1969 daytona Q5 UPDATE#3 pics mexico /trunk/wing/engine/under body coat

[69daytonaQ5]

with help from Doug Schellinger of DATONA-SUPERBIRD AUTO CLUB...I've found out its a real Q5 turquoise car with the C6T tan interior and original #9th member of his club...and my dad purchased it in 1980..i had no idea it was a rare color..all this time i thought it was originally orange..until i was at the store and picked up a car collectors magazine where there was a Q5 daytona for about 400,000 ...i was so juiced i decided to contact doug..my dad was a mopar fanatic ..he was murdered  in 91, we were forced to sell almost all his cars but kept some..we had dusters, roadrunners ,challengers,cudas,chargers and my daytona we only kept a few...and moved out of east palo alto ,ca in 1992..i was 6 when he passed and will always remember him...ill never forget during the 89 earthquake i was in his challenger when i rolled off and hit the neighbors mail box...anyways it was defiantly hard to loose my father but he must have had a plan because he always kept his daytona in great condition..I'm glad I've  garaged it just like he did all his life...its been in there since it was bought...I've never touched it I'd rather mess with my ford 5.0's than touch that,i guess because I'm scared that I'll mess it up...but thanks to Doug ,he helped me trace it back to as far as 1975..thanks Doug

[Ghoste]

Wow, that's a hell of a story.  I'm sorry about what happened to your father but if this car helps you keep some kind of connection to him then it's a good thing.  I'm guessing the advice to never sell it would be wasted.

Oh, and welcome to the group and more pics!

[69daytonaQ5]

so when i contacted Doug..he asked me to provide the fender tag and vin..thats when we knew it was a real daytona ...he asked only about 2 or 3 questions before he said "that daytona doesn't have DAYTONA in big letters across the front does it?" i replied oh my god..yes it DOES..i live in California and this guy I've never met just described my car and he's in Wisconsin..i was in shock..and disbelief...but then i realized i had been a needle in a haystack find for him as well as him to me...we quickly started to talk about my car he said he remembered the car from when his dad ran the car club..he told me that it was a previous members former car who was selling at the time...we excahaged email addresses and he told me he had paper work of my car and a picture as well as an add...i went home and everything he said matched up..the guy who was #9 member selling the car was the guy on my dads original bill of sale which i still have ...i gave Doug a call and told him...he said he would send me all the info he had on my car and all he wanted in return was a picture of the car now...so i sent hI'm all these..im glad i met Doug oh he asked me what i drove and i said a 5.0 , he said he also had a 85 5.0 which was a good thing i guess...

[69daytonaQ5]

this is what i drive and rather mess up...and rebuild...but i still don't have the confidence to touch the 1969 daytona..and don't plan to do anything other than original with

[dads_69]

Thats cool you still have the car indoors for sure. Sorry about your dad. Doug and a few others are very well educated about wing cars. Your sitting on a gold mine.
Awesome Daytona!! 

Thanks for the photos and welcome to the board. 

Mark

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Welcome to the forum!  Great car... I predict Troy H, Danny L, and many others will be sending you PMs about trading for the Daytona.   With the car's history in your family though, sounds like a keeper!

Allen

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Glad you made it over to the site!  Now I have some pics to put with your registration!

PS---nice Foxbody.  I have the same '03 Cobra replicas on my 92 GT convertible....
you can make the front center caps fit with a little creativity from a hammer on the dust covers!

[pettybird]

ok WOW that's awesome!  Could you post your fender tag pic?  a couple of us would LOVE to see how yours is optioned, down to the little things!

I read this post second, of course...


and welcome wing and 5.0 owner!  I just stepped into the SN95 world last year-

[pettybird]

PS---nice Foxbody.  I have the same '03 Cobra replicas on my 92 GT convertible....
you can make the front center caps fit with a little creativity from a hammer on the dust covers!

you can make them fit a lot easier with a 5 lug conversion!  94-5 cars are popping up in junkyards pretty regularly these days.  I ran '98 cobra wheels on my '93 when i did the swap.

[Aero426]

It's a great story and really nice to see the car resurface.   

[nascarxx29]

I got a old ad from when Rich Mieintel was selling a 69 charger 500 with a daytona wing.his 410777 daytona shows up in old 79 records as bright red .And tan interior.Congrats .Its shows up on the shiplist as car #359 Sierra Dodge in Chico CA #606 scheduled builddate job number 926866

[nascarxx29]

[hemi68charger]

Wow Doug.....
What a story... Another, My Dad-had-one..........  I'm sorry to hear about your father ( I too lost mine way too young)...... I hope you enjoy your Daytona in years to come and can pass it on to future Lil' Dougs or Dougettes.......

Didn't read all the replies, but are you going back to Q5?

Cheers,
Troy

[69daytonaQ5]

Q5 is the plan for paint..ill probably have my mechanic that i trust just put new gaskets ,and if i do anything else it will be the valves on the heads with new seals and get it running it hasn't ran for about 20+ years and then put it on the market not in a hurry to sell so ill hang on to it till i get what i want.especially after seeing what the Q5 with black int that was going for 375k..mine only has 53xxx on it ..when i do fix it to drive it wont be driven much anyways.unless to a car show that you guys host aslong as there is a northern california show sometime..ill probably put some lowjack on it and park it in its spotin the garage...i got time to get the right offer im only 22..when i tell someone i have this car they always laugh and tell me im bullshitting..so ill wait...oh I've had offers by some guy who wanted to trade a cuda fully restored and $80,000 i was quick to turn that down he said he used to have one and sold it..works at chevrolet of livermore he told me he specializes in cuda and challenger bodys..i guess a co-worker of his lives by me with a 69 roadrunner and told him about it..cool guy..he's came twice already...its gonna take about 375 to get over my sentimental value..i guess you can say there is really no price I'd go for yet ...

P.S.    for the mustang owners i have the 03's in five lug now 18x9 18x10.5 and 5 lug i have the sn-95 cobra front and disc in the back but not installed yet..thanks for the info..i sure will post a fender tag. .i be sending one 2 doug soon...thanks again doug

[69_500]

Definately a car to hold on to.

I'm another one of the "dad had a Daytona" people on this board. My dad had 5 Daytona's, 2 Superbirds, and 2 Charger 500's. I thought everyone had a bunch of these cars when I was little. He didn't have a Q5 Daytona, but did have a Q5 charger 500. Definately a beautiful color on a car, and with the tan interior would be quite striking if you ask me.

Before Troy (hemicharger68) asks, he will want to trade for the car with his HEMI 68 Charger. I can't offer anything close to that, just a charger 500. Already know the answer is a "NO", but its tradition that we both ask. So to get it out of the way.

[69daytonaQ5]

when i do sell..you better believe im getting a shelby500 and charger 500..and a down to a house

[bzabodyn]

Wow - a crazy story but good to see that the car is no worse for wear after all these years... I wouldn't sell the car now either, since the market's soft and you're going to be hard-pressed to get more than $150k as it sits (anybody else is going to restore it to its original condition, and that's still big bucks)... the Q5 daytona that's been listed for $315k has probably had a $150-200k restoration, FYI...

At any rate, it's still a hell of a car and anyone on this board would love to have it in their garage (including myself!) - take care of it and keep us updated!

Brandon

[daytonalo]

WHY IS THERE FORD STUFF IN AERO SECTION IT IS JUST TAKING UP SPACE !! PLEASE POST THOSE PICS WHERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THEY'RE COOL !

[69daytonaQ5]

sorry about the ford stuff...here are some pics



i belive it goes like this ...i might be wrong
FN2
N85 R11 V88 Y39 26
C16 C?5 C33 J25 M21 M31
A01 A04 A11 A36 B41 B51
Q5 Q5 C6T T3 606 926866
E86 D32 XX29 L9B 410777

[billssuperbird]

great looking daytona.

[Aero426]

Tony is asking for a decode of the fender tag posted farther up this thread.   I do not have by option code materials with me.    Can anyone else run the codes for him?

[hemi68charger]

...

Before Troy (hemicharger68) asks, he will want to trade for the car with his HEMI 68 Charger. I can't offer anything close to that, just a charger 500. Already know the answer is a "NO", but its tradition that we both ask. So to get it out of the way.

Who? Me?  Na...... He wouldn't want an original 4-speed Charger 500 and a soon-to-be-freshly-painted turquoise '68 Hemi Charger R/T...

Troy

[hemigeno]

sorry about the ford stuff...here are some pics

i belive it goes like this ...i might be wrong
FN2
N85 R11 V88 Y39 26
C16 C?5 C33 J25 M21 M31
A01 A04 A11 A36 B41 B51
Q5 Q5 C6T T3 606 926866
E86 D32 XX29 L9B 410777

Fender tags are read from bottom to top, left to right - so here goes:

E86 - HP440, 375hp 4bbl engine
D32 - Automatic Transmission
XX29 - Charger 500/Daytona
L - HP440 engine
9 - 1969 Model Year
B - Hamtramck Assembly Plant
410777 - VIN Sequence Number
Q5 - Roof paint color
Q5 - Body paint color
C - Charger trim grade
6 - Vinyl bucket seats
T - Tan vinyl color
T3 - Upper Door Frame paint color
606 - Scheduled Production Date of Friday, June 6, 1969
926866 - Special Order Number
A01 - Light Group
A04 - Radio Group
A11 - Charger500 or Daytona Sales Code
A36 - Performance Axle Package (3.55:1 8-3/4")
B41 - Disc Brakes
B51 - Power Brakes
C16 - Console
C55 - Bucket Seats
G33 - Driver's side remote rear view mirror
J25 - 3-speeed wipers
M21 - Driprail mouldings
M31 - Body belt mouldings
N85 - Tachometer
R11 - 2watt MusicMaster AM radio
V88 - Transverse Stripe Delete
Y39 - Special Order car
26 - 26" Radiator Width
EN2 - End of tag codes Line 2



I might need to check a couple of those codes, as I rattled those off from memory.  Might have M21 and M31 reversed, and I don't see A04 much so I was a little fuzzy on that one.

[MoParMetal]

 
good thing you keep it in the garage. i would hate to say another wing car succumb to the elements.

[69daytonaQ5]

thanks guys...i really apreciate all the help

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

WHY IS THERE FORD STUFF IN AERO SECTION IT IS JUST TAKING UP SPACE !! PLEASE POST THOSE PICS WHERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THEY'RE COOL !

Relax there Gilligan....don't get your scupper plug in a bunch....

[Mopurr]

ok Gene....show off you beat me..... and no you don't have them switched.   And I might add that while you got it done faster I was baking a cake and cooking pasta while at the same time decoding a car.....


FN2--EN2--END OF SALES CODE
N85 TACHOMETER
R11 RADIO AM MUSIC MASTER
V88 SPORT STRIPE DELETE
Y39 SPECIAL ORDER
26 RADIATOR DIAMETER
C16 CONSOLE/WOODGRAIN PANEL
C?5  C55? BUCKET SEATS- FRONT
C33  CORRECTED TO G33 LH CHROME REMOTE CONTROL MIRROR
J25 3 SPD WIPERS
M21 DRIP RAIL MOULDING
M31BODY BELT MOULDING
A01LIGHT PACKAGE
A04 BASIC RADIO GROUP
A11SPECIAL MODEL XX29 CHARGER DAYTONA
A36 PERFORMANCE AXLE PACKAGE  SURE GRIP 3.55
B41 FRONT DISC BRAKES W/ STD 10" RR DRUM
B51 POWER BRAKES
Q5 BRIGHT TURQUOISE METALLIC
Q5 "             "               "  TRIM CODE
C6T CHARGER VINYL BUCKET SADDLE TAN
T3 LT TAN UPPER DOOR FRAME
606 BUILD DATE JUNE 6
926866 ORDER #
E86 440 8 CYL. 4 BBL 375 HP
D32 A727 3 SPD AUTO. TRAN.
XX29 L9B 410777 CAR'S SERIAL NUMBER

SINCE I COPIED & PASTED I KIND OF MIXED THE LINE ORDER TO LET ME GET THIS BROKE DOWN & TYPED QUICKER.

[hemigeno]

And I might add that while you got it done faster I was baking a cake and cooking pasta while at the same time decoding a car.....

Thanks for confirming what I wasn't clear on.  I'd ask ya to save me a piece of cake, but September's a long way off 

[pettybird]

WHY IS THERE FORD STUFF IN AERO SECTION IT IS JUST TAKING UP SPACE !! PLEASE POST THOSE PICS WHERE PEOPLE STILL THINK THEY'RE COOL !

taking up space?  is you knew to the interweb?


try not to scare the new guy off already.  jesus.

[A383Wing]

Yea...what he said.....

Bryan

[als500]

Daytonlo needs to take a chill pill or something, he reminds me of Oscar the Grouch.

[A383Wing]

He ain't even warmed up yet.....he's a pussycat at heart....we all love him.

Bryan   

[Mopurr]

Well since it is a few months off until the meet, I guess you will have to miss out on this cake, but plans are that there will be a couple of cakes traveling over to MO in Sept.

[69_500]

Hey I know its off topic, but speaking of cakes. Why don't ya bake a cake in the shape of a Daytona or a superbird for the Monster Mopar? My 5th birthday cake was a Petty blue Superbird, Loved it.


Hmmmmm, so with the A01 package, anything written on top of the drivers side tail light housing? I know I know, so far its only been on the 500's but still worth asking right?

[69daytonaQ5]

[69_500]

Still a really nice looking car. Noticed that there is quite a bit that has been changed under the hood from stock, but 1 thing that is right. NO FRONT HOOD bumpers. Just like it should be.

OH I'm sure Gene already asked about the extra hole in the trough behind the battery tray, but how many holes are there on yours?

[69daytonaQ5]

where are those holes and what did you noticed has been changed? carb or valvecovers?

[Aero426]

where are those holes and what did you noticed has been changed? carb or valvecovers?

Aftermarket valve covers and coil.   What are the large lines running across the battery tray area and through the radiator support?    The experts may spot some other things.  I don't see anything that you can't remedy.   

[69daytonaQ5]

did this car come with a/c ..i think i seen a compressor in there..which didn't look original..

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

The car was originally non-AC but looking at that engine shot it almost looks like there is a receiver-drier mounted to the inner fender just forward of the master cylinder....

[hemi68charger]

where are those holes and what did you noticed has been changed? carb or valvecovers?

You sure you don't want a Hemi Charger for that?......................................  For all the doubters..   

Troy

[moparstuart]

where are those holes and what did you noticed has been changed? carb or valvecovers?

You sure you don't want a Hemi Charger for that?......................................  For all the doubters..   

Troy

way to go troy  ,wouldnt expect anything less

[RAC95054]

...

Before Troy (hemicharger68) asks, he will want to trade for the car with his HEMI 68 Charger. I can't offer anything close to that, just a charger 500. Already know the answer is a "NO", but its tradition that we both ask. So to get it out of the way.

Who? Me?  Na...... He wouldn't want an original 4-speed Charger 500 and a soon-to-be-freshly-painted turquoise '68 Hemi Charger R/T...

Troy

Of course, I DO want Dana, Troy.   

Welcome to the forum, 69DaytonaQ5.  Unfortunately, it seems there are too many of us here that lost our fathers too soon.  Hopefully the cars make us all feel at least a little better without them here. 

[69_500]

The car definately didn't come factory with the A/C but it looks in the interior photo' that someone installed an under dash system at some time. The things under the hood that aren't correct are mainly just minor cosmetic things. Nothing that can't easily be changed back.

The holes I was talking about are in the trough area on the inner fender well, behind where the battery sits. The electrical wiring should be running through this trough, and there should only be 1 hole in the trough, but on Daytona's for some reason there seems to be a 2nd hole. I couldn't find the photo in the  thread on Gene's Daytona for refernce, but I think it was on page 7. Somebody help.

[69daytonaQ5]

Found the keys...opened the trunk looks like a thin film or tape in the color white around the inside of the rear lower side red marker where stripe would go

[69_500]

Care to take some photo's of the inside of the trunk area? Love shots of the trunk mat, jack hold down plates, wing braces, and the such.

[69daytonaQ5]

hemi68charger ....ok..charger 500 + 68 hemi+ cash

[69daytonaQ5]

april foooooooooool;s

[69daytonaQ5]

ill take some pics ...no problem...

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

april foooooooooool;s

Dauummm!

[F6Bee]

Great story, less the part about your dad, sorry.

Love to see some pics inside the trunk without the trunk mat and inside of the quarter panels.

Rick.

[69daytonaQ5]

stadium in mexico

same pic


paper work 4 daytona before mexico


more papers on daytona


even got neww tires in mexico

 
dads cuzin holding a pig+what a pic

[69daytonaQ5]

[69daytonaQ5]

 



 





 

[69daytonaQ5]

  headers


  manifold

[Aero426]

The VIN will be stamped on the engine block on the passenger side just above the oil pan.    The last six numbers should match the dashboard.

[Aero426]

Well, it took a while, but I finally found the photo of Tony's car from 1975.  This is when Rich Meintel owned it in California.  Rich was a very early DSAC and WW member.    This is the original Q5 car with the tan interior.

[tan top]

good back in the day picture    Q5 & tan interior  thats got to be a one of one , color combo , even for any 69 charger 

 

[69daytonaQ5]

wow i cant believe the pic...i need that

[hemi68charger]

Hello again....
Hope you're starting to enjoy the Daytona some... Hopefully you're not near Mexico City where the traffic is horrible. If you cruise up to Houston some time, give me a shout. Oh yeah, since the last time I replied to this thread, I've gotten my own Daytona.. 

Now I too have a Daytona like my Dad, but unlike you, not the one he owned... But, that's ok..........

Cheers,
Troy

[69daytonaQ5]

hey great troy...im very happy to hear that man.im glad you got one now..i live in northern california and this car really has not seen much road since my dad had it..still has 50k...so there wont be any fender benders..hahaha..man its been a while i lost my password and had no internet access..but im back...im looking to start the restoration process here in the next year...i got in over my head with a 90xchp mustang 5.0 lx i purchased in mint condition as a roller for 1500...and went all out on it..since the purchase ive dumped 10k into it and the result is a mustang lx 331 stroker afr headed beast with 13'cobra brakes....with no re-sale value at all...haha..talk about a waste of money...that coulda been woth a lot more in the daytona..so no more mustangs i promise guys..im about to be 25 in may and my daytona is NEXT...first im planning on re-gasketing the whole motor all original as can be and getting it in running condition...and as far as suspension??i dont know what to do ..id like to keep the stock original evrything but maybe new bushings and powdercoating..then id have to go with the paint since most suspension will be off?or would it?i just dont trust no one with my car...so im looking for some good opinions..thanks...good luck with that daytona troy..and thankseveryone else for all your support >>ill be on dont worry

[hemi68charger]

hey great troy...im very happy to hear that man.im glad you got one now..i live in northern california and this car really has not seen much road since my dad had it..still has 50k...so there wont be any fender benders..hahaha..man its been a while i lost my password and had no internet access..but im back...im looking to start the restoration process here in the next year...i got in over my head with a 90xchp mustang 5.0 lx i purchased in mint condition as a roller for 1500...and went all out on it..since the purchase ive dumped 10k into it and the result is a mustang lx 331 stroker afr headed beast with 13'cobra brakes....with no re-sale value at all...haha..talk about a waste of money...that coulda been woth a lot more in the daytona..so no more mustangs i promise guys..im about to be 25 in may and my daytona is NEXT...first im planning on re-gasketing the whole motor all original as can be and getting it in running condition...and as far as suspension??i dont know what to do ..id like to keep the stock original evrything but maybe new bushings and powdercoating..then id have to go with the paint since most suspension will be off?or would it?i just dont trust no one with my car...so im looking for some good opinions..thanks...good luck with that daytona troy..and thankseveryone else for all your support >>ill be on dont worry

You have gotten yourself into the best possible position of empowering yourself with the resources needed to restore the car. There are levels of restoration calibrated by finances,,,,, and of course, knowledge. Remember, one man's restored car is another man's basket-case. You could do a down-and-dirty freshening up and get her on the road. Or, you could go full out. The best bang for the buck is to restore the car as close as possible cosmetically. Believe me, regardless, you'll get the attention !!!!!  Mine is about as OEM as you can get with the exceptions of magnum 500's and Goodyear Eagle GT2's...  No matter where I go, I get the looks and attention. So, don't drive it unless you shy away from that..   

Troy

Feel free to email or pm any time.....

[nascarxx29]

Rich Meintal also had a 500 with a wing.Maybe it will turn up .I found its day one for sale ad.Which I believe is the car 238074.Will see If I turn up a ad for 410777 daytona

[69daytonaQ5]

Woke up today to my cousin who came bake from fontana and out side was my dads 73 duster which used to be a brite blue with a black 340 stripe down the side...its currently green...lilke the 70 charger r/t my dad had...ill try and post pics...my uncle still owns the 70r/t charger fully restored and a challenger r/t all previously my fathers...ill try and post those up here soon