Alternative sound deading material, FYI.

[Back N Black]

This is what i used to cover the floor in my charger, it is easy to apply and conforms to the floor really well. It is 12x12 square .70 mils (1/16") thick sound deading material. Peel of plastic and apply.

[Back N Black]

Its called Pro- Form and there are 10 sheets of 12x12 per box.$ 30 per box

[BROCK]

Cool!  How much does a box weigh?  How many boxes did it take?  Are they found at Home Depot?

[dkn1997]

google...it's a magical place   

http://www.proformproducts.com/en/products/detail/?id=60

[694spdRT]

Looks like some decent stuff. Did you have to heat it up to fit the contours of the floorboards?

[bill440rt]

That type of sound deadener looks like a replacement for sound deadener in modern cars. For example, trunk wells, floors, inside door skins, etc.
I was looking into that kind myself. There are other manufacturers that offer it, & it also comes in large, wide rolls.

It's probably not as good as Dynamat or Hush-Mat, but waaaay better than having nothing at all. And, it's a lot less expensive.

[Back N Black]

That type of sound deadener looks like a replacement for sound deadener in modern cars. For example, trunk wells, floors, inside door skins, etc.
I was looking into that kind myself. There are other manufacturers that offer it, & it also comes in large, wide rolls.

It's probably not as good as Dynamat or Hush-Mat, but waaaay better than having nothing at all. And, it's a lot less expensive.

Bill you are right on all accounts. I did not want to spend a small fortune on Dynamat and i think it will work just fine.

Looks like some decent stuff. Did you have to heat it up to fit the contours of the floorboards?

i did not have to heat it up to fit the contours of the floor, i just used a small roller to get it into the nooks and crannies of the floor boards. I made a roller wheel out of a seat spacer, that fit the grooves in the floor pan perfectly.

[41husk]

were do you purchase it, and how much did it take to cover the floor?

[PocketThunder]

Looks like a nice product.  I used edead from elemental designs.  I put that stuff everywhere and the doors shut with a nice "click"... 

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,10796.msg146399.html#msg146399

[Shakey]

This is what i used to cover the floor in my charger, it is easy to apply and conforms to the floor really well. It is 12x12 square .70 mils (1/16") thick sound deading material. Peel of plastic and apply.

The work you've done on the underdash components looks great!   

[Back N Black]

were do you purchase it, and how much did it take to cover the floor?

I bought it at Auto Machinery and i used 4 boxes. It covered from the firewall all the way to the back seat area. It cost me $120 plus tax.

[41husk]

Thanks!

[Goodz]

So what is the sound difference in the car?  Have you started it up yet to see the difference?  Is it really worth doing?

[Finn]

^what he said 

[Back N Black]

^what he said 

Engine is still on the engine stand. I will let you know when i fire it up.

[rusty lee]

cool thanks for the info. always looking for new ideas that don't cost alot.

[4speed]

good idea thanks 

[PocketThunder]

^what he said 

Engine is still on the engine stand. I will let you know when i fire it up.

What was the end result with the engine in and running?

Paul

Sorry about the old thread but like a girlfriend of several years, i need some closure! 

[Back N Black]

I think it works really well compared to the stock insulation, but i do not know how it compares to other aftermarket sound deading material like Dynomat etc...

[E5 Charger]

I just found another alternative. http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-thermocoustic-material.html
Looks like Dynamat, but cheaper.

[MORFF]

I LIKE THIS EASTWOOD idea does anybody know how many boxes for a 69 Charger I have to do everything have nothing installed at all for sound and heat.

[NHCharger]

I just bought the Eastwood stuff for my Charger. I measured it up and it takes 1 1/2 boxes, so I bought three boxes to do both my Chargers. I'm more interested in the heat resistant aspect than the road noise. The floor boards and fire wall get real hot with the headers and dual exhaust on my 71.
I should be installing it in my 71 within two weeks. If you can wait that long I can tell you if I measured right or not.

[MORFF]

Thanks yea Its going to be at least that my body  guy has to weld in the driver floor panel  then i am going to clean and caulk and prime seams get the interior done in primer. Then he is going to take it to outside body work. So I am looking at maybe nov tell i put it in but i like to try to stay one step ahead to know what i can use that is good that does not break the bank.

[NHCharger]

OK, well that was a long two weeks putting the car back together is taking 10 times longer than taking it apart.
Anyway I used exactly 1 1/2 boxes of the Eastwood material. If you do the trunk you will use two full boxes and will still be short by a sheet or two. I figured 4 hours, took nearly 8, I was probably way to picky since this is being covered over. The stuff installs fairly easy. I used 15lb. felt paper to make templates since there is hardly a straight or flat area on the floor. Cuts easily with a utility knife.
The directions say to wear gloves since the edges of the foil will be sharp once you cut it, I thought, gloves are for pussies. I sliced the tip of my middle finger open in the last hour of this and bled all over the place
Below are some pics of the finished product. I used two tools. One is my laminate roller. The other is a homemade roller I had to make to get the material into all the creases and corners. I used that one 90% of the time.

[ODZKing]

Nice jobs.  I like the home made roller.  I could have used it when I did mine.
I used a material exactly like the DynaMat material I've seen at shows. Except it was $16.00 a roll at Home Depot and one foot wide - Duct Wrap.  Looks very similar to yours.  Foil on one side, sticky on the other ... worked great and what a difference it made.  Pictures here:
http://www.retrorarities.com/FloorPans/index.html

[jpsycoboy5]

Nice jobs.  I like the home made roller.  I could have used it when I did mine.
I used a material exactly like the DynaMat material I've seen at shows. Except it was $16.00 a roll at Home Depot and one foot wide - Duct Wrap.  Looks very similar to yours.  Foil on one side, sticky on the other ... worked great and what a difference it made.  Pictures here:
http://www.retrorarities.com/FloorPans/index.html

Did you layer it or is that alll one layer?

[ODZKing]

Did you layer it or is that alll one layer?

All one layer.  And I noticed that the foil edges would curl easily so I used foil tape on the seams.  It runs from front to back and you can see the tape seams.  Worked great!!
The entire interior cost around $45.00.  Materials I used are in the pictures (not including the blades and blood - LOL!)

[HANDM]

Did you layer it or is that alll one layer?

All one layer.  And I noticed that the foil edges would curl easily so I used foil tape on the seams.  It runs from front to back and you can see the tape seams.  Worked great!!
The entire interior cost around $45.00.  Materials I used are in the pictures (not including the blades and blood - LOL!)

I'm on it!
Gonna go to big orange today and pick me up some Frost King and tape and get on it
Thanks for the great cheaper alternative 

[MORFF]

Nice job I am defenitly going eastwood. I got tired of waiting on body guy so i have to wait another couple weeks and me and my father-in-law are going to weld panels my self then i can put the eastwood in nice job man. tks for posting pics.

[69bronzeT5]

Did you layer it or is that alll one layer?

All one layer.  And I noticed that the foil edges would curl easily so I used foil tape on the seams.  It runs from front to back and you can see the tape seams.  Worked great!!
The entire interior cost around $45.00.  Materials I used are in the pictures (not including the blades and blood - LOL!)

How well does it keep heat and sound out? Especially heat?

[ODZKing]

Well, my wife each trip would put her cold water on the floor in a bag leaning near the hump.  After about an hour or so she'd say the ice had all melted and it was warm. Undrinkable, warmer than outside temp-warm. 
She has done that several times this year and the ice melts slowly and doesn't get warm nearly as quickly, and not near as warm as before.
As far as sound, my car windows are not exactly as quiet as a Lincoln, but I can honestly say with the windows open, I can now hear the exhaust from the outside, not through the floor.
I don't know how the DynaMat works, I have never been in a car that had it.  I can say I have seen both materials and the duct wrap I used seems to be the same type material but comes in a one foot roll.  Frankly I thought it was easier to work with than a whole sheet.
I'd be interested to hear jpsycoboy5's thoughts on it.

[jpsycoboy5]

Well, my wife each trip would put her cold water on the floor in a bag leaning near the hump.  After about an hour or so she'd say the ice had all melted and it was warm. Undrinkable, warmer than outside temp-warm. 
She has done that several times this year and the ice melts slowly and doesn't get warm nearly as quickly, and not near as warm as before.
As far as sound, my car windows are not exactly as quiet as a Lincoln, but I can honestly say with the windows open, I can now hear the exhaust from the outside, not through the floor.
I don't know how the DynaMat works, I have never been in a car that had it.  I can say I have seen both materials and the duct wrap I used seems to be the same type material but comes in a one foot roll.  Frankly I thought it was easier to work with than a whole sheet.
I'd be interested to hear jpsycoboy5's thoughts on it.

Well my charger is far from being near this stage but I did use it in my dodge ram this weekend by the transfer case during slow crawling or 2 tracking would always get very hot almost to hot to touch and after using the duct wrap it has cooled the floor a considerable amount and it did make the truck a lot quieter I haven't tried dynamat so idk how it compares to the duct wrap either but it was cheap and did the job

[NHCharger]

Took the Charger out for a test drive, first one in almost 5 years. No main roads, just up and down the side road a few times. Had my infra-red temperature gun. I left one small space on the firewall bare. After the drive and idling in my driveway the temperature on the one spot was 195º-200º. Every place around it with the Eastwood material was 50º-60º cooler. Carpet is not installed so i could get a true reading. I'm thinking about putting a second layer of the material on the firewall area. The headers easily get up to 500º and being a few inches from the firewall it's a real foot warmer.

As far as the sound deadening after 5 years I wouldn't know if it was reduced or not. Plus the back seat, trunk divider, carpet and door panels are not in yet.

[gtx6970]

I'm doing a 1970 Cuda for a customer and we are going with fatmat.com over dyna-mat

with a friend of mines recomendation ( he used it in a 1972 Dart resto and says it's  a quality product )

[NHCharger]

Update. Big difference in road noise between my 72 Charger with no sound deadening and the 71 Charger. And I only did the floors and firewall.

[ramairthree]

Im just doing reflectix over home made lizard skin,
but your peel and place option looks great!

No adhesive, not big rolls. A smart way to go.

By the way, I thought I found a list on here , or a pic on here that showed a list of the sizes of interior trim screws, sheet metal screws you needed for door panels, kick panels, etc. etc.

Am I crazy, I can not find it now.