Chrysler she's a changing...

[hemihead]

Not only the PU /SUV boom . Take a look at Mopar's car line. Iacocca came in in the 80's built and sold affordable , fuel efficient cars . No matter how many people hated them, they sold alot of them . As he was leaving, Iacocca said that Chrysler was starting to build bigger , more thirsty cars again that made them go broke in the first place. Well, they are doing it again. They are building big , expensive , gas hogs at a time when they should be building cheap fuel sippers . No matter how much many people here don't like it , Chrysler didn't need a new Hemi Challenger . Big waste of design money . Instead of getting a Japanese partner for a small car , they should have used the money from the Challenger to design an economy car. We don't need a Hemi in every car they make .

[Ghoste]

But, was the Hemi Challenger that nobody needs just Chrysler reacting to the outcry over building a car that nobody (at least the vocal enthusiasts and press) wanted (the Eurocharger sedan)?

[Kevin68N71]

Not only the PU /SUV boom . Take a look at Mopar's car line. Iacocca came in in the 80's built and sold affordable , fuel efficient cars . No matter how many people hated them, they sold alot of them . As he was leaving, Iacocca said that Chrysler was starting to build bigger , more thirsty cars again that made them go broke in the first place. Well, they are doing it again. They are building big , expensive , gas hogs at a time when they should be building cheap fuel sippers . No matter how much many people here don't like it , Chrysler didn't need a new Hemi Challenger . Big waste of design money . Instead of getting a Japanese partner for a small car , they should have used the money from the Challenger to design an economy car. We don't need a Hemi in every car they make .

Using this logic, why is Chevy still building a Corvette, Ford anything beyond a 6 cylinder Mustang?

Big waste of money???!!!!  You are kidding, right?  Every 10th car, at least here, on the highway seems to be a 300 or a Charger of various flavors.  They made a killing with those cars. Chrysler can meet demands of all sorts of customers by eventually offering the Challenger in both econo 6 and full SRT and RT flavors, JUST LIKE THEY DID in 1970, with the inline 6 up to the Hemi.

If this is such a big design money failure, please advise Ford with its Shelby Mustang and GT Mustang programs, and Chevy with its new Camaro and revised GTO.  Would you rather they stick the Z28 onto the Malibu platform?  People seem to bitch and complain that American cars are so BORING, then when they bring out exciting cars, some people complain that they should be building econo cars.

This is EXACTLY what I have been rattling on about the fickle American car buying public.  We ASK for SUVs, then we bitch that we don't get small cars.  And of course, if we DO get small cars, we don't buy them, we buy the Japanese version, because Uncle Arthur had an engine problem in his 85 Aries that he never changed the oil in--and gee, that just speaks for ALL American cars, right?

And when you say "we don't need a hemi in every car they make", who are you speaking for?  Not me.  Good for Dodge for listening to enthusiasts.  Maybe, just maybe, they might be in a great position when we find out that all this global warming hoopla is nothing more than BS.

In the meantime, Dodge already has an Avenger at 21/30 mpg and a Caliber at 24/29.  Not to mention their own hybrid is coming out. Not to mention all their work on MDS.  Not to mention additional small cars coming out. 

Gee, Dodge is doing something crazy and actually listening to car buyers and enthusiasts.  How dare they.

[Mike DC]

 
Well, the Chally is a unique situation right now.  It's not just a hot new sports car, it fills a hole in the market for Mopar stuff that has been left open & festering for 30 straight years.


The Camaro and Mustang and Chally are nice sellers (at least until the CAFE changes neuter them), but they're not gonna save a company if it has basically over-trucked and under-carred its priorities in the big picture.


Look at the situation with big truck/SUV sales since the steady gasoline climb that we've been seeing in the last couple of years.  The effect on sales is real. 

And it's just beginning.  The gas prices are here to stay and they're probably not even finished climbing yet.  Furthermore, the Fed has just legislated the end of the CAFE party that Detroit has had for the last 15 years.  The Chally, the Mustang, the Camaro . . . probably none of these cars will have a second generation in anything like the form they're in now.

      

[Ghoste]

Which is one of the reasons the Viper was killed and one of the reasons why the next generation Corvette is going to be a very mild vehicle.

[Kevin68N71]

Which is one of the reasons the Viper was killed and one of the reasons why the next generation Corvette is going to be a very mild vehicle.

Yes, but one has to admit, the Viper had a hell of a run for a niche vehicle, a truly "halo" car if ever there was one.

Yes, we might be looking at 1971 all over again within the next year or so.  Thanks Pres. Bush for the new CAFE cr@p, and thanks American public for buying into the scam that is man-made global warming.

From the folks who brought you the "downsized cars", airbags, third tail lights, extra cost burdens, ugly useless bumpers, huge tail lights, CAFE standards, leaky gas cans, and poisonous light bulbs, I give you the US Government, all at our expense.

[Mike DC]

 

What if some Dr. Evil scientist planted a super-duper genetically-modified seed in Antarctica, and then it sprouted a perfect clone of the United States (and everyone & everything in it)? 

THEN would you accept why the price of oil has to increase permanently because of their added drain on the planet's supplies?





Well, China has several times more people than that.