Looked at a '71 R/T today.

[73ChargerSE]

Well, I passed on the car I WAS going to buy.  The guy had cut the floor pans out.  There were SOME parts that were decent, may try to pick up some of the parts.  Anyways, I went to a local junkyard that has a couple of 3rd gens looking for a set of grilles for my car.  The guy working said he knew of a friend with a '71, but it was an R/T.  Got in touch with the person that owns the car.  They were going to make a barbecue out of it  I'm seeing what I can do about buying the car.  Has PERFECT R/T tail lights.  It's missing the hood and a fender and it only has one of the louvered doors.  No fender tag on it which is kind of a bummer.  Comes with a 440 block, a NOS purple cam and lifter set, and new valve springs.  Car looked to be originally Hemi Orange with a black top but I'm not certain.  Can anyone help with the VIN? WS23U1A140903. It is a true R/T correct?

Paul

P.S. A little teaser

[Chargerguy74]

Yes WS23U1 is a 71 440 charger R/T

[TruckDriver]

BUMMER

[73ChargerSE]

BUMMER

Why's that?

[69bronzeT5]

I think he means the BBQ part.

[73ChargerSE]

They WERE going to turn it into one.  Luckily I may have saved it.

[hemihead]

Sounds like an R/T VIN . More Pics please .

[73ChargerSE]

Don't want to post too many.  This is the side with the non-R/T door.  What does it look like it's worth?  Power disc brake car, power steering car, A/C car.

[69bronzeT5]

I'm going to say between 500-1000. If I had the cash, I'd get it

[Magnumcharger]

I'm going to say between 500-1000. If I had the cash, I'd get it

[73ChargerSE]

But there's the dilema of what to do if/when I buy it.  I certainly do not have enough money to restore the car like it deserves to be.  Call me a bad guy if you will, but I'd like to make some money off of this for my Charger (need wiring, a tranny rebuild, and a rear end rebuild)  I'm just a 19 year old kid that happened to stumble upon the car.

[mikesbbody]

could you not just buy it and keep it/store it? you are young so whats the rush? it will take time/money with time comes money and you definitily have time  if you decide not to restore it you could sell it and make some $ im sure. despite everything it needs it is still a RT!

[69bronzeT5]

could you not just buy it and keep it/store it?

Thats what I would do

[hemihead]

I'm going to say between 500-1000. If I had the cash, I'd get it

For a 71 R/T ? Lowball  offer . If anybody on this site owned it you can bet it would be much , much more .

[Drache]

But there's the dilema of what to do if/when I buy it.  I certainly do not have enough money to restore the car like it deserves to be.  Call me a bad guy if you will, but I'd like to make some money off of this for my Charger (need wiring, a tranny rebuild, and a rear end rebuild)  I'm just a 19 year old kid that happened to stumble upon the car.

buy it and turn it into a cool smoke house! 

[hemihead]

But there's the dilema of what to do if/when I buy it.  I certainly do not have enough money to restore the car like it deserves to be.  Call me a bad guy if you will, but I'd like to make some money off of this for my Charger (need wiring, a tranny rebuild, and a rear end rebuild)  I'm just a 19 year old kid that happened to stumble upon the car.

buy it and turn it into a cool smoke house! 

Get the Sawzall ready !

[Troy]

Where is he going to store it? And why? Unless he's got family that will let him leave "junk" in their garage it's gonna sit outside just like it is now for the foreseeable future. I'm one of those idiots who keeps buying cars to fix "some day" and my monthly storage bill is more than my rent. I had to put them all inside to keep stuff from being stolen and to keep the tire kickers at bay. When I was 19 there's no way I would have a place to keep a disabled car.

73ChargerSE: See if you can get it for a halfway decent price and flip it. You'll have a small fortune tied up in that car - whether you "restore" it or not.

Troy

[terrible one]

could you not just buy it and keep it/store it?

Thats what I would do

I wouldn't. Why rack up storage fees when the money could be going toward your current project? Being young and still not having many bills, I am barely getting my Charger together and would never think about taking on another car just to sit around, especially with the rest of college ahead, having to settle down after that, etc. I know it will be hard just to keep up with my one Charger. 73charger, I agree with your original idea of simply trying to get it low and flip it toward your current project. That's the attitude I have when looking and cars that I could get for cheap. 

[73ChargerSE]

OK well let's talk about market value.  Suppose I do get it for cheap.  What can I expect to get out of it.  I'm trying not to start fights or anything, and I don't want to be seen as a flipper.  I have the money for it, and it's not that much to be honest.  It doesn't have a rear end to it.  To make it roll I'd have to put a rear end in it (I have an 8 1/4 from my charger and there is also one where the car is.) and it would need front rotors.  What would be the best way to make money off of it?  Should I part it out to a certain extent (i.e. sell the tail lights separate etc)?  I could use a few things from the car (there's a rallye dash with a 150 speedo sitting in the back seat that I'd like for my car)  There's also some stuff in the trunk (column with a tuff wheel, the grip is rotten)  Again, I'm looking for money for my project and would like to get the most out of it without going too far.  I do have a place to store it, but I'm not sure I want to hold on to it.  I mean I'd like to, but it's just too much money for a kid to even touch something like that and do it right I think.  Plus I know where there's a more complete R/T, a green one (I like green cars) that I'm looking at.

I will post more pictures as soon as I find out the fate of the car (Dad still has to decide.)

[hemihead]

The value of the parts is worth more than the whole . Somebody would just come along and try to buy it cheap . Take the parts you need ( saves you money rather than paying someone else's inflated parts prices ) , Part it , and Sawzall. 

[mikesbbody]

well i didnt know you know of another, more complete RT, with that said maybe the best thing would be to buy then part out like suggested.
I know you'd have no problem selling the tailights (are you reading this 71beeman?)

[hemi-hampton]

I'd be interested in those Tailights for my car if you want to sell them? Let me know? LEON.

[73ChargerSE]

Well guys, hate to say it.






but I just put some money down on the car

Lady is going to be out of town for the next few weeks so I won't be able to pick the car up until then.  Here's some more pictures.  Just wanted to wait until I knew for sure what I was going to do.

[TruckDriver]

  If you plan to restore it, that one will need a lot of work for sure, good luck

[Goldfinger71]

Stay optimistic!



I say be optimistic becuase a number of R/T specific things are not there and finding those specific parts may cost ya!

But then again there are good deals on parts out there if you stay patient.......

[Charger1973]

Im glad youre going to pick it up.  Hopefully it will end up with someone who will restore it rather than part it and junk it. 71 RTs kick total a$$, id like to have one even if it wasnt all original, but I cant afford another project either.

[73ChargerSE]

For me, I don't need it whatsoever.  I bought it because it was a SMOKIN deal and I happen to have the money (just sold a '69 T-bird) I'm paying 1k for it.  I may have someone that's interested in the shell, but I'm not too sure.  If I can, I'd like to find another door so I can switch the R/T door out and be a little bit greedy in the process   Like Larry said, it's missing it's original R/T parts.  I do know where there is an R/T hood that I WAS going to buy a few years back, but the guy raised the price and I did not have the money.  I may look into going back and getting it, maybe to sell to the person that I sell the car to.  Don't get me wrong, I love Chargers, and I love this car, but I just can't do it when I've got another car needing quite a bit to get it back on the road again.  Like I said, I happened to stumble upon it.  If I had the time, money and parts, I'd keep it, but I have my priority.

[Death1970Proof]

I say take what you can use on your car, sell the rest (part out). Then sell the shell to a buyer that really wants it or has a couple '71's in terrible shape. I see no loss here, you get $$ to fix your '73,some parts to fix your '73 and somebody ends up with a '71 r/t charger! 

If I ran across a real good deal on something Id have to flip because I have to much going on now and cannot afford to be working on anything else. I often sell parts to complete what Im working on. Ive sold quite a bit off my '70 charger (original items) since the car wont be restored back to factory anyways because it's to far gone to put back original. The perfect car to modify and enjoy 

[Magnumcharger]

Don't loose hope.
Play the game, look for parts. Luckily, 1971 Charger parts aren't really all that scarce.
Find a donor vehicle and swap out the parts you need. The missing R/T door and a specific R/T hood are going to be your major stumbling blocks.
Keep checking the classifieds here on this forum, those at Moparts.com, and ebay.
I'll bet you can put this car together for under $5000.
Good luck.

[nakita7]

Save it at all costs, or sell it to someone who can/will....

[73ChargerSE]

Don't loose hope.
Play the game, look for parts. Luckily, 1971 Charger parts aren't really all that scarce.
Find a donor vehicle and swap out the parts you need. The missing R/T door and a specific R/T hood are going to be your major stumbling blocks.
Keep checking the classifieds here on this forum, those at Moparts.com, and ebay.
I'll bet you can put this car together for under $5000.
Good luck.

The problem is that I don't have 5k to spend.  I need to get a transmission rebuilt, buy new wiring, and rebuild a rear end for my car before I can think about anything. I don't want to just let it sit, someone that has more passion in it needs to own it.  Besides, the fact that I know of a complete R/T that may be for sale, sounds a little more appealing to me.

P.S. If you are interested in the tail lights, send me a PM and make me an offer.  I now have them in my possession.

[Goldfinger71]

You,have to be patient if you want to keep it.71 R/T specific parts don't grow on trees and when you find what you need the parts alot of times are a little pricey. Becuase most people know what they have and are trying to make as much cash as they can.

For example I have been looking for a drivers side R/T door forever becuase mine is heavily damaged in the gill area.It's very rare that you just find 1 door for sale.People like to sell in pairs a majority of the time which of course make sense.
I have seen R/T doors pop up for sale now and then but of course get ready to pay! Please don't ask me about the $1200.00 dollars I paid to a fellow board member here for my doors,only to find major structure damage in the louver area!Heck,even the door edge was damaged.The bondo job was so good you could not see the damage until it was stripped.It is salvageable but is taken ALOT of work which is costing even more money! Im better of just finding another door but im NOT going to spend $2000.00 on a pair of doors like the ones on Ebay now!

Good luck either way my friend,if you have patience it could be brought back to life!

[hemihead]

Keep what you can use . Sell the R/T stuff for big $$$ like everyone else . Fire up the sawzall and scrap the rest for a little more $$$ .

[twilt]

P.S. If you are interested in the tail lights, send me a PM and make me an offer.  I now have them in my possession.

Bout time to move this puppy to the parts for sale section?

Save it at all costs, or sell it to someone who can/will....

I agree 100%  Clean it up a little , bolt a few things back on, and flip it whole. Make yourself a couple grand and be happy.
PLEASE do not hack up a restorable R/T.

[TruckDriver]

Save it at all costs, or sell it to someone who can/will....

I agree 100%  Clean it up a little , bolt a few things back on, and flip it whole. Make yourself a couple grand and be happy.
PLEASE do not hack up a restorable R/T.

[73ChargerSE]

P.S. If you are interested in the tail lights, send me a PM and make me an offer.  I now have them in my possession.

Bout time to move this puppy to the parts for sale section?

I will probably post it there coming up shortly.

I have someone that may be interested in the car, hopefully. I believe I am going to separate it with the tail lights, find another 71 door for the passenger side, bolt up a rear end to it and try to make it a roller.  Sell the R/T door and tail lights, keep the 150 speedo for my car and MAYBE the console/shift linkage.  I think this would be the best way and the way I'd get the least clout.  I didn't want to cut it up, that'd just be nuts.  Anyone got a set of old rotors?

[twilt]

Well, it sounds to me that you are chasing the $$$ by separating the hardest to find parts from the car. Thats your business and I won`t be negative about it. On the other hand, I am sure glad that the guy I bought my 72 Rallye from, refused a VERY NICE offer to sell the Ramcharger hood off of it. He decided that (despite the $$ that could be gained) the hood should stay with the car and..... I thank him for that. 

[Magnumcharger]

I used to have a nice 1971 Charger R/T...Hemi Orange, white interior.
It was pretty well all there, louvered hood, doors, two sets of tailights.
I needed to sell it, and had LOTS of offers for the individual parts! But I wanted to see the car restored, and hung in there looking for the right buyer.
A fellow finally showed up, very enthusiastic about the car, told me it was the car of his dreams...etc, etc...so I sold it to him, at a break-even price.

He immediately parted it out....live and learn.

[hemihead]

I would be just like every single person on this forum and go for the $$$$ . Take every piece I didn't need , cut it up and sell it all for top dollar .
If one thing on this forum has taught me is people have noble thoughts of saving cars until a car is one that they have . Then it is all about how much $$$ they can pry out of your wallet for parts . Then all is ok to part out if they are making the money . So be just like all the other gold diggers and get all you can . They will do it to you . 

[twilt]

I would be just like every single person on this forum and go for the $$$$ . Take every piece I didn't need , cut it up and sell it all for top dollar .
If one thing on this forum has taught me is people have noble thoughts of saving cars until a car is one that they have . Then it is all about how much $$$ they can pry out of your wallet for parts . Then all is ok to part out if they are making the money . So be just like all the other gold diggers and get all you can . They will do it to you . 

  Geez what a transformation ole hemihead has undergone.  Not long  ago he was at one radical end of the spectrum, constantly whining about sellers greed, now he is at the opposite end.             "If you cant beat em...... join em"   
Hemi....... would you now also encourage that he sell the R/T VIN plate separately as well as all of the body stampings?

[hemihead]

If you can't beat'em , join'em  , right ?  I've learned from the best right here .

[73ChargerSE]

Anyone want to trade a set of tail lights for a bulge hood 

[Goldfinger71]

Don't forget me 73SE!..