Few color questions

[69bronzeT5]

Hey guys, I have a few questions. I'm looking for factory color stuff. When '69s with 440s came out of the factory, what colour was the master cylinder and power booster? What colour was the wiper motor? Thanks!

[Rolling_Thunder]

master and booster were gloss black

Wiper motor was natural finish with gold cad (3-speed wiper)
Wiper motor was gloss black (2 speed wiper)

[69bronzeT5]

Thanks!

[resq302]

Which master and booster are we talking about?  Bendix disc brake ones were gloss black (todays standards it appears semi gloss black).  If you got power drum brakes, it could have been a gold cad booster with natural master cyl.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Cody, use the search feature....you've been here long enough.

TONS of topics on this....

[69 OUR/TEA]

6,800 orig mile daytona survivor on ebay,bendix system,black booster,natural master cylinder.My  69 w/bendix,booster was black,master was natural,no traces of ever being black.Looked to be the orig to car as the car does not have high miles,and if not orig master ,it had to have been changed a long time ago as the bolts looked to not have been touched.

[resq302]

Pertaining to that original unrestored daytona, there are more things in the engine compartment that has been replaced than what he is saying.  The battery appears to be a repro as originals never came with that tag.  The master cyl if it was natural from the factory would be a hell of a lot more rusted than what it is now.  Just an observation.  I would also have to assume that the brake lines and fuel lines as well as the exhaust manifolds would be pretty rusty by now after 30+ years of exposure to air.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Pertaining to that original unrestored daytona, there are more things in the engine compartment that has been replaced than what he is saying.  The battery appears to be a repro as originals never came with that tag.  The master cyl if it was natural from the factory would be a hell of a lot more rusted than what it is now.  Just an observation.  I would also have to assume that the brake lines and fuel lines as well as the exhaust manifolds would be pretty rusty by now after 30+ years of exposure to air.

     Good observation on the battery,would'nt expect a 40 year old battery to still have, or be able to hold a charge.Even my repo battery did'nt last but a couple years.As far as the brake lines and fuel lines,my 22k mile coronets fuel lines and brake lines were fine,so I would expect a 7k mile car,obviously stored indoors to stay that nice,would have been even cleaner.You can tell the exhaust manifolds have some fading and start of oxidation on them,I beleive by the pics they could be never touched.The master cylinder,if stored indoors like it appears,how bad do you think it would rust being in some sort of dry controlled climate?The whole engine bay has the weathered look,little dirty in some spots,as it would for even 7k miles.Also,my 69's master cylinder,which I would go on a limb as to say I think very well could be the original,as you stated should be rusty,IS !If it was black at one point,it is 100 % all gone.The nice thing about  survivors is to be able to use them as a guide for reference.On another note,this year at Carlisle,go and check out the red survivor daytona WITHOUT organosol textured paint on the tail panel as expected to be.

[resq302]

I am not saying that Chrysler did not make mistakes but from what the majority of cars that have been found with power disc brakes, the booster, master cylinder and backing plate were painted as an assembly.  It is possible that from lack of movement, the bore of the master cylinder started rusting which caused a leak, hence the replacement of the master cylinder.  I wouldn't be suprised if the calipers were replaced also as they seemed to leak if they got any type of rust in the bores of the cylinders.

[bill440rt]

FWIW, the master cylinder on my '70 was natural as well (PDB car). Booster is gloss black, cover is gold cad.

The engine compartment was untouched, original back in the late '80's when I purchased the car. I have photos documenting this. The master cylinder showed no signs of ever being replaced, ditto for the lines.

I agree, MOST I've seen were completely painted black on PDB cars.

I ALSO agree, the search engine works great!!    Just one more notch for the post whore.

[69 OUR/TEA]

One more,my black 69's engine bay,both unpainted,but what raises a ? is the master cyl lines exiting to the fender well.Hemi master?or built this way as it looks like the lines were not mangled around to get at the other side.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Definitely a lot of mangling going on there Paul....the MC lines never crossed like that & both should be looped....I'd say that master was changed at some point....no worm clamps on the booster valve as well...