvette. 

My guess on this car, given the second owner's story, is that it was a Chrysler supplier executive's kid.  Supplier executives would BUY their cars (at a good price), and trade them frequently.  It was not unusual for dad to have a Cadillac, mom a Town & Country, and the kid a Mustang.  Dad would then drive the right car to a respective meeting. This kid could have put headers on his car and traded it in on a Corvette.  His dad would have been able to go over to ASC and have a sunroof installed.  However, the sunroofs ASC was installing in 1967-8-9 Ford products and earliest MoPar were power.

My question is why, if it was traded with 6,000 miles,  does the car have a scheduled build date of April 26, 1968 (and a serial number that puts it in that time frame) and a Certicard date for the second owner of May 20, 1968?
 

tan top

Quote from: Tom Q on August 23, 2009, 09:07:34 PM
Let me try to educate some of the experts here.  :nana:

It was reported the 2nd owner bought the car USED in  MI  with 6,000 miles and the first owner was a Chrysler Executive's kid.


In 1968 if you were even born yet, an executive could order a car and have it optioned the way he wanted it. So if he wanted a hemi in his 1968 coronet station wagon it would be added immediately after the car was built at the special shop Chrysler operated at it's manufacturing facility or nearby where all sorts of cool stuff was done to new cars for the execs and others high on the food chain. After they tired of the car it was auctioned off and usually ended up within 200 miles of the motor city.  Where did Steve Juliano find the missing RTS cars....within 200 miles of the motor city....Doh!

So a reasonable conclusion after looking at the pics is the sun roof was added at the factory shops. That is factory enough for me and should be factory enough for the rest of you experts.  That install is very professional and looks awful close to assembly line type sunroofs.  The welded brackets, the slightly different position of  the sunroof and the painted roof make sense   since it was done after the car was assembled on the assembly line.
this isintresting info ! thanks for sharing this  :popcrn:


Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

The70RT

Just change your screen name to one of one and be done!!  Just hand out Kleenex to the critics. You have the proof....they don't. Actually who cares what some think anyway. Some will always be sceptics even if you had showroom pics from 68  :eyes:
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OneofNoneRT

I agree there is Alot more to this story.. 6,000 miles in 30 days?? Salesman said " Kid traded on a vette" is not exactly what you would go to the bank with..  If and as I find out more I will share.. Here is a couple more pics of the install..
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

chargergirl

Love a car with a story! It will prove itself one way or the other...this is exciting! I am in love with the 1 of none cars that a friend of ours has. It was made ONLY to be photographed for magazines etc. Yes it is a certified, verified, 1 of none, and was written up...I believe in Mopar Muscle. I want that car but there is no way I could even afford to do it justice...if I win the lottery it would be the first thing I would buy...while I was building the garage to place it in. Keep the faith...this will prove out.
Trust your Woobie!

OneofNoneRT

Here is some info I recieved PM from a very reliable source..

"remembering back when I bought my 71 Challenger, Dad took me to the Linch Rd Lot, and we picked out our cars that were considered "Demo's." Exec cars that had been driven only a few thousand miles or so. Mine wasn't quite a year old, with 1,700 miles on it. Because I got Dads discount, the car had to remain in his name for 6 months, then he transfered it over.  when my title came in, it read....... "Original Owner.." Dad explained, that Because as long as it was in the possesion of an employee, it was not considered "owned Yet." I got a new car warranty with it when I bought it. Which was in my name! That might explain why Terry's name is on the CertiCard. He was prob. considerd the original owner. I financed mine through Chrysler Credit. This Kid could have bought it the same way, with a few thousand miles on it, he bought it and added a few more miles, not much if he only had it 30 days. It could have been in his dads name. They traded it at the chevy dealer. Terry could have bought it immediately and because it was still under a new car warranty they just transfered the title over to him, because he wasnt an employee of chrysler  he was considered the 1st original owner. May not mean anything to this situation. But if he wasn't the original, the certicard would have been listed in the original owners name and then transfered down into Terrys name. But I remember Dad explaining all of this to me at the time...... Funny how all this comes back to you when you try to dig it up. I know that to be a fact about the original owner thing. Until the car is actually purchased by what Chrysler considered a non employee, the car was still listed as brand new..."

If you dispute anything Please be nice!!   :yesnod:


And  some rescanned pics..
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

OneofNoneRT

More... ;)
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

OneofNoneRT

1more.. :coolgleamA:
1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

moparstuart

  dude thats some very cool  day 2 documentation  , Awesome pictures   :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

tan top

Quote from: moparstuart on August 25, 2009, 04:49:41 PM
  dude thats some very cool  day 2 documentation  , Awesome pictures   :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

this is awesome  !! love the back in the day pictures  :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Ghoste

The one you titled 5backindaydrag doesn't look like it has a sunroof in it??  Lighting and angle maybe? :shruggy:
Love that color and the white interior.

OneofNoneRT

1968 R/T 440/4 Spd (Prototype Factory Sunroof)
2008 R/T 5.7l HEMI (Road & Track)

Ghoste

 :lol: Well, I'm sure he didn't drive with open all the time.  I like the pic with the aftermarket steering wheel, pistol grip shifter and 8 track cartridge hanging out of the player.  Very typical of the era isn't it.