need help decoding fender tag on 71 Chally convert

[resq302]

I was wondering if someone on here can look at this fender tag and assist me with breaking down the tag and telling me if the fender tag is indeed a real one.  My parents are looking at buying a 71 Challenger Convertible with a 383 and auto with a console.  It is pretty much a bare bones Challenger but it is painted a high impact color of Sublime Green.  I have been able to break down some of the codes but the rest stump me.

Here is a pic of it.


Thanks for everyones help.

[resq302]

a pic of the car

[Charger-Bodie]

It has a '70 side stripe. 

[resq302]

Yes, that I was aware of as I do not believe they made any convertible R/T's in 71.  We are not that particular if it is an R/T or not.  My parents just would like to get either a 70 or 71 Challenger convert.  Engine sizes is not important to them.

[justin1987]

I tried to decode it the best I could, but some of the numbers and letters were hard to read. I hope this helps.

http://www.stockmopar.com/mopar-fender-tag-decoder.php?Code1=&Code2=&Code3=&Code4=&Code5=&Code6=&Code7=&Code8=&Code9=&Code10=&Code11=&Code12=J46&Code13=N95&Code14=P37&Code15=R11&Code16=V6X&Code17=EN2&Code18=V3X&Code19=u&Code20=C16&Code21=C55&Code22=g15&Code23=J45&Code24=GY3&Interior=H6X9&Code25=000&DateCode=824&OrderNum=022764&Code26=E61&Code27=d32&Vin1=JH27&Vin2=L18&Vin3=104731&vin=JH27L18104731&Submit=Decode

Code Description
E61 383-2 Barrel
032 Unknown At This Time
JH27 J = Dodge Challenger
H = High
27 = Convertible
L18 L = 383 275HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
1 = 1971
8 = Export
104731 Sequence Number '104731'
GY3 Paint Code: Citra Yella
H8X9 Trim Grade/Style/Color
H = High
8 = Vinyl 50/50 Split Bench Seat
X9 = Black
000 Upper Door Frame: Full Door Panel
824 Date Built: 8 / 24 / 1970
022764 Order Number: 022764
V3X Roof Type OR Color:  Black Convertible Top
H Unknown At This Time
C16 Console w/ Buckets
C55 Bucket Seats
C15 Special Sound Insulation Package 70s80
J45 Hood Tie Down Pins
J45 Hood Tie Down Pins
N95 Nox Exhaust Emission Control
P37 Power Convertible Top
R11 Music Master Radio AM
V6X Black Longitude Sports Stripe
EN2 End of Codes Assembly Line 2

[triple_green]

Fairly similiar to mine. 383-2 Canadian export car. Low options. This one has hood pins. Mine has fr disk brakes.

Just like mine. someone has taken the time to make this a 71 R/T clone. I'm pretty sure no R/T convertibles in 71.

Does it have the matching #'s engine? Mine was long gone when I got it.


3X

[hemigeno]

Lemme help out a little bit with this list (great start, justin)

I tried to decode it the best I could, but some of the numbers and letters were hard to read. I hope this helps.


Code Description
E61 383-2 Barrel
D32 = Automatic Transmission
JH27 J = Dodge Challenger
H = High
27 = Convertible
L1B L = 383 275HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
1 = 1971
B = Hamtramck (Dodge Main) Assembly Plant
104731 Sequence Number '104731'
GY3 Paint Code: Citron Yella
H6X9 Trim Grade/Style/Color
H = High
6 = Vinyl Bucket Seats
X9 = Black
000 Upper Door Frame: Full Door Panel
824 Date Built: 8 / 24 / 1970
022764 Order Number: 022764
V3X Roof Type OR Color:  Black Convertible Top
H Unknown At This Time  (That's a puzzler - maybe Doug/69CoronetRT or Barry Washington has some ideas on this??)
C16 Console w/ Buckets
C55 Bucket Seats
G15 Tinted Windshield Only
J45 Hood Tie Down Pins
J46 Locking Fuel Cap
N95 Nox Exhaust Emission Control
P37 Power Convertible Top
R11 Music Master Radio AM
V6X Black Longitude Sports Stripe
EN2 End of Codes Assembly Line 2

Nice car, Brian!

[41husk]

very nice!

[69CoronetRT]

Lemme help out a little bit with this list (great start, justin)

I tried to decode it the best I could, but some of the numbers and letters were hard to read. I hope this helps.


Code Description
E61 383-2 Barrel
D32 = Automatic Transmission
JH27 J = Dodge Challenger
H = High
27 = Convertible
L1B L = 383 275HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
1 = 1971
B = Hamtramck (Dodge Main) Assembly Plant
104731 Sequence Number '104731'
GY3 Paint Code: Citron Yella
H6X9 Trim Grade/Style/Color
H = High
6 = Vinyl Bucket Seats
X9 = Black
000 Upper Door Frame: Full Door Panel
824 Date Built: 8 / 24 / 1970
022764 Order Number: 022764
V3X Roof Type OR Color:  Black Convertible Top
H Unknown At This Time  (That's a puzzler - maybe Doug/69CoronetRT or Barry Washington has some ideas on this??)
C16 Console w/ Buckets
C55 Bucket Seats
G15 Tinted Windshield Only
J45 Hood Tie Down Pins
J46 Locking Fuel Cap
N95 Nox Exhaust Emission Control
P37 Power Convertible Top
R11 Music Master Radio AM
V6X Black Longitude Sports Stripe
EN2 End of Codes Assembly Line 2

Nice car, Brian!

It looked like an "H" at first to me too due to the flash reflection but if you look very closely, you can see that it is a "U" meaning built for US sale. This also jives with the VON number format.

I'm not as familiar with the 71 Hamtramck tags as Barry probably is. I would get in touch with him directly to ask if the tag is remade.

[69CoronetRT]

Oh and yes...great looking car. 

[resq302]

Thanks everyone.  It is not our car yet.  The car is looking to be purchased by my parents for my mom.  Dad has the el camino, I have the Charger, and mom's first car was a 70 Chally hard top.  She now wants a convert.  That H is definetly an H, not a U.  When we were trying to decode it, I copied it to the Paint program and inverted the colors and it stood out as an H there.  The engine is not a numbers matching engine and it currently has a 4 bbl carb on it.  The car has had a ground up resto about 5 years ago according to the dealership.

Was Citron Yellow the same as Sublime?  Only reason why I ask is that the dealership is calling it Sublime Green.

[resq302]

Also, would anyone have a break down of how many cars came with the 383-2 and the Y3 Citron Yellow?

Just wondering if this is a rare car?

[41husk]

Just being a vert makews it rare!!!

[69CoronetRT]

Was Citron Yellow the same as Sublime?  Only reason why I ask is that the dealership is calling it Sublime Green.

No. Citron Yella was a very bright yellow. Sublime is a green. My friend's Dart is supposed to be GY1

[resq302]

Ok, next question.... is anyone on here who lives out near Holland, Michigan that knows 71 Chally verts and what to look for that is typically wrong on them that could help us out and go check it out for us?  If so, please PM me.

Thanks,

Brian

[resq302]

I saw on the Dodgeforums.com site that someone had a break down of the 71 Challengers.  I tried to register but for some reason, I am not getting the email confirmation so I can sign in.  Does anyone know where I could get this breakdown of production numbers or could someone contact TeeWJay426 from that board and see if he can help me out with production number breakdowns?

Thanks,

Brian

[triple_green]

If it was an export, how would it be designated on the tag?

[69CoronetRT]

If it was an export, how would it be designated on the tag?

An "I" would replace the "U" and the Vehicle Order Number (VON) would start with an "E".

[triple_green]

Look what happens when I run my 71 vert from Canada thru the decoder versus the car we are discussing....

Code   Description
JH27   J = Dodge Challenger
H = High
27 = Convertible


L18   L = 383 275HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
1 = 1971
8 = Export
XXXXXX   Sequence Number 'XXXXXX'
C   Built For Canada Specs
(MY Car)




Code   Description
JH27   J = Dodge Challenger
H = High
27 = Convertible


L18   L = 383 275HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
1 = 1971
8 = Export
XXXXXX   Sequence Number 'XXXXXX'
H   Unknown At This Time
(Your car)

[hemigeno]

I think a big mistake being made here is that the VIN reads L1B and not L18.  I have never seen or heard of a numeral in the assembly plant designator for 68-71 cars.  The B represents Hamtramck, where all Chally 'verts were produced in 71.  Nothing can be inferred from the VIN about any car's status as an export vehicle.

The S.O. number, as Doug alluded to, will give some clues - but the VIN never does.  I think the car Brian is looking at is "just" a California car (evidenced by the N95, as he's already discovered).  Not a bad find, no matter what.

I'm still not sure about the "H" or any other character in a similar location on that second line though...

[triple_green]

Geno you are right...my tag is a B not an 8. Here is the decode...

Code Description
JS27 J = Dodge Challenger
S = Special
27 = Convertible
L1B L = 383 275HP 1-2BBL 8 CYL
1 = 1971
B = Dodge Main, Hamtramck, MI, USA
XXXXXX Sequence Number 'XXXXXX'
C Built For Canada Specs

[triple_green]

More data on the single alpha code:

U means the car is built to USA specs. On '71 and later cars, this space will have one of three possible codes: U, USA specs.; C, Canadian specs; I, built for International export.

From: maxwedge.com

[Belgium R/T -68]

Ok, next question.... is anyone on here who lives out near Holland, Michigan that knows 71 Chally verts and what to look for that is typically wrong on them that could help us out and go check it out for us?  If so, please PM me.

Thanks,

Brian

Brian, could you PM me the name of the dealer? Have bad experience with one there. // Per

[resq302]

Ok, I just got word for my dad that he called the dealership to find out what the actual codes were on the fender tag so that should clear stuff up.  However, his cell phone died in the process of him giving me the codes.....so the mystery continues for a little while til my dad gets home from work.  

Also, the dealership told dad that the car currently has a FL title and seems to have all original sheet metal on it per a body shop that does their work.

Geno,

The know Vance pretty well and have said that Vance has done some work for them for their shop.  So I am guessing that this dealership is pretty good and not some get rich quick stealerships.

[resq302]

here is an inverted color picture of the fender tag still looking like an H to me.  Maybe it was a typo?  1 of 1?