Which is a Better Engine?

[SmashingPunkFan]

A 426 Hemi?

Or a 440? 

For gas Mileage? and for just plain BadAss Strength?   

I've heard that the 426 Hemi actually has more Horsepower than the 440... is it true?

Where would be a good place to find info like this... well I mean besides here! lol 

I'm kinda new to Dodge Chargers, but want to know EVERYTHING I can about them, especially before I buy one.

Thank You for all the help!

[Brock Samson]

well welcome to the site , but if your first question is about gas milage you may want to reconcider your choice of vehicles... 

[69bronzeT5]

Heres some info for you on the engines.

440 Magnum
Piston Displacement:  440 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.32" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  375 @ 4600rpm
Torque: 480 @ 3200


426 HEMI
Piston Displacement:  426 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.25" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  425 @ 5000rpm
Torque: 490 @ 4000


Do keep in mind....Hemi's are WAY more expensive to buy and also, the parts for them are WAY more.

[MoParMetal]

Heres some info for you on the engines.

440 Magnum
Piston Displacement:  440 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.32" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  375 @ 4600rpm
Torque: 480 @ 3200


426 HEMI
Piston Displacement:  426 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.25" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  425 @ 5000rpm
Torque: 490 @ 4000


Do keep in mind....Hemi's are WAY more expensive to buy and also, the parts for them are WAY more.

come on man. you know those hp and torque numbers are way under rated.


by the way. 383 blocks are a little bit stronger than a 440 block.

[69bronzeT5]

Heres some info for you on the engines.

440 Magnum
Piston Displacement:  440 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.32" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  375 @ 4600rpm
Torque: 480 @ 3200


426 HEMI
Piston Displacement:  426 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.25" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  425 @ 5000rpm
Torque: 490 @ 4000


Do keep in mind....Hemi's are WAY more expensive to buy and also, the parts for them are WAY more.

come on man. you know those hp and torque numbers are way under rated.

Straight from the 1969 Dodge info packets

[SmashingPunkFan]

Thanks for the info, all of you!

But I've already considered, with gas RISING all the time, that this car is gas KILLING machine, and is going to need a new loan every weekend for a fill up! lol


But my dream Dodge Charger, the one that got me started, is the one from the fast and the furious.
I know having one like that, is 1ST: probably not street legal in any state. And 2ND: Unaffordable.

But I want to get all the muscle under the hood possible. And I've heard a lot about different engines, and sizes, I just want the Most power

Opinions? Thanx

Thank you all for your help!

[JimShine]

The Fast and Furious Charger didn't have a very impressive engine in it. The blower and fancy looking stuff on it was all fake. You can build the same car with whatever you want for an engine and have the fake blower make it appear mean, just like the real one. If you are real inventive, you can even fabricate a rig to make it pop wheelies like they used in the movie.

[Brock Samson]

  So,..  you build a replica of black and blowns' car, and then hide a slant 6 under the blower...

so what's the problem?.. 

[SmashingPunkFan]

Okay.

Well in your opinion, what is the BEST engine available for this ride?


For gas salvage A.K.A. Gas mileage? (I know it's not realistic, but there is some number out there)
Strongest?
Replacing parts difficulty? like are they hard to find?




Which is the strongest out there? 

And where can you order one at? Like a 426 Hemi?
Or do you have to find them?, or can you still order crate engines for them?



Tahnk you! 

[MoParMetal]

Heres some info for you on the engines.

440 Magnum
Piston Displacement:  440 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.32" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  375 @ 4600rpm
Torque: 480 @ 3200


426 HEMI
Piston Displacement:  426 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.25" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  425 @ 5000rpm
Torque: 490 @ 4000


Do keep in mind....Hemi's are WAY more expensive to buy and also, the parts for them are WAY more.

come on man. you know those hp and torque numbers are way under rated.

Straight from the 1969 Dodge info packets

pffffffft didn't you know chrysler engineers purposely rated them at lower numbers to mess with gm and ford?

[69bronzeT5]

Okay.

Well in your opinion, what is the BEST engine available for this ride?
I would go for a 440


Replacing parts difficulty? like are they hard to find?
440s should be too hard to find stuff for. Hemis are wayyy harder. For a pair of repro Hemi valve covers..its about 900. For a used Hemi air cleaner...they can go anywhere from 800-1800.

And where can you order one at? Like a 426 Hemi?
You can not order a 426 Hemi. You would have to get lucky to find a used one for sale...but you would be paying an arm and a leg for it.

Or do you have to find them?, or can you still order crate engines for them?
Various companys sell them. Just do a search on google for Mopar crate engines. And yes, you can order a variety of sizes of crate engines.



Tahnk you! 

[69bronzeT5]

Heres some info for you on the engines.

440 Magnum
Piston Displacement:  440 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.32" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  375 @ 4600rpm
Torque: 480 @ 3200


426 HEMI
Piston Displacement:  426 cu. in
Bore and stroke:  4.25" x 3.75"
Compression ratio:  10.25 to 1
Horsepower:  425 @ 5000rpm
Torque: 490 @ 4000


Do keep in mind....Hemi's are WAY more expensive to buy and also, the parts for them are WAY more.

come on man. you know those hp and torque numbers are way under rated.

Straight from the 1969 Dodge info packets

pffffffft didn't you know chrysler engineers purposely rated them at lower numbers to mess with gm and ford?

Just trying to give him an idea of the numbers. I dont know the EXACT numbers. Do you

[MoParMetal]

Hemis were actually at 550.

340s i think they were 320+.

the rest i believe were just a bit above their actual numbers

[SmashingPunkFan]

Thank you all!

Okay, though various answers.

Everyone, post what your ideal engine would be, and why?

And what year you would put it in, and version.

I'm just trying to find whats right, and the best way I think to do that, is to ask what you'd do.

Thank you all again!

[69bronzeT5]

It depends on the amount of cash I/you have. I would get a base XP '69, put a 440 in it but do some work to the 440 such as upgrades. BUT if I had a really good sized budget, I would find a '69 R/T without a motor and stick a 512 crate engine in it or something like that.

[MoParMetal]

Thank you all!

Okay, though various answers.

Everyone, post what your ideal engine would be, and why?

And what year you would put it in, and version.

I'm just trying to find whats right, and the best way I think to do that, is to ask what you'd do.

Thank you all again!

i got 2 motors im going to build.

383 stroked to 451. indy 440-1 heads. maybe a roller cam. a single 4 barrel. backed by an auto. in a 71 Duster. My wife's car.

440 stroked to 500. indy 440-1 heads. hydraulic roller. fuel injection six pak style. backed by a 5 speed. in my 71 "Bee-Tona"

it all depends on what you're going to do with the car. what are you looking to do?

[2Gunz]

If your really looking for MPG I think your out of luck.


Prolly the best option would be a new school hemi out of a wrecked something.


It would get better gas mileage than any of the old stuff and still have some ass to it.

But that also is allot more complicated to put together.

[mally69]

You can do anyhting you want, build anything you want, at any power level. All you have to have is LOTS OF MONEY. Just go out and buy the parts, they are all available.  If you built a mild built 440 with around 450 Hp with around 510 ft.lbs.tq. that would impress the heck out of you, beleive me. And to buy a hemi crate engine, the cheapest one starts at 13,500 bucks    And you could build one heck of a stroked wedge for that price. There is MUCH more to it than just dropping a huge engine into a car, depends on how serious you want to get.

[Troy]

If you're looking for good mileage and an affordable engine then put in a modern 5.9 Magnum. These are truck engines, have a lot of low end torque, are relatively cheap, and easy to find with low miles. If you keep the fuel injection (or switch to another EFI) you can easily get 20+ mpg. You won't likely win any races without doing some modifications ($$$) but it will have more than enough power to get you around town. You can also find running 383s for not much money and they will definitely get a Charger moving just fine. You gas mileage will likely drop to 12-15 though. Step up to a built 440, a Hemi, or any sort of stroker and you better not worry about the price of gas because the engine will drain your pocketbook before you even need to fill the tank. Remember that you'll also need to run high octane (premium) fuel but the 5.9 will run on 87 octane all day long.

Troy

[John_Kunkel]

I've driven them all and I've always thought the stock Street Hemi was a disappointment. For it's rated horsepower it's not all that more impressive on the old buttmeter than a 440 Magnum.

[SmashingPunkFan]

Well I'm very very glad you all posted your opinions, and I will keep them all in mind.

I was just looking to see if any one knew of the numbers, like the mileage and stuff.

I've already known for the entire time I wanted this car, that is does not use gas, it KILLS IT!!!!!!!!! lol


I just want to know now what you all would, or did put in yours?

Thank you all for your help!

[69bronzeT5]

or did put in yours?

I put a 383 in my '69

[69bronzeT5]

Hemis were actually at 550.

Hemi's were 425...with a bit of tuning, they could hit 440-450hp....not 550

[MoParMetal]

Hemis were actually at 550.

Hemi's were 425...with a bit of tuning, they could hit 440-450hp....not 550

whatever makes you happy.

[mally69]

I was told that they were actually 465 hp and the new 426 hemi crate motors are rated at 465 and are supposed to be built the same as the origional.  Thats what I was told.