Are the 67's in any kind of demand for project resell?

[oldcarnut]

It's probably a little to early to ask but I'm going to look at a 67 383 4spd Charger in the morning thats for sale locally.  Supposedly theres about a 1000 miles or so on a rebuild and it gets cranked up on occasion and run--not driven.   Been sitting a while.   Don't know about the rust condition but was told it didn't have a lot but some on the doors.  Other than that I don't know much about it until I look at it. Could be a rot box-who knows  .  If I can get some pics I'll post it.  The guy told a friend of mine he wanted a $1000 for it.  If I get it, it's only for me to clean, repair, etc. and maybe resell it to make a few dollars to help fund my Superbird clone.  A co-worker has a 440-6 engine complete from breather to tranny for $1500 I'm going to get and thought maybe I might could make enough or at least put a dent in it to pay for it.  The question for me is, is there much demand for the 67's?  I don't see too many people asking to buy them or even on evil bay getting much bidding activity on the decent ones.  I like them ok but what do ya think?  Without pics or better info. its hard to say but thought maybe I could get a better idea of desireability.  I'm no flipper by any means but if the possibility exists to help fund my project by even just a little bit I'd like to give it a shot.

[kab69440]

I'd hand over 1k for any running, titled first gen without thinking twice. And a 4-gear car, to boot? Point me at the seller! I love them, and hope to have a whole one someday, instead of just the interior parts shoe-horned into my '69. If only the doors have significant rust, that's great news. I have a beautiful set of skins in the basement.  Someday maybe I'll be the guy that comes across a screaming deal like that! Some folks have all the luck!

[Finn]

A charger is a charger. If that particular year isn't popular now, it will be. Look at the 4th gens. Shoot if you go far enough back the demand for the 2nd gens wasn't all that much, now its getting hard to find a decent priced project that isn't rusted to hell.
I think your profit is going to be determined on what you do to it and how fast you plan to flip it. If you pick it up now, fix it quick, and put it up for sale right away, you might not get as much as you would if you waited to sell it.

Personally, when I was looking at one (see post pics of your car thread) it didn't catch right away but when I started looking at the pictures of it again, it really grew on me. If I have the extra cash/time I would love to track it down and restore it one day.


Edit: it should be noted that I have run into a number of cars I would like to restore in the future, that charger, the barracuda posted with it, and...dare I say it...a red on red 67 327 camaro that has been sitting in a driveway of my block since before I was born. Almost was my first car...lord knows I would have saved a ton on restoration and been driving it already had I not found my 68 charger sitting in the dirt.
I regret nothing though 

[Charger_Fan]

If I can get some pics I'll post it.  

[Musicman]

For $1000 I wouldn't expect much     Chances are it would cost more to fix it up than your going to get out of it as a flipper. 1st Gens are like any other vehicle of that era... If you put time, money and imagination into them, you'll have a car that's truely unique, and that's worth something. Unfortunately, when you reach this point, chances are you won't want to part with it.

I know the fella that owns the Black 66 below... As you can see it's a real sharp car that would fetch a tidy sum, but I can also tell you that he would never sell it... nor would I sell my Red Charger pictured below it. Mine is still a work in progress, but when I'm done there'll be no For Sale signs hanging on it.

[Goodz]

Mmmm, pics.   

[41husk]

I would agree, if it runs and has the interior complete, you can't loose money on that car!

[oldcarnut]

Looked at it this morn and heres some pics

[oldcarnut]

more

[oldcarnut]

couple more. 

[Brock Samson]

  first gens sure are tempting...
i got a real soft spot for them... 
   

[Goodz]

i'm no expert, but that doesnt look half bad! 

[B5 Charger]

Where is it and I'll go buy it.   

[TeeWJay426]

I'd grab it for a grand.... but then again, I probably wouldn't be flipping it either- a 67 4 speed 383 car would be a worthy addition to any first gen lover's fleet!

[oldcarnut]

As you can see there is more than just a little rust.  He said it would crank up and run and that he had rebuilt it about 1500 miles ago.  Floor pans either have some holes or sheet metal patches in it.  Doors, fenders, qtrs all need work/replacing.  Roof looked solid.  Electrically worked for the most part and the headlight doors were disconnected but complete. The car is worth the money especially for someone needing parts etc. as there is more that is avail. to go with it but I think it needs too much time to invest in it verses to make a little profit. Haven't decided what to do yet since I already have more on my plate than I can eat that needs taken care of first and don't really want to sit on it for a long time to do what would be needed to make it worthwhile storing somewhere and selling.     Gotta think it over some.  Got more pics if someone wants more body detail.

[Khyron]

buy it only if you can keep the vice grips 

[Brock Samson]

    submitted for your concideration.. two 383 four speed cars..

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,19981.0.html

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,18958.0.html

[oldcarnut]

buy it only if you can keep the vice grips 

Those aren't vice grips.  They're extended battery post connectors when the leads all gone    It did turn over but not fast enough to crank it up.

[Brock Samson]

i figgure if you have room for her,.. snap her up,.. seems like alot of the hard to find items are there,.. and if not flipped outright,.. parting out the good stuff, might bring in a enuff to make it worthwhile...
i don't care for the color but restored i bet she's be a real looker...

[The Kid]

It's a little rough but for a $1k I'd definitely buy it.

I LOVE that black '66 !

[69charger2002]

i know i'd buy it for 1000
trav

[Charger1973]

Hell id even buy that one and I dont want another project.  Some deals are too good to pass up. 

[TheGhost]

Hell id even buy that one and I dont want another project.  Some deals are too good to pass up. 

I agree.  I'd don't have the money, or the room right now, but if I found that locally, I'd probably run to the bank.  Or, at the very least, give the contact info to someone else.  That car deserves to be saved.

[Chatt69chgr]

You can't go wrong for a thousand.  If you don't want it, buy it and resell it to someone who will save it.

[66chargerkid]

I bought mine 4 2 grand in pieces but But its rust free. You can't rebuild a 383 for 1000 dollars now a days. Those gauges and the motor alone make the car worth more then a grand I would say BUY IT!
Deals like that on any old mopar is nearly unheard of. The rusty old a body's with slant 6's are now going for around 1000.

[tan top]

buy it    buy it buy it buy it     looks a great deal to me 

[Musicman]

I must admit... there's a lot more there than I ever would have expected for $1000     That's a keeper there... buy it 

Just don't go parting the thing out     Clean it up and sell it again if you have to, you'll get your money back and more. If you do sell it, make sure it goes to someone who is going to take care of it and fix it up right.

[kab69440]

Where are you, oldcarnut, and how far from Central Ohio is this car? I want it and have most of the major stuff to fix it already stashed. I can't believe you are even THINKING about passing that up!

[Ghoste]

If you don't buy it, better pass the info to someone like kab because this seems like one of those scenarios where the poor car gets crushed.

[Boy Racer]

You know there were fewer than 16,000 made in '67, right? They're not making any more of 'em, either.

I don't have the trailer to go get it, the room to store it, or the time to restore it (right now), but I'd be falling all over myself to get $1000 to that guy as quickly as I could.

[Musicman]

You know there were fewer than 16,000 made in '67, right? They're not making any more of 'em, either.

Yup... 15,788... and only (117 Hemis, and 660 440s)

[oldcarnut]

Ok so I went out today and bought it.  Tommorrow I'll get a rollback and take it to friends house not to far from there and store it for a few weeks at his farm until I can get caught up with other things here at home. The last two of my three kids are graduating from college in early May and will free me up. Plans will be to ck it out, clean it up some, get it running, etc. and then list it on maybe ebay.  I'll list it for what I'll have into it and let it go from there--guessing starting $1100 after title, fees, etc.  Would be nice to have someone get it to restore or use to restore one they have. Some were probably right as it may have been eventually turned in for scrap metal value although several people had inquiured about buying it. It never had a for sale on it.  He gave me a bunch of extra 66-67? spare parts.  Filled up the back of my truck and the trunk of the Charger.  Trim, grill stuff, interior, wiring, dash, engine parts, 66 block, etc.  I'm not sure where all of fits but it was stuff he said he had from owning several of those Chargers I will be getting rid of all that too separately plus more stuff I have been storing in the garage to sell or trade for some stuff I can use on the 70 RR I bought for the Superbird clone.  I'm not into the parts or car selling for a business but I'm just someone who likes the hobby and will use the Charger and probably the Challenger to help pay towards the Janak kit on order and other stuff for it. I have probably given more stuff away to guys who needed it to restore their cars than I have ever sold even for cheap but I can't afford to do that anymore.  Last few times I gave some parts to people that said they really needed it for their cars then they turned around and sold it for a couple hundred or more dollars  .  Thanks for all the inputs.  I was teetering on the fence until the wife said to just go ahead and get it and don't worry about it.  It's great to have such a cooperative wife. I live in SC.

[moparstuart]

 awesome good luck       

[66chargerkid]

^that man right there wants to buy all your white interior stuff and other random parts you may have =)

[moparstuart]

^that man right there wants to buy all your white interior stuff and other random parts you may have =)

NOTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[66chargerkid]

Sure you do =)

[Blown70]

I spy a chally sitting in front of that truck.....

[oldcarnut]

I spy a chally sitting in front of that truck.....

Its a 70 T/A wannabee but with a 318 276 gear.  It's a nice car and a main source of transportation for us.  Gets about 18.5 mpg on the road just a little less than the Avalanche but a whole lot more fun to drive. Always gets the "I wouldn't..." comments about driving it all the time but I'm not one for leaving it in the garage to look at.  We're gonna miss it when it's gone    in a couple months or so.

[Goodz]

Congrartz on the buy!  Best of luck!

[The Kid]

I spy a chally sitting in front of that truck.....

Gets about 18.5 mpg on the road just a little less than the Avalanche

Nice looking Chally and nice score on the '67!

What do you get for mileage in the Avalanche? Our Hemi Ram 1500 can barely manage 14 on a good day .

[oldcarnut]

Nice looking Chally and nice score on the '67!

What do you get for mileage in the Avalanche? Our Hemi Ram 1500 can barely manage 14 on a good day .

Its an 04 with 51K. Had it since new
According to the dash readout average
75-85mph 16-17mpg
At 70-75mph 17.5-19
60-70mph 19-20.5
Rarely has gotten less than 17 around town.  Worst was around 15
Pulling a loaded car trailer 10-12
I've been real happy with it.  Sometimes feels a little lacking in power but mpg will vary some depending on the gas quality and road elevations but on avg. on relatively non-hilly roads thats about it.
My dad's Hemi Ram 1500 also gets worse milage than his Chevy but he likes the Dodge better.  If Dodge had come out with something closer to the Avalanche instead of the Durango I would probably have bought it.  The last new Dodge truck I bought was the Ramcharger in 86.
I'm spending more time when possible riding my Kawasaki KLR650 since gas has gone up so.  It's hard to beat that 50mpg.

[Ghoste]

But this man could use white interior parts if they're better than what I have in the car now. 

[oldcarnut]

If anyone wants any particular pics or see if something came with the extra parts feel free to shoot me an email and I'll check in the pile.
oldcarnut@comcast.net
David

[Finn]

Ive got a 2002 ram 1500 with the 5.9 (gas not diesel)...computer average says 10.7 mpg 
Best I ever saw on the "instant average" or w/e its called was 17 mpg for about 15 minutes...then came a stretch of road that wasnt downhill.

I love that truck though..

[oldcarnut]

Need some help with a VIN search. The VIN on the car @ bill of sale was XP29H72159143
The ViN on the owners Cert. and reg. he gave with it was XP29H72268264
I don't think there is anything up and I hope he just gave me the wrong papers but if anyone here has access to check them out could you let me know if they are registered to the same guy.  Thanks.

[Musicman]

You will find a Vin Decoder and a Fender Tag Decoder for 66-67 at : http://dodgecharger.org/html/software.html

[Ghoste]

Not much to check out, the two vins are different.  You need to look on the drivers door jamb and verify what is on there and then find out what paperwork you have.

[oldcarnut]

Thanks and it's good source of info. but what I need to know if they come up as the same owner in the DMV or stolen, etc.  The decoder lists both cars the same 383-4bl etc. and maybe I can break it down into prod. numbers for the 4speed when I sell it.  The vin tag for this was in the front door jamb.  I thought they were all on the dash top.  Is that the right place for it? I don't remember seeing the fender tag although I was too concerned about other things at the time especially after the guy slammed the hood shut on my fingers and bloodied them up a bit.  I'll try to see if I can get one of the cops on patrol at the plant to run it for me tonight.  Making the deal on this car was easy but wow, getting it from the place and registered has turned into something else.  Thanks for the reply and link.
David

lol--I guess you beat me to it while I was replying
XP29H72159143  was what I wrote from the door jamb plate

[Ghoste]

Door jamb is correct for 67, they didn't move to the dash top until 68.