The NASCAR Thread

[dyslexic teddybear]

Seems logical to me......that many things factor into "following " a driver. Of course the drivers behavior on and off the track is likely the most important, car brand/team owner/crew chief etc. will be part of it. [for me, car brand is huge, I'm a Mopar guy]

I am not a fan of anything Hendrick. Thus, not a fan of anyone driving Hendrick equipment. I do NOT cheer when they crash/blow up......so I do not believe I'm a hater. But I am not gonna cheer either.

Would agree one of the factors of Dodge leaving was Nascars promoting the driver over the brand. Also logically, that is a factor in Nascars decline.....IROC style cookie cutter cars/drivers/tracks[1-1/2 mile].....making things worse. Lotta empty seats showing in the stands....

[thedodgeboys]

Am I the only one happy about the decline in attendance?

let me explain; it has created lower ticket prices for better seats less congestion less fans or people that are here just for the party.


And best of all less #3 and Jr. Fans 

It was just more enjoyable when less people were around. 

[nvrbdn]

i agree that it can be nicer with less traffic, smaller crowds, less jr fans.

    now, as far as rooting for the drivers vs. owners.  i was first for mopar, second i was ryan newman.

     then i had a few drivers id root for over the ones i cant stand.

now for the dislike of hendrick motor sports.  its not a thing where i pick one owner over another, i just hate the whiny cry baby cheating attitude from that camp. and i know, someone will say they all cheat, or at least try to.
  well the big difference is, when the others get caught, they pay the price. they lose the points. they take their punishment.     when hendrick gets caught, they blame nascar, or say that everyone else is doing it, or rick goes behind closed doors and threatens nascar. then a report comes out that the penalty's have been dropped because it must have been an accident and they wont do it again.
                    just my feelings

[A383Wing]

yea...what he said

[RedChargerRob]

Since no mo' Mopar, I root for ABT.   (Anybody But Toyota)

[dyslexic teddybear]

now for the dislike of hendrick motor sports.  its not a thing where i pick one owner over another, i just hate the whiny cry baby cheating attitude from that camp. and i know, someone will say they all cheat, or at least try to.
  well the big difference is, when the others get caught, they pay the price. they lose the points. they take their punishment.     when hendrick gets caught, they blame nascar, or say that everyone else is doing it, or rick goes behind closed doors and threatens nascar. then a report comes out that the penalty's have been dropped because it must have been an accident and they wont do it again.
                    just my feelings

That's putting it better then I could. 

[Budnicks]

i agree that it can be nicer with less traffic, smaller crowds, less jr fans.

    now, as far as rooting for the drivers vs. owners.  i was first for mopar, second i was ryan newman.

     then i had a few drivers id root for over the ones i cant stand.

now for the dislike of hendrick motor sports.  its not a thing where i pick one owner over another, i just hate the whiny cry baby cheating attitude from that camp. and i know, someone will say they all cheat, or at least try to.
  well the big difference is, when the others get caught, they pay the price. they lose the points. they take their punishment.     when hendrick gets caught, they blame nascar, or say that everyone else is doing it, or rick goes behind closed doors and threatens nascar. then a report comes out that the penalty's have been dropped because it must have been an accident and they wont do it again.
                    just my feelings

well said, same thing with Dale Sr., he could get away with anything, NASCAR looked the otherway

[JB400]

  To Hamlin.  He has decided not to appeal his fine, and still refuses to pay.  Nascar said they will take it out of his winnings this weekend

[moparstuart]

i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
  gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll

[JB400]

i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
  gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll

I think Hamlin's in full control of the situation.  If this was Busch in this situation, then I might understand and agree with you.  This is an example of Nascar out of control.  Brian France and Mike Helton need a boot up thier rear for giving Hamlin this penalty.

[chargerboy69]

i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
  gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll

I think Hamlin's in full control of the situation.  If this was Busch in this situation, then I might understand and agree with you.  This is an example of Nascar out of control.  Brian France and Mike Helton need a boot up thier rear for giving Hamlin this penalty.

While I can not stand Hamlin, I also agree the fine was un called for. I have heard far worse coming from other drivers bad mouthing NASCAR (Tony Stewart), and NASCAR did nothing.

[thedodgeboys]

i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
  gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll

I think Hamlin's in full control of the situation.  If this was Busch in this situation, then I might understand and agree with you.  This is an example of Nascar out of control.  Brian France and Mike Helton need a boot up thier rear for giving Hamlin this penalty.

While I can not stand Hamlin, I also agree the fine was un called for. I have heard far worse coming from other drivers bad mouthing NASCAR (Tony Stewart), and NASCAR did nothing.

Dumb fine however na$car did warn all the drivers not to be negative about the new car over the winter.
Regardless of the outcome of the 11 cars fine the message is now clear we won't be hearing anything negative about the new car anymore.

[JB400]

Gordon done a number on his and Kenseth's cars   Blown tire is the culprit.  Should have got 4 on that last pitstop

[nvrbdn]

got home late, what happened to tony???  kenseth was fast. too bad for him.

[JB400]

Stewart had a flat tire and backed it into the wall.

[nvrbdn]

ah, ok.

[JB400]

I know quite a few guys don't like Hendrick cars, but I'm glad Kayne won.  And with Johnson and Gordon putting it in the wall, made for an even sweeter day


Well, my roster done good today

A little dispute between Logano and Hamlin

[TruckDriver]

Just happy Johnson crashed too 

[A383Wing]

I'm probably never gonna get used to Matt being in the 20 car

Bryan

[nvrbdn]

i know, it just doesnt look right.

[400/6/PAC]

Gordon done a number on his and Kenseth's cars   Blown tire is the culprit.  Should have got 4 on that last pitstop

Yeah, Too bad about Kenseth, He was running fast.

[Budnicks]

i hope they doc owner points and fine him also
  gibbs needs to get this a hole under controll

I think Hamlin's in full control of the situation.  If this was Busch in this situation, then I might understand and agree with you.  This is an example of Nascar out of control.  Brian France and Mike Helton need a boot up thier rear for giving Hamlin this penalty.

While I can not stand Hamlin, I also agree the fine was un called for. I have heard far worse coming from other drivers bad mouthing NASCAR (Tony Stewart), and NASCAR did nothing.

Dumb fine however na$car did warn all the drivers not to be negative about the new car over the winter.
Regardless of the outcome of the 11 cars fine the message is now clear we won't be hearing anything negative about the new car anymore.

or either Earnhart Sr./Jr. repeatedly, especiallty Dale Sr. when he didn't like something..

[Budnicks]

A little dispute between Logano and Hamlin

I would just call it Hamlin wrecking #22 Logano   , Hamlin said "he ment to hit him, but didn't mean to spin him", yeah right...LOL....

[JB400]

From the way they're talking, sounds like Logano is already plotting revenge  I bet Hamlin wins this dispute. and Logano comes away 

[JB400]

What a finish!!!!!!!!!  Congrats to Kyle Busch  Hope Hamlin is ok.  He took a hard lick battling Logano for the lead. 



Fight between Logano and Stewart  Logano isn't making friends this year