The NASCAR Thread

[Chargen69]

  Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

  Danica
     Never won a points race in IRL
     Never won a points race in Nation wide
     But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
     Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

       but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
           dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
           
      but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor   

how she got there really isnt a conspiracy. if anybody has a lock on a full-time sponsor they are in...  case in point Paul meanard

[JB400]

Let see, she is the lightest driver out there, and she has Hendrick power under the hood  She also won the pole at Daytona last year in Nationwide series.  Also, all she had to do was hold the steering wheel straight. Add in a crew chief that knows what he is doing. Sounds like a recipe for a fast car at Daytona.  Take away the  makeup and the cell phone, she can easily get the job done.  The real test is how well she can survive the duels and the 500.

[Ponch ®]

We should have a friendly/unofficial pool....

Whoever guesses to the closest lap in which she's going to crash in the Five Hundy wins...absolutely nothing.

If there's a "tie" (ie, one guy guesses that she crashes at 55, another at 53, and she crashes at 54), the guy that doesn't go over wins.

I'll go first. I say she crashes right around lap 60.

[JB400]

I say she wrecks in the duel a quarter of the way through.  I will watch Thursday, then make a more accurate prediction for Sunday. Lap 53 in the duel. I almost feel ashamed of myself for participating

I will say that Jr. will crash out either in the first 50 or the last 50 of the 500.  JJ is almost certain to wreck sometime. He's a little less predictable as far as a timeline.

Speaking of wrecks, what's Montoya's target this year, the pace car, fire truck, ambulance, or the new track blower?

[odcics2]

Speaking of wrecks, what's Montoya's target this year, the pace car, fire truck, ambulance, or the new track blower?

Danica!! 

[odcics2]

  Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

  Danica
     Never won a points race in IRL
     Never won a points race in Nation wide
     But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
     Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

       but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
           dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
           
      but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor   

how she got there really isnt a conspiracy. if anybody has a lock on a full-time sponsor they are in...  case in point Paul meanard

Her getting the shaft, er , I mean pole, certainly got folks talking about nascar...    Who's to say the car was 100% legal?   A back door deal perhaps??

[thedodgeboys]

  Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

  Danica
     Never won a points race in IRL
     Never won a points race in Nation wide
     But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
     Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

       but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
           dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
           
      but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor   

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. 

[General_01]

  Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

  Danica
     Never won a points race in IRL
     Never won a points race in Nation wide
     But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
     Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

       but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
           dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
           
      but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor   

I don't think so in this case. Stewart and Newman were both up there in the top 5, so it isn't out of the question for her car to be fast. Now if Stewart and Newman were 15th or farther back, then you might have been onto something Stuart.

[General_01]

We should have a friendly/unofficial pool....

Whoever guesses to the closest lap in which she's going to crash in the Five Hundy wins...absolutely nothing.

If there's a "tie" (ie, one guy guesses that she crashes at 55, another at 53, and she crashes at 54), the guy that doesn't go over wins.

I'll go first. I say she crashes right around lap 60.

To be honest, I don't think her driving is that bad. I saw a lot of the wannabe's (Cole Witt comes to mind) running into her more than anything. I also like how some people think she is such a b%^tch when she gets pissed about it, but if one of the other drivers says the same thing he has every right to be pissed.

As stated above, there are drivers who did not do well in Nationwide(Busch) that faired well in Cup as well as drivers who did very well in Nationwide(Busch) who did not do well in Cup (Jeff Green, David Green, Randy LaJoie).

[Chargen69]

She is starting out better than most.  There is plenty of drivers in Cup that when they started they didnt have talent God gave a box of rocks  (paul meanard comes to mind)

[moparstuart]

  Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

  Danica
     Never won a points race in IRL
     Never won a points race in Nation wide
     But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
     Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

       but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
           dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
           
      but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor   

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars. 

japan race was not a points race  hence I STATED POINTS RACE

[JB400]

I think she's getting better equipment from Hendrick/Stewart than what she got from Andretti.  As far as I know, she only survived one restrictor plate race.  Thursday will be her test, unless the crew cheif tells her to lag at the back of the field.

[thedodgeboys]

 Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

 Danica
    Never won a points race in IRL
    Never won a points race in Nation wide
    But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
    Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

      but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
          dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
         
     but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor  

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars.  

japan race was not a points race  hence I STATED POINTS RACE

Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.

Career Stats
Year   Starts   Wins   Top 5   Top 10   Top 15   Top 20   DNF   Avg. Start   Avg. Finish   Laps Led   Total Laps   Earnings
2011   17   0   1   9   11   14   0   18.6   12.4   13 (.62%)   2093   $321,745
2010   17   0   3   8   12   16   0   16.1   11.4   1 (.04%)   2408   $307,305
2009   17   0   5   10   13   17   1   10.2   9.6   26 (.96%)   2699   $763,305
2008   17   1   3   10   13   16   2   10.1   10.6   4 (.14%)   2779   $301,915
2007   17   0   4   11   16   17   3   8.9   8.2   17 (.63%)   2709   $1,182,055
2006   14   0   2   8   12   14   2   13.1   9.9   0 (.00%)   2299   $923,005
2005   17   0   2   7   11   17   5   7.8   12.5   63 (2.21%)   2850   $1,037,655

[Ponch ®]

 Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

 Danica
    Never won a points race in IRL
    Never won a points race in Nation wide
    But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
    Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

      but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
          dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
         
     but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor  

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars.  

japan race was not a points race  hence I STATED POINTS RACE

Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.

Career Stats
Year   Starts   Wins   Top 5   Top 10   Top 15   Top 20   DNF   Avg. Start   Avg. Finish   Laps Led   Total Laps   Earnings
2011   17   0   1   9   11   14   0   18.6   12.4   13 (.62%)   2093   $321,745
2010   17   0   3   8   12   16   0   16.1   11.4   1 (.04%)   2408   $307,305
2009   17   0   5   10   13   17   1   10.2   9.6   26 (.96%)   2699   $763,305
2008   17   1   3   10   13   16   2   10.1   10.6   4 (.14%)   2779   $301,915
2007   17   0   4   11   16   17   3   8.9   8.2   17 (.63%)   2709   $1,182,055
2006   14   0   2   8   12   14   2   13.1   9.9   0 (.00%)   2299   $923,005
2005   17   0   2   7   11   17   5   7.8   12.5   63 (2.21%)   2850   $1,037,655

she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.

[moparstuart]

 Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

 Danica
    Never won a points race in IRL
    Never won a points race in Nation wide
    But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
    Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

      but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
          dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
         
     but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor  

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars.  

japan race was not a points race  hence I STATED POINTS RACE

Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.

Career Stats
Year   Starts   Wins   Top 5   Top 10   Top 15   Top 20   DNF   Avg. Start   Avg. Finish   Laps Led   Total Laps   Earnings
2011   17   0   1   9   11   14   0   18.6   12.4   13 (.62%)   2093   $321,745
2010   17   0   3   8   12   16   0   16.1   11.4   1 (.04%)   2408   $307,305
2009   17   0   5   10   13   17   1   10.2   9.6   26 (.96%)   2699   $763,305
2008   17   1   3   10   13   16   2   10.1   10.6   4 (.14%)   2779   $301,915
2007   17   0   4   11   16   17   3   8.9   8.2   17 (.63%)   2709   $1,182,055
2006   14   0   2   8   12   14   2   13.1   9.9   0 (.00%)   2299   $923,005
2005   17   0   2   7   11   17   5   7.8   12.5   63 (2.21%)   2850   $1,037,655

she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.

she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke

[JB400]

A win is a win, no matter how you get them.

[thedodgeboys]

 Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

 Danica
    Never won a points race in IRL
    Never won a points race in Nation wide
    But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
    Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

      but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
          dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
         
     but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor  

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars.  

japan race was not a points race  hence I STATED POINTS RACE

Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.

Career Stats
Year   Starts   Wins   Top 5   Top 10   Top 15   Top 20   DNF   Avg. Start   Avg. Finish   Laps Led   Total Laps   Earnings
2011   17   0   1   9   11   14   0   18.6   12.4   13 (.62%)   2093   $321,745
2010   17   0   3   8   12   16   0   16.1   11.4   1 (.04%)   2408   $307,305
2009   17   0   5   10   13   17   1   10.2   9.6   26 (.96%)   2699   $763,305
2008   17   1   3   10   13   16   2   10.1   10.6   4 (.14%)   2779   $301,915
2007   17   0   4   11   16   17   3   8.9   8.2   17 (.63%)   2709   $1,182,055
2006   14   0   2   8   12   14   2   13.1   9.9   0 (.00%)   2299   $923,005
2005   17   0   2   7   11   17   5   7.8   12.5   63 (2.21%)   2850   $1,037,655

she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.

she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke

You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy           

[Aero426]

I think she's getting better equipment from Hendrick/Stewart than what she got from Andretti. 

I suppose her equipment at Rahal Letterman sucked too? 

In 13 seasons of racing, she has ONE win, that she achieved on fuel mileage.     

She'll be 22nd in points at the end of this year, if she's lucky.   

[Aero426]

A win is a win, no matter how you get them.

Yes.  Ask Derrike Cope. 

[moparstuart]

 Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

 Danica
    Never won a points race in IRL
    Never won a points race in Nation wide
    But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
    Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

      but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
          dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
         
     but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor  

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars.  

japan race was not a points race  hence I STATED POINTS RACE

Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.

Career Stats
Year   Starts   Wins   Top 5   Top 10   Top 15   Top 20   DNF   Avg. Start   Avg. Finish   Laps Led   Total Laps   Earnings
2011   17   0   1   9   11   14   0   18.6   12.4   13 (.62%)   2093   $321,745
2010   17   0   3   8   12   16   0   16.1   11.4   1 (.04%)   2408   $307,305
2009   17   0   5   10   13   17   1   10.2   9.6   26 (.96%)   2699   $763,305
2008   17   1   3   10   13   16   2   10.1   10.6   4 (.14%)   2779   $301,915
2007   17   0   4   11   16   17   3   8.9   8.2   17 (.63%)   2709   $1,182,055
2006   14   0   2   8   12   14   2   13.1   9.9   0 (.00%)   2299   $923,005
2005   17   0   2   7   11   17   5   7.8   12.5   63 (2.21%)   2850   $1,037,655

she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.

she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke

You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy           

sorry IMHO she doesnt deserve to be there and she will cause wrecks , but if you like to watch her more power too you
i wont be watch much nascar without a dodge to root for anyway .

[JB400]

Considering her Nationwide results,  I doubt that  she will make the Chase, but she finished in the Top 10 in points, and had 4 top 10's.  She had finishes worse than 25th 9 times.  The rest of the time, she run in the top 20 just outside of the Top 10.  That was her first full time season.  I say she will finish Top 18 in points this year.  Maybe 3 Top 10's.  Sprint Cup guys are tougher to run with, but not that tuff.

http://espn.go.com/racing/driver/raceresults/_/id/697/series/3/year/2012/danica-patrick

Speaking of women in Nascar, has anybody heard of this gal?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nascar--female-in-the-pits--christmas-abbott-is-set-to-enter-where-few-women-have-before-170207111.html

[thedodgeboys]

I think she's getting better equipment from Hendrick/Stewart than what she got from Andretti.  As far as I know, she only survived one restrictor plate race.  Thursday will be her test, unless the crew cheif tells her to lag at the back of the field.

I know she will be in better stuff than she had over at jr's in the nationwide series. Thats why Jr fired his family last year. They gave her junk to drive.

The drivers in cup may show her a little more respect then the back markers in the nationwide series did, I think a lot of her crashes were from people hitting her because they don't like women drivers. The closer to the front she gets the better she will do.

And with Dodge out for a long time why not root for the other underdog in the 10 car? 

[moparstuart]

 Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

 Danica
    Never won a points race in IRL
    Never won a points race in Nation wide
    But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
    Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

      but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
          dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
         
     but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor  

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars.  

japan race was not a points race  hence I STATED POINTS RACE

Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.

Career Stats
Year   Starts   Wins   Top 5   Top 10   Top 15   Top 20   DNF   Avg. Start   Avg. Finish   Laps Led   Total Laps   Earnings
2011   17   0   1   9   11   14   0   18.6   12.4   13 (.62%)   2093   $321,745
2010   17   0   3   8   12   16   0   16.1   11.4   1 (.04%)   2408   $307,305
2009   17   0   5   10   13   17   1   10.2   9.6   26 (.96%)   2699   $763,305
2008   17   1   3   10   13   16   2   10.1   10.6   4 (.14%)   2779   $301,915
2007   17   0   4   11   16   17   3   8.9   8.2   17 (.63%)   2709   $1,182,055
2006   14   0   2   8   12   14   2   13.1   9.9   0 (.00%)   2299   $923,005
2005   17   0   2   7   11   17   5   7.8   12.5   63 (2.21%)   2850   $1,037,655

she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.

she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke

You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy          

Oh and stop mother F ing me  it wasnt a real points race check wikipedia     so there i dont just spout off usless info  I remember it just not perfectly .  

   
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   Indy Japan 300 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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   The Indy Japan 300 presented by Bridgestone was an Indy Racing League IndyCar Series ... The 2008 race marked the historic first ever win for a woman driver in ... was held as an exhibition race, and no championship points were awarded.     Because of Open-Wheel Reunification in 2008, the 2008 Indy Japan 300 race was a half-field race. "Transitioning" teams at Long Beach raced for full IRL points despite using the former Champ Car codes.

[odcics2]

It's on the internet - gotta be real! 

(Except when it says the #6 Daytona ran laps over 200....   )

[thedodgeboys]

 Ok im not a conspiracy guy but the fix must have been in for ratings

 Danica
    Never won a points race in IRL
    Never won a points race in Nation wide
    But she keeps moving up in the Ranks to the big series ?
    Woman have never ever been on the pole for a Nascar Race

      but she wins the pole for the  THE BIGGEST RACE OF THE YEAR
          dont get me wrong I know she will cause a huge wreck and not finish the race ,
         
     but I sure would like to take a look inside that motor  

She won an IRL Race in Japan 2 or 3 years back. Stewart sucked in Nationwide before he moved up to cup.
Stuart I think you just don't like green cars.  

japan race was not a points race  hence I STATED POINTS RACE

Look it up before you speek out of turn woman hater. The Japan race was a regular points race.

Career Stats
Year   Starts   Wins   Top 5   Top 10   Top 15   Top 20   DNF   Avg. Start   Avg. Finish   Laps Led   Total Laps   Earnings
2011   17   0   1   9   11   14   0   18.6   12.4   13 (.62%)   2093   $321,745
2010   17   0   3   8   12   16   0   16.1   11.4   1 (.04%)   2408   $307,305
2009   17   0   5   10   13   17   1   10.2   9.6   26 (.96%)   2699   $763,305
2008   17   1   3   10   13   16   2   10.1   10.6   4 (.14%)   2779   $301,915
2007   17   0   4   11   16   17   3   8.9   8.2   17 (.63%)   2709   $1,182,055
2006   14   0   2   8   12   14   2   13.1   9.9   0 (.00%)   2299   $923,005
2005   17   0   2   7   11   17   5   7.8   12.5   63 (2.21%)   2850   $1,037,655

she won it on gas mileage. Yeah. I know, its still a win. But thats often more on the strategy by the crew chief, etc.

she was actually suppost to pit , she missed the pit enterance and thus they decided to stay out and won on a fluke

You expect me to believe that? You didn't even know it was a points race, go back to grave yard cars Stuart ol buddy          

Oh and stop mother F ing me  it wasnt a real points race check wikipedia     so there i dont just spout off usless info  I remember it just not perfectly .  

   
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   The Indy Japan 300 presented by Bridgestone was an Indy Racing League IndyCar Series ... The 2008 race marked the historic first ever win for a woman driver in ... was held as an exhibition race, and no championship points were awarded.     Because of Open-Wheel Reunification in 2008, the 2008 Indy Japan 300 race was a half-field race. "Transitioning" teams at Long Beach raced for full IRL points despite using the former Champ Car codes.

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Stuart and I'm not M Fing you        Woman Hater 

this explains the short field...
An unresolvable scheduling conflict occurred between Motegi and Long Beach. Existing IndyCar teams competed in the Indy Japan 300, while some of the former Champ Car teams raced at Long Beach using their 2007 Panoz DP01 chassis. Both races counted toward the 2008 title.                     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_IndyCar_Series_season    none points race my ass...

Check this out also  http://indymotorspeedway.com/08irlsch.html